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Bail hearing postponed for Saudi student charged in assault (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
Halifax Chronicle-Herald ^ | February 21, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 02/21/2009 6:52:21 AM PST by Loyalist

A student from Saudi Arabia had a dazed look on his face Friday as he made his second appearance in Halifax provincial court on charges of attacking a young woman Tuesday night.

Khalid Khulaif Alhardbi, 19, is charged with assault, unlawful confinement and wearing a mask in the commission of an offence.

Aya Saito, a Japanese exchange student attending Dalhousie University, was in the women’s washroom at the Halifax YMCA students residence at about 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when the lights went out and she was grabbed from behind by a man who had his face covered.

The man held the woman’s arms against her body and placed his hand over her mouth. She broke free after a few minutes and screamed.

Other students rushed to help and subdued the man down the hall, holding him until police arrived at the South Park Street building.

Ms. Saito did not know Mr. Alhardbi, although they were both living at the YMCA.

Mr. Alhardbi was in court Friday for less than two minutes, just long enough for defence lawyer Elizabeth Buckle to ask that his bail hearing be adjourned until next Wednesday.

"We’re not prepared to proceed with the (bail) hearing today," Ms. Buckle told Judge Hughes Randall, who granted the adjournment.

An Arabic interpreter sat next to Mr. Alhardbi on the prisoners bench and translated the proceedings for him. The accused will remain in custody at the Central Nova Scotia Correctional Facility in Dartmouth.

The Crown is opposed to Mr. Alhardbi’s release on the grounds that he is a flight risk.

He is in Canada on a student visa and does not have any family here.

Mr. Alhardbi surrendered his Saudi Arabian passport to Halifax Regional Police on Friday, but the Crown is concerned that he could still get out of the country if he were granted bail.

Another teenage student from Saudi Arabia fled Canada three years ago to avoid trial in Nova Scotia Supreme Court on charges of sexual assault and sexual interference.

Taher Ali Al-Saba allegedly assaulted two girls in June 2006, while he was in Halifax for a three-month English course.

Mr. Al-Saba was released that July on $10,000 cash bail after he gave up his passport and agreed to live in Dartmouth and not leave Canada. He never showed up for his trial in January 2007.

The Crown was able to confirm that staff at the Saudi Arabian embassy in Ottawa helped Mr. Al-Saba flee the country.

Canada doesn’t have an extradition treaty with Saudi Arabia.

Ms. Aya Saito said her ordeal was frightening, but it hasn’t soured her on studying in Halifax. She said she is still staying at the YMCA.

Ms. Saito told CBC News her attacker told her to keep quiet, but she didn’t.

"I just screamed," the young woman told CBC.

Ms. Saito said she feels safe at the Y. To help keep her more secure, Ms. Saito now carries a cellphone and personal alarm, CBC reported.

"I don’t need to worry about it," she said of her own safety.

CBC said this is Ms. Saito’s first trip outside Japan.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; misogyny; novascotia; religionofpeace; rop; saudiarabia; trop
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The Saudi embassy has helped criminals escape Canadian justice in the past. It looks like they're going to do so again if this scum gets bail.

If Ottawa had any guts, they'd expel the Saudi ambassador and give the Saudis two choices: strip their miscreant diplomats of immunity and turn them over to face charges in Canada, or expel them all and suspend diplomatic relations until the Saudis quit playing games and agree to sign an extradition treaty.

I have no doubt that diplomats from other Muslim countries are showing the same contempt for the justice system in other Western countries as well, including the USA.

1 posted on 02/21/2009 6:52:22 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist

I’ve known Saudis living in the U.S. They run to the casinos and strip joints. They drink to excess and hire hookers if they can find them. They have no self-control whatsoever.

They come from a country where it is the government’s job to protect you from temptation, rather than your job to resist it. When they have an opportunity in the West to gamble, drink, and have sex, they jump at it.


2 posted on 02/21/2009 6:58:15 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Loyalist

What makes me think that you are correct? The muslim countries have the lowest rate of rape and sexual abuse cases against women in the world. (stoning victims that report the abuse might be the answer to that one)

Could it be that muslim men believe that ravaging women is their allah given right? After all, what is sharia law other than promoting mohammed’s way of life?


3 posted on 02/21/2009 7:07:02 AM PST by mckenzie7 ( mohammed = 666)
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To: Loyalist

ALLAH-FUBAR!

3 Month English course my @rse. More like a 3 month rapefest, in the “decadent west”. Be hard to tell whether you had your eye on a good thing, looking at the way they keep their women out there. Theyre not even allowed to drive cars!


4 posted on 02/21/2009 7:07:19 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Loyalist

Sexuality of muslim men (this is from first hand observations):

1. “Men and boys are for pleasure and women are for (male) babies.”
2. It is not homosexual activity if you are the “pitcher” or the one “penetrating.”
3. Non-muslim women are all whores and prostitutes
4. Sex with non-muslim women doesn’t count (as cheating) because they are infidels
5. If a muslim women is raped, it is her fault (she should have fought back harder)
6. It is OK to marry 13 year olds and have up to 4 wives. It is OK to divorce a wife once she gets too old and add a younger bride to your “stable”
7. It is OK to “marry” a muslim woman, have sex with her and them divorce her - it is called a “pleasure marriage” or temporary marriage (or sigha). The local Mullah gets a cut of the cost of the marriage. He actually is the pimp.

This is their mindset. The quicker you understand this the better you will comprehend their bizarre behavior...

And here’s the “allah” loophole:

Qur’an 24:34 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

Owning females slaves is ok, and forcing them into prostitution is ok. Besides, having sex with a slave is always ok.

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

And they claim the Western World is morally bankrupt? Up to 4 wives each, plus unlimited concubines, and the occasional sex slave...who needs the internet?


5 posted on 02/21/2009 7:11:01 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Loyalist
This is obviously just a case of cultural misunderstanding. The Saudi is in need of "sensitivity training".

So, lock him in a room with some Japanese women who happen to be martial arts experts. Let his victim watch and learn (she obviously needs schooling in her own cultural heritage). Send the Saudi back home and let him explain his bruises and broken bones.
6 posted on 02/21/2009 7:24:32 AM PST by Ragnar54
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To: Loyalist
Is there any college or university in North America that does not have Saudi students? I have read that some universities have so many Arab on student visas that they are organized and force their issues onto the others. Who pays the large out-of-state tuitions?
7 posted on 02/21/2009 7:35:25 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: Loyalist

But we were told by Bush it is a great religion on TV that can’t be wrong can it?


8 posted on 02/21/2009 7:54:48 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: elpadre

The Saudi government or some variation of it.
Recently two college administrators from Maine flew to Saudi Arabia to discuss a joint venture. The entire tab was picked up by their government or some related entity.


9 posted on 02/21/2009 8:15:16 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner
Recently two college administrators from Maine flew to Saudi Arabia to discuss a joint venture.

No coincidence as the Muslim Somali takeover of Lewiston continues at full speed.

10 posted on 02/21/2009 10:12:38 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Maine Mariner
Recently two college administrators from Maine flew to Saudi Arabia to discuss a joint venture.

No coincidence as the Muslim Somali takeover of Lewiston continues at full speed.

11 posted on 02/21/2009 10:14:10 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Loyalist

I am a Saudi doctor currently training in Ontario. Currently there is a large number of Saudi trainees working and residing along with their families in various provinces. We are very fortunate to be enrolled in the best Canadian Universities and working at world-class institutes. We are also honored to render our services to the Canadian health system at no cost to the Canadian public. This country and its people have embraced us and we can’t thank you enough for hosting us.

However, I wish to express how disgraced I am by the acts of felony committed by any fellow Saudi citizen while being hosted by a great country like Canada. I, along with my fellows denounce even the slightest misdemeanors that go against the laws and norms of this society. I hope that, if proven guilty, this young man faces the toughest punishment. I wish to reaffirm our commitment to respect the Canadian society and its laws, and to facilitate the strides of progress in this great nation.

Reply to “2banana”: What you’ve quoted about sexuality of muslim men is completely false. All the points you’ve listed and the verses you’ve quoted are unfortunately baseless and have been circulating on many websites to ridicule Islam.

Also, the presumed role of the Saudi Embassy in helping Al-Saba escape Canada was never proven. It is just a theory. If it was ever established to be a fact, the Saudi ambassador would definitely have been summoned to the Canadian foreign affairs office and deeply strained the Saudi-Canadian relations.


12 posted on 02/21/2009 11:37:31 AM PST by AliC
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To: AliC

Uh huh.

Signup date: Feb 21 2001.


13 posted on 02/21/2009 1:13:31 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

As much as I am perplexed by the nature of the act of this Saudi student, I am equally disappointed by the nature of replies to the subject by (presumably) Canadian readers. This only reflects the degree of ignorance, short sightedness, and preset mentalities against people from the Muslim world. The fact that the Saudi government does not have a perfect screening procedure for the young students it sponsors to train in North America is a noticeable problem. On the other hand, I happen to work with a lot of well trained, civil, and highly qualified Saudi citizens that represent their country (and that part of the world) in a great way. As a Canadian, I am so ashamed of the remarks that I read and truly hope that they do not represent a majority opinion.

The incident that happened needs to be dealt with on individual bases. It is a rare anomaly and not the norm. The endless reports of rape and murder in the “North American” media are never attributed to the North American way of living, faith(s), or lack of faith for that matter. This incident is no exception.


15 posted on 02/22/2009 6:41:42 AM PST by Dr. RM
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To: Dr. RM

I’m not sure what kind of doctor you are, but being “perplexed” by rape by a 19 year old single male is a bit odd. Perhaps a language problem.

As for the reports of rape and murder by North Americans in the North American media, we express the same level of disapproval and frequently attribute it to the way things are “these days.”

Unfortunately, we rarely hear of disapproval of “honor” killings by those in the Muslim world. And a Muslim pregnant rape victim is to receive 100 lashes during her jail sentence for having been too trusting and getting raped. When we don’t hear of members of the Muslim world speaking out against these things, it is reasonable to presume acceptance.

Keep in mind that I posted about the signup date of the individual I posted to. Nothing else, yet your post was addressed to me as if I were accountable for all the other posters on this thread. We have a phrase “Pot calling the kettle black.” In this case you have the wrong kettle.


16 posted on 02/22/2009 7:18:38 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Dr. RM; John Williams

Signup date for Dr. M Feb 22, 2009

I noticed a typo in my post re AliP: signup date Feb 21, 2009 not 2001


17 posted on 02/22/2009 7:25:10 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.
I think you meant:

"Signup date: Feb 21 2009."
18 posted on 02/22/2009 7:42:14 AM PST by Ragnar54
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To: Ragnar54

Yes, thanks.

I finally noticed and corrected it in post 17.


19 posted on 02/22/2009 9:28:36 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: 2banana
I am not sure from where did you get this information, i think you should review that.

any way i think we should wait tell we know all the details of the case before we judge, and even if he is guilty he just represent him self and he didn't represent all the Muslims.

I would like to mention that there is a very good Saudi figures in Canada and they live her for ever with no problems.

i think we should be fair

20 posted on 02/23/2009 5:27:48 AM PST by I am fair
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