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Car Dealers Fear State Tax Increases Will Put The Brake On Sales
LA Times ^ | February 21, 2009

Posted on 02/21/2009 11:13:16 AM PST by Steelfish

Car dealers fear state tax increases will put the brake on sales

Dealers say tax hikes used to help close California's budget gap will raise the cost of buying a car and drive away customers.

The levies, imposed to help close a $42-billion projected state budget deficit, will add almost $400 to the price of the average new car.

By Ken Bensinger February 21, 2009

California's auto dealers are worried that the state's new budget will put an even bigger dent in already miserable sales.

Increases in the sales tax and vehicle license fees were key components of the measure signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday.

Both raise the cost of buying a car.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 02/21/2009 11:13:16 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Ve haff vays of making you people ride der bus.


2 posted on 02/21/2009 11:16:05 AM PST by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Steelfish

Stop the presses...you mean higher taxes don’t stimulate the economy and fuel growth in sales! What about the economic boom in 1993 after Clinton’s tax increases...did the media tell a fib?


3 posted on 02/21/2009 11:17:32 AM PST by JrsyJack (Oh dem golden slippers!!)
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To: JrsyJack
My advice to those who can afford a vehicle in California and the gas to operate it: Get out while you can. Pack your belongings into the vehicle and drive east before they erect barriers to anyone who can earn an income yet is trying to leave. Someone has to pay the bills for the illegals and various government parasite groups and if you don't leave, it will be YOU.

I did it a few years back and have not looked back.

Vince

4 posted on 02/21/2009 11:26:18 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Steelfish

the tax increase just stopped my purchase of a new car will drive my 98 sable into the ground and then wear out my f-150


5 posted on 02/21/2009 11:27:24 AM PST by mt tom (high in the sierras looking down into the garden spot of the world)
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To: Steelfish
In other words: tax everybody else, just don't tax my business.
Years ago, when ol' Meathead (Rob Reiner) proposed increasing taxes on tobacco and alcohol to fund children's healthcare (obviously Meathead is a user of neither of these products), I counter-proposed that thay also put a tax on movie theater tickets to help the poor children.
I never heard if ol' Meathead though this was a good idea or not. I wonder what he thinks?
6 posted on 02/21/2009 11:32:22 AM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: Steelfish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tv2VVGuwBs

Even Arnold agrees with this (see link)...oh, wait that was in 2003. What a fraud.


7 posted on 02/21/2009 11:37:02 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Steelfish
The Dems in California enacted mostly regressive taxes. The one cent increase in the sales tax is terribly regressive. Then throw in doubling the car tax. And the increase in the gas tax. These all hit the poor the hardest. I thought democrats just wanted to soak the rich? What happened?!
8 posted on 02/21/2009 11:46:37 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Mouton
My advice to those who can afford a vehicle in California and the gas to operate it: Get out while you can.

A friend told me that a person who retires on a California state pension has to live in California or lose the pension. Does anyone know if that is true? I don't think that is the case in my state.

9 posted on 02/21/2009 11:48:54 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: Nick Danger
Ve haff vays of making you people ride der bus.

Going to be mighty difficult here. A few months ago they took away our twice-daily service (6 AM into town, 6 PM back). My wait for the next bus to come along is probably measured in years.

10 posted on 02/21/2009 11:50:06 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | REAL Stimulus: Apply paddles, shout "CLEAR!")
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To: mt tom
the tax increase just stopped my purchase of a new car will drive my 98 sable into the ground and then wear out my f-150

I generally retire my vehicles at about 250k miles. I have about another 100k to go on my '92 Suzuki Tracker.

11 posted on 02/21/2009 11:53:15 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | REAL Stimulus: Apply paddles, shout "CLEAR!")
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To: Mouton

Smart damn advice if you aks me.....


12 posted on 02/21/2009 11:56:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Steelfish

Kalifornia is committing suicide with these tax hikes.


13 posted on 02/21/2009 12:01:47 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Steelfish

Part of the liberal plan to force you to stop driving. We’re living at the hands of petty dictators.


14 posted on 02/21/2009 12:07:04 PM PST by popdonnelly (I went to an Obama Townhall and threw away my crutches!)
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To: Steelfish

Cut back on entitlements and send the illegals back to Mexico.


15 posted on 02/21/2009 12:08:41 PM PST by popdonnelly (I went to an Obama Townhall and threw away my crutches!)
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To: sionnsar
I have about another 100k to go on my '92 Suzuki Tracker.

I have no complaints on my '96 Sidekick except that the front seals have a propensity to go out, requiring the timing belt to be replaced. Have seen the same thing on other Suzuki/Geo three and four cylinder motors. Other than that, they seem rather bulletproof given normal maintenance.

16 posted on 02/21/2009 12:14:20 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: ExtremeUnction

Not enough stupid rich folks left to tax. With a $42B hole to close (so they say - I believe it’s closer to $50B), you could jack up the top end rate to 100% and not even come close.

The smart ones either moved out of state completely, or are domiciled out-of-state and still living in CA in their “second homes”.

Personally, this scrubs the plans we had to replace our two cars (one nine and the other seven years old) this year. From what I hear from other folks, lots of rumblings about cutting back on taxable purchases and/or moving out of state.


17 posted on 02/21/2009 12:18:25 PM PST by Strzelec (Soon, folks are going to find out who this John Galt guy really is...)
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To: Steelfish

Guess those dealers are either going to have to sell the public on the idea that sales tax on a new car is now deductable as an adjustment to income, or they’re going to have to eat a few hundred more bucks per car.


18 posted on 02/21/2009 12:23:52 PM PST by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: Steelfish
They WILL NOT CUT SPENDING. They just keep RAISING TAXES.

The strategy seems to be DIG the HOLE even DEEPER.

19 posted on 02/21/2009 12:24:36 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Mouton
Pack your belongings into the vehicle and drive east ...

But you must make a solemn oath to make sure that what happens in Kah-lee-for-neeya stays in Kah-lee-for-neeya!

20 posted on 02/21/2009 12:33:27 PM PST by uglybiker (AAAAAAH!!! I'm covered in BEES!)
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To: steve86

Thanks for the heads’ up. The repair costs so far have been pretty minor for the mileage — fuel injector failure, wiper motor failure and failed seal on 4WD front hub.


21 posted on 02/21/2009 12:42:49 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | REAL Stimulus: Apply paddles, shout "CLEAR!")
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To: Mouton

To all of you who think about this:
Do NOT even consider coming to Massachusetts. Our governor makes the Governator look like an beginner. In a state that is partially dependent on a TOURIST trade, he is in the process of HUGELY raising the cost of driving here. Stay away, for your own sake.


22 posted on 02/21/2009 12:56:43 PM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Steelfish

California is screwed up.


23 posted on 02/21/2009 1:40:19 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
A friend told me that a person who retires on a California state pension has to live in California or lose the pension. Does anyone know if that is true?

I don't think you lose it, but California is claiming the right to levy state income tax on it, no matter where you move.

24 posted on 02/21/2009 1:42:14 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mouton

I did it a few years back and have not looked back.
__________________________
Good for you but times have changed. The new departure tax makes it almost impossible for most of us to leave.
Besides the tax there is a maximum amount of household goods one can remove from the state now and the child abuse laws are so far very fuzzy on the trama children suffer moving out of state. /s


25 posted on 02/21/2009 1:50:55 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: Joan Kerrey
You had a sarcasm tag on your reply... but it's not far from the truth... take a look at this Proposition that's in the "gathering signatures" phase.

Wealth Tax. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statute.
Summary Date: 01/28/09 Circulation Deadline: 06/29/09 Signatures Required: 694,354

Proponent: Paul McCauley

Imposes one-time tax of at least 55% on property in California exceeding $15 million if single, $20 million if married. Imposes one-time tax (between 36.5% - 54.3%) on income exceeding $10 million when resident dies or leaves California. Imposes additional 17.5% tax on total incomes of taxpayers with income exceeding $150,000 if single, $250,000 if married; 35% if incomes exceed $350,000 if single, $500,000 if married. Creates tax credits. Requires State to acquire shares of specified corporations to influence environmental practices. May exempt new revenues from education funding requirements. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: One-time increase in state revenues potentially in the low hundreds of billions of dollars from imposition of a wealth tax, and ongoing increase in state revenues potentially in the billions of dollars from imposition of the tax on certain people dying or leaving the state. This revenue would be allocated to accomplish various goals related to environmental protection. Potential annual net increase in personal income tax revenues in the tens of billions of dollars annually. At least $8 billion annually would be allocated to the state General Fund with additional revenue allocated for environmental protection. Unknown state and local revenue reductions—potentially in the tens of billions of dollars annually—due to changes in taxpayer behavior. (08-0020.) (Full Text)


26 posted on 02/21/2009 2:04:11 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (I am John Galt...)
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To: JrsyJack
you mean higher fairer taxes don’t stimulate the economy and fuel growth in sales

All better.

27 posted on 02/21/2009 2:05:50 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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