Skip to comments.MILEAGE TAX PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT ON HOW FAR YOU DRIVE
Posted on 02/21/2009 4:01:37 AM PST by Kackikat
Last night the Hannity Show said that the dems are discussing a new MILEAGE TAX on how many miles we drive.
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I agree with you, but there are at least three states following this proposal with discussion of implementation, and isn’t that the point of the Transportation head to bring it up...so that the Obamamites would implement it in their state?? But like I said before, it is double taxation, when we are already paying a gas tax, so a mileage tax is for the same thing—driving miles.
In North Carolina, that's somewhere around 24 cents a gallon... since I get (nearly) 24 miles to a gallon, that's already a penny per mile.
Meanwhile, the business mileage reimbursements are 50.5 cents, so here we go again with whacky, knee-jerk reaction conflicting/confiscatory tax policies again. We'd better darn well start raising up some serious candidates to challenge these yahoos quick... November 2010 isn't really that far away.
Agreed - testing the waters...it will be back in another form.
And there are three states actually considering doing this now as a state tax, so see how they float an idea and their stooges at state level pick it up.
And you are right, what doesn’t get picked up by the stooges will come back in another form. Disgusting!
I agree it is time to get some REAL CONSERVATIVES CAMPAIGNING for 2010!!
At some point Americans will either have to take up arms and force the Federal Government to relinquish their authority over the states and the people, or we will have to relinquish our own sovereignty over ourselves and become complete slaves to the central government authority.
This would be punishment for everyone. Average Joe and his family cant drive to the mall or drive to thier favorite amusement park anymore. Who gets punished? the workers at those places who get laid off because there is nobody there, the gas stations, tire shops, repair places because people are parking thier cars because they cant afford to drive them. And who gets hurt most of all, Joe Average because now he has to listen to his bratty kids whine about be stuck at home.
And bumper stickers, which beg for the retort, Sez who?
“your point alludes me”
the point is it’s disingenuous. it’s the usual misinformation & 3 card monty stuff we get with taxes.
the government & the media keep the people misinformed & deluded as to the real nature of the issues
You are absolutely correct. Thanks for being blunt.
You’re ignoring absolutely everything I’ve said about the impossibility of building the infrastructure to support this ludicrous dream.
Once again: the supporting infrastructure cannot be built.
And no supporting infrastructure = no GPS/mileage tax.
How much simpler does it need to be stated to you?
The GPS system to track your mileage could just as easily track you. Not even Orwell could have imagined a system that keeps track of every citizen’s movements. It is none of the government’s business where I go.
You are hitting on something important here, because some see the stimulus and some of these concepts as intentional moves to destroy America. Tourism would definately be affected, because this would add to the cost of travel.
People intelligent enough to get a degree know this, so why all the “defeating ideas” that will only bring disaster?
AARP is a democratic org that supports the dem campaigns, and is a big RETIREE org. A large percentage of those Retirees own RV’s and travel...so they get hit hard to support the dems and now get screwed financially by them.
There is talk of another stimulus....now all of this debt for the US tells me that ‘FINANCIAL DEBT’ is one way of keeping America out of any future wars....how will we defend ourselves? We won’t be able to defend Israel either, and isn’t the destruction of Israel the whole point for muslims???
I put a link on FR about the FDR errors of stimulus pkgs, so if Obama went to Harvard he would know that. The UCLA Economists did a study published in 2004 and the article stated “we found that a relapse isn’t likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill conceived stimulus policies.”
Now my question is are they trying to gum up former efforts, and that is why they keep crying they “inherited” this mess” or are they just stupid??
They know what they are doing. They have been planning it for 8 years and began implementing it in September.
They are not stupid, they are arrogant> which in this case is worse.
At least if they were stupid, maybe somebody could teach them about their mistakes, but arrongance is unfixable.
I don't know? Could you be a little more condescending? Global warming is a fraud, but we are paying for it every day. Politics has nothing to do with whether something is technologically feasible, only whether it accomplishes a political goal. So, I defer to your vastly superior technological aptitude. But your political aptitude needs work.
>>>>>> Do you agree that its possible to talk about the last days in a serious conversation? <<<<<<<
No I do not. But not for the reasons you may think. Rather I say that because almost every “last days” assertion I’ve ever heard or read here on FR (or elsewhere) fails to account for the numerous (limitless) other occasions in our present and past that entirely refute any “last days” assertion. For example, let’s talk about the Millerites.
>>>>>> Do you agree that its possible to use relevant quotes from all sources, including biblical sources, to make points about serious situations? <<<<<<
No I do not believe the Bible predicts events in such a manner as to be “decoded” by certain self-anointed insiders and “believers”. Event the Bible itself says that people should not and cannot do that, nor should such people be believed.
>>>>>> For example, if I were to say, Thats Armageddon-level behavior. does that mean that Im necessarily predicting that some event is the Armageddon? <<<<<<
I don’t know what you mean by “Armageddon-level behavior” and I’d ask you what you meant by saying it.
Are you crazy? Do you want to put alot of dents on your car?
This is being proposed here in Oregon. Each and every (private) vehicle will have a GPS system installed. They will know where you go, when you go, how far you go and how long you stay. No mention of Public Transportation, Governors, False Prophets, Senators, and Congressmens vehicles. It is is out and out wrong!! Practice your Curtseys folks!!!! & JUST SAY NO
that makes sense, thanks.
His arrogance has yet to go visit the troops, and as Commander in Chief that was what Bush did first after being inaugerated. The big “O” had an interview on Al Jazeera, a visit to Canada, and some other socialist/marxist interests.
I was once part of the hand-wringing, worried about what the government is proposing to do instead of what they are actually doing crowd. <<<<<<<
I think you’d agree that they key to coming back to reality is to recognize that “the government” doesn’t do much of what people think it might do (e.g., “FICA warrantless wiretaps”) because in many cases it is impossible in reality to actually implement and execute in the real world what’s being asserted that government “can do” or “does do”.
That democrat KOOKAID is getting stronger and more damaging..Nancy and the buzzheads.
Totally worth the clean up. Thanks for the laugh this morning! ;)
The troops? They are in his eyes a bunch a blue collar morons and criminals who only joined because they couldnt keep their jobs at Walmart.
This man is the slime that slime wipes off its shoes.
“Youre ignoring absolutely everything Ive said about the impossibility of building the infrastructure to support this ludicrous dream.
Once again: the supporting infrastructure cannot be built.
And no supporting infrastructure = no GPS/mileage tax.
How much simpler does it need to be stated to you?”
And why should we take your word for this? What are your qualifications to make such a sweeping definitive statement?
>>>>>> I don’t know? Could you be a little more condescending? <<<<<<
This entire thread is about the implementation of a new kind of tax through a purely technical process and infrastructure.
Yet you think it’s all “political”!?!?!
Who’s being condescending?
Even a dimwit such as myself can figure that one out. You have been lecturing everyone since the start of this thread. If you want polite discourse continue on. If you just want to imply that everyone but you is stupid, apply for a position at the Whitehouse, if you are not already employed there
It makes me wonder how the troop morale is, and how the officers are keeping up their spirits in this atmosphere of arrogance. When I was younger I was a USNR for many years,...so my concern is always the troops.
There is so much new technology it’s scary. I watched a show the other day on “a bionic hand”, which the man could control with his mind. They took the bionic hand to a different country, and he could control that hand with his mind from where he was. So don’t let anyone tell you they couldn’t make the technology to know what’s on your odometer combined with your position at all times, and may already have it..
To use his mind to operate the “bionic hand” took the implementation of a “chip”, but it worked.
>>>>> And why should we take your word for this? What are your qualifications to make such a sweeping definitive statement? <<<<<<
Oh, you definitely should not.
Ask your elected representatives, they’ll be happy to explain to you how it all works and how it’ll be built by next year and for less than one billion dollars.
Easy enough. Remove the real GPS and replace it with a fake one. End of story!
There has to be groups in Oregon that could get a ballot initiative going to stop the plans dead in its tracks. Now is the time to do it before it’s too late.
Those drums are usually pounded around fires too.
They are just BEGGING for an ass whipping! And they will get one.
>>>>>> apply for a position at the Whitehouse, if you are not already employed there <<<<<<<<
Seems like it is you who wants to stir up a lot of unnecessary angst for no particular reason.
And just to be clear, your arguments are irrational.
But really it’s more like they’re a-rational, since they address not a single point which can be argued on the merits or on the facts.
To put your fingers in your ears and repeatedly yell “It’s politics! It’s politics!” just makes you look ridiculous.
That's an environmentalist's dream. They'll raise the tax rate if you drive over a certain limit, say 50 miles or advocate for monthly travel quotas before they begin charging more per mile.
Under this plan, ALL ROADS BECOME TOLL ROADS.
This looks like a trial balloon, that just popped (for now).
Und, vere are you goink anyvay? Do you need to go zere? Anyvay, do you haff your papers?
Seriously, for those of us without GPS - will we be ordered to buy one for our vehicles? And if so, why can't we get a coupon to get one for free like the digital coupon for TV?
And if we don't have to get a GPS, how will they track our mileage. Will we have to go to a new government beauracracy station every Jan. 1st to have the Official Mileage Checker person post our mileage on Official Mileage Checker Form No. xxxxxxx?
And then after all the utilities (water and sewer bills) are in place, then if you aren’t paying city taxes they will ANNEX you and your taxes double. If you can’t pay those taxes, then you home is sold to highest bidder, after sheriff takes control, and you have to move losing any equity or payments you have made.
We don’t own anything anymore, just an interest in it, and a lawyer told me that years ago....this reminds me of the movie of the “Von Trappe” family in Austria called “The Sound of Music”..of course now there is no where to go to escape the coming NWO.
Nothing has popped, as they are testing the waters to see what will fly with the American People. If they have to change it and wait a little while to implement, just know they will still be working behind the scenes...like the UNFAIR FAIRNESS DOCTRINE.
you may want to see someone about that speech impediment.
Isn’t Oregon a mostly dem state? Do you think they will oppose “the one”?
Prediction .... modified odometers gonna be for sale .......:o)