"I think I'll have the Spinach Salad with Bleu Cheese crumbles, thank you."
Posted on 02/20/2009 8:19:51 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
The carnivorous nature and suffering of animals
by Robert J. M. Gurney
All evolutionists and virtually all old-earth creationists believe that animals were killing and eating one another for millions of years, long before the Fall of man. Young-earth creationists argue that this is incompatible with Scripture. Old-earthers dispute the young-earthers’ interpretation of Scripture and employ at least two other counterarguments. One is that carnivorous behaviour is actually very good, and the other is that animals in the wild do not suffer. There is very good reason to believe that they do suffer; but even if they do not, carnivorous activity before the Fall remains incompatible with Scripture...
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Um, my comment was meant as ridicule. Don’t take it seriously as I don’t intend to enter into any sort of discussion relating to this ridiculous topic.
"I think I'll have the Spinach Salad with Bleu Cheese crumbles, thank you."
Thanks for the ping!
Also note, death, we are told, entered when Adam fell. Obviously this did not happen in the evolutionist view of things, where things were dying by the billions long before Adam came into being.
Thus, evolutionary thought lifts the curse! And without a curse, who needs a Savior?
Please note human next to dino footprints at the Paluxy River Bed.
"Hold the roast duck, just bring me the mango salsa..."
I spent many hours of my life wading through that stream of consciousness called Moby Dick. With only 3 chapters left, I put it down saying, “there’s nothing that could happen in three chapters that would make reading any further worth my while.”
“raised from the dead.”
That’s certainly isn’t science. It must be allegory.
about 2 years ago I read an article “Death to the Commentaries”, or was it ‘Commentators’? Consider it.
Commentaries have indeed created many confusing doctrines; and false ideas have entered into the understanding of the Scriptures.
Read and study the scriptures for yourself; and the Holy Spirit will teach you.
The church has changed during my lifetime; and when it is considered the times since Jesus walked on earth ... the changes have been many. We know that for sure from history itself. It is almost as if we believe the commentators/commentaries more than the scriptures.
Do not be mislead.
“If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God; and he that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; it shall be given to him.” James 1:5
We were born for Jesus to heal us.
So you just came into the thread to inform us how silly we all are? So essentially, you’re above all this and proclaiming this is equal to that, not allowing or accepting that this is not equal to that.
Think of me as the peanut gallery. Knock yourself out talking about it. It’s irrelevant to me but if it’s important to you don’t mind me. I’ll just watch.
These people need to go get a job. In this day and age, aren’t there more serious things to worry about.
Wow! I thought I was a pretty big jerk but you get the prize. You’re probably one of the few Freepers, whom I have contentious disagreement, who I’d actually dislike if I met face to face.
Reading through this thread, I’m getting a serious craving for a t-bone steak, rare, and some ribs.
That's probably the point.
As well as those who have the viewpoint that man is basically good, or that other religions provide another way to God through works, etc. All have the logical result that Jesus wasn't necessary.
You mean like tigers ate straw and ate pumas pinecones, stuff like that
Yep, that there’s as crazy as someone believing that the universe was created in 6 days with a spoken word of a transcendent Creator.
And that He came to His creation as a human and suffered and died for us.
And as crazy as people rising from the dead or suddenly seeing after being born blind.
Crazy, crazy stuff.
You don’t get it.
Since their teeth couldn’t cut up the veggies right, they didn’t grow so big. That’s also how they fit on the ark.
“Suffering” is a subjective term.
In order to “suffer” one must have human consciousness. Everything els is merely animal stimulous response.
Four.
No, six!
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