Posted on 02/19/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
What Is Science?
"Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic."
—Dr. Scott Todd, Kansas State University, Nature 401(6752):423, Sept. 30, 1999
What You Will Learn
Many people do not realize that science was actually developed in Christian Europe by men who assumed that God created an orderly universe. If the universe is a product of random chance or a group of gods that interfere in the universe, there is really no reason to expect order in nature. Many of the founders of the principle scientific fields, such as Bacon, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton, were believers in a recently created earth. The idea that science cannot accept a creationist perspective is a denial of scientific history...
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You’ve failed in your definition of the word “church”. But I guess it’s correct in its connotation so I’ll let it stand. It was the prevailing position of the Catholic Church and then the churches that were spawned by the Catholic church. The Baptists and others like them never sought to have coercive power and refused it when it was offered.
As for creationists’ lack of tolerance. HA!! We just want equal time for our money. You force us to pay for teaching we find ridiculous so we try to get an alternative taught, since we’re paying for the classrooms. We even offer to have it taught at our expense. We get pushed out of the classrooms by government orders and told our position isn’t science while the evidence that our position is indeed science isn’t allowed to be heard. Then when we defend our position we’re told we’re intolerant.
A-freaking-mazing!!
Evolution has heliocentrism in it? Okayyyyy.
Read my next post to you...
So are you denying that the Christian church(es) at that time and earlier believed that the earth was the center of everything and based that belief on the Bible?
The Pope has never cared much about what the Bible says. People who read their bibles have always known the earth was round. I don’t know about the earth being the center of the Universe. Obviously God pays particular attention to it.
I’ll answer my question for you:
Yes, at the time Christians believed that the earth was at the center of creation. They based that belief on the literal reading of the Bible. Today, scientific evidence reveals conclusively that the earth holds no such place of honor.
The point is that a biblically-generated position on a scientific question has been changed over time by the incontrovertible evidence peoduced by science. The positions that you hold today regarding opposition to evolution, for example, will vanish in a similar way.
And the Pope cares deeply about the Bible.
What aspect of Christianity does evolution conflict with?
Well let’s see,
Creation of Adam and Eve and what their sin produced, death through inherited imperfection and sin. The need for a ransomer as in Christ. That’s enough for now.
I asked what aspect of Christianity does evolution conflict with, and you responded with Bible references.
The good news is that you’re out of matches.
When all else fails, accuse the creationists of wanting to burn scientists at the stake.
Oh, give it up already.....
And grow up.
Sources?
Or are we just to take your word for it as fact?
All? Sources? Or are we to just take your word for it as fact?
In 2009, creationists demonstrate the same intolerance but lack the power of enforcement.
Sources? Or are we to just take your word for it as fact?
You're pretty liberal with the blanket statements. Want to back them up sometime? Or just stereotype everyone?
It’s fact. You have a desired end state, and then fudge evidence (like that silly cowboy boot!) to fit. Science postulates, tests, and accepts or rejects based on findings.
Tell me—is there any evidence that you would accept that would cast doubt on your literal belief in scripture?
The teachings of the Bible certainly are aspects of Christianity unless you've another definition of the word “aspect”.
Are you seriously challenging that the church held a geocentric belief 500+ years ago? Seriously?
Exactly.
It's the Christian curriculum that teaches BOTH evolution and creation in the science texts, something the evoatheist liberals won't allow for public schools and everyone else's kids who go there.
They aren't just satisfied with opting their kids out of the creation section of origins in schools, they have to sue the schools into submission to have evolution only taught.
So much for tolerance.
Science is based upon the systematic gathering of data on measurable and replicable natural phenomena, and attempts to explain and predict these data by appeal to measurable and replicable natural causes in the formation of a scientific hypothesis.
If the evidence supports the hypothesis, and your hypothesis is found to be USEFUL in predicting and explaining natural phenomena, then it may one day be regarded as a theory.
A theory is the highest rank of scientific explanation, making the construction “just a theory” the domain of tools and fools.
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