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Arkansas smokers buy Missouri's cigarettes (4 cartons= Felony!)
Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | Feb 22, 2009 | Bill Bowden

Posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:42 AM PST by ozark hilljilly

CAVERNA, Mo. - Terry Potter lives in Rogers but he won't buy cigarettes in Arkansas.

Potter plays golf in Bella Vista, and it's just a short drive to the Missouri state line, where a carton of cigarettes is considerably cheaper.

"I wouldn't buy cigarettes in Arkansas," he said, while shopping Friday at Don's Stateline Store in Caverna, Mo. "It's an $8 or $10 difference right now."

On March 1, Arkansas' new 56-cents-per-pack cigarette tax will go into effect, raising the price by $5.60 for a wholesale carton that likely will be passed on to retail customers. The tax will increase other tobacco products by 36 percent on the selling price, up from the current 32 percent, for a total rate of 68 percent. The money is supposed to help pay for a trauma system in Arkansas hospitals.

The price for a carton of cigarettes currently ranges from about $25 in Missouri to about $42 for a premium brand in Arkansas. A carton generally has 10 packs, each with 20 cigarettes.

"That's just more incentive to drive to Missouri," Potter said. "I think sometimes state governments lose sight of population concentrations on state lines."

Missouri has the second lowest state cigarette tax in the country - 17 cents per pack. Arkansas' current tax is 59 cents per pack, but that amount will increase to $1.15 per pack on March 1, which is still 4 cents below the national average. Nationally, the state tax rates on cigarettes range from 7 cents per pack in South Carolina to $2.58 in New Jersey, according to the Federation of Tax Administrators.

Just across the state line from Bella Vista, retailers in Missouri are anxious for Arkansas to start collecting the higher tobacco tax.

"Next month, it's going to get real busy," said Pam Cowger, manager of The Jug Store in Caverna.

The increases will continue.

On April Fools Day, the federal government will raise its cigarette tax by 62 cents per pack across the country, which means the price of a pack of cigarettes in Arkansas will increase by $1.18 between now and then. Add sales taxes to the state and federal excise taxes, and the total taxes on a carton of cigarettes in Benton County will be at least $18.76 in April, compared to $7.90 in Missouri, said Cowger.

"On April 1, people will stop buying cigarettes in Arkansas," she predicted. "That's a lot of difference. That's going to help our business."

"Between the lottery, the booze and the cigarettes, it's all cheaper in Missouri," said Angela Holland, another manager at The Jug Store. "I guess we don't have all the outrageous taxes. I hope they don't get any ideas."

*snip*

BOOTLEGGING?

Holland said it's not unusual to have Arkansas residents buy $400 to $600 worth of cigarettes at a time.

Arkansans may legally possess one carton plus one pack of cigarettes that don't have an Arkansas cigarette tax, said Gabe Holmstrom, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office. Arkansans can have 50 cigars or three pounds of loose smoking tobacco without the state tax stamp. If they possess more than that, or sell cigarettes in Arkansas that don't have the state stamp, "it's a criminal offense," Holmstrom wrote in an e-mail.

If the value exceeds $100, it's a Class C felony, punishable by three to 10 years in prison. If the value is less than $100, it's a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail.

"The Missouri border is going to be a problem when the new tax kicks in," said Greg Sled, enforcement supervisor for the Arkansas Tobacco Control Board. "With the increased Arkansas excise taxes, we anticipate a significant increase in tobacco smuggling. So far, most of our enforcement has been targeted at the retail level, but in light of the new tax increases, additional enforcement needs will be evaluated and enforcement efforts may include both retailers and consumers. This will take additional man-power to keep tobacco smuggling in check."

"If cigarette smuggling becomes a problem, then we would step up, at the direction of our director," said Capt. Lance King, with Troop L of the Arkansas State Police in Springdale. "But we haven't yet."


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And as for those "cheap" Indian cigs, the article mentions this towards the end:

"Along the Oklahoma border, the Cherokee Nation was known for smoke shops and cheap cigarettes. But that changed on Nov. 21, when a new agreement between the Cherokees and the state of Oklahoma blew the cigarette tax from 11 cents per pack to 66.5 cents in the border tribal land along the Arkansas state line.

That means, since Nov. 21, the cigarette tax was higher in the Cherokee Nation than in Arkansas. But that will change on March 1. And the Arkansas tax will be higher by 12 cents over Oklahoma's $1.03 per pack in non-Indian shops."

They got us coming and going, folks. Wow, a carton and a pack from out of state will now make you a criminal. Let's hear it for Change!

1 posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:43 AM PST by ozark hilljilly
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To: ozark hilljilly

The last pack of Winstons I bought cost $.50.


2 posted on 02/25/2009 7:10:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ozark hilljilly

LOL ... time to buy an old clunker car, load it with cigarettes and head south toward Fayetteville.


3 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:19 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: ozark hilljilly
raising the price by $5.60 for a wholesale carton that likely will be passed on to retail customers.

A paper with "Democrat" in the title actually tells people that taxes on producers are passed on to consumers? I'm confused.

4 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: ozark hilljilly
"This will take additional man-power to keep tobacco smuggling in check." "If cigarette smuggling becomes a problem, then we would step up, at the direction of our director," said Capt. Lance King, with Troop L of the Arkansas State Police in Springdale. "But we haven't yet."

OMG. Illegals and DRUGS are being smuggled into Arkansas daily. I don't see the additional man-power to keep THEM in check.

What are they going to do? Set up road blockades between State Lines to check for contraband cigarettes?

5 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:52 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Massachusetts residents have been going up to New Hampshire for years.

Now, we’re going for candy (new candy tax coming) and sugary drinks (new sugary drinks tax coming) and gasoline (new gas tax coming)......and fireworks.

MA actually has State troopers that sit in parking lots in NH and they follow MA residents back to MA and THEN bust ‘em with their fireworks.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 7:13:23 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: ozark hilljilly
“Arkansans may legally possess one carton plus one pack of cigarettes that don't have an Arkansas cigarette tax”

Gotta love it. Just wait until, in the scramble to prop up their bloated, wasteful budget, Localities start imposing their own taxes. Guess they'll set up roadblocks to frisk people going from one city to another. LOL

7 posted on 02/25/2009 7:14:10 AM PST by TCats
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To: ozark hilljilly
I live on the PA/NJ border (all water - the Delaware River).

People cross the bridges from NJ to PA to buy cigarettes and fireworks. There are smoke shops and firework shops within a stone's throw of nearly every bridge.

People cross the bridge from PA to NJ to buy beer and alcohol. PA still has prohibition laws on the books (only PA state shops can sell alcohol and you can only buy beer by the case in these stores). NJ has no silly rules has much greater selection, better hours and lower costs in their stores (again, many a stone's throw from any bridge).

And yes, both states have silly laws about "smuggling" or "bootlegging" across state lines...

8 posted on 02/25/2009 7:15:23 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

And that’s also what’s heading our way, too! It’s insane.

Guess I picked a bad time to get into the retail grocery trade. : (


9 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:03 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

This is sort of off topic, but when I worked at a local liquor store chain in Springfield, MO, I would see people from Oklahoma buying anywhere from 4 to 10 cases of beer to take back home with them. They hated the 3.2% beer that they got in OK. They wanted the 5% beer that Missouri has. I wondered if they could get busted for bootlegging the booze over the border like was mentioned in this article.


10 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:36 AM PST by Hatheos
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To: ozark hilljilly

Don’t let Huckabee know. He’ll run for Ark gov again to stamp out such evil. LOL


11 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:45 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: spectre
Here in PA there are posters inside cigarette retailers that say The State shall be "watching" your debit card purchases and if they suspect you are crossing state lines to buy smokes, you're in trouble.
12 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:14 AM PST by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Obummer just raised the tax on loose tobacco from $1.10 a pound to $25 a pound! Starts April 1st.


13 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ozark hilljilly

how can that felony be constitutional?

it is a commerce clause violation (mudflap line of cases and all that)


14 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mgc1122
The last time this was done, NASCAR was born. Junior Johnson and a host of others were bootleggers for white lightening.

What might come from tobacco bootlegging?

15 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:48 AM PST by Born In America (To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful)
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To: mgc1122
LOL ... time to buy an old clunker car, load it with cigarettes and head south toward Fayetteville.

Last time I was in Ukraine a couple of years ago Marlboros sold for $0.60/pack. In Dubai, Marlboros are $10/carton. It's only a matter of time before people in the smuggling business start filling up boats with foreign-purchased smokes.

Lawmakers are killing the golden goose with a combination of higher tobacco taxes and further smoking restrictions. The need 21 million new smokers and every existing smoker just to pay for SCHIP and in me they just lost a 23 year smoker when I finally threw in the towel last year and quit.

16 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Dasaji
If this is true, we're in trouble.
17 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:29 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Go to AZ or NM and go to the indian reservations and get smokes tax free.

Government makes 10 times more profit on smokes then the people that make them and gov does nothing for it.

Is this right?


18 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:42 AM PST by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Yeah, and just wait until all the states start requiring you to have GPS to tax your miles driven. They can then probably go get a court order to see that you’ve been driving to the next state’s convenience store an awful lot. People, learn to grow your own.


19 posted on 02/25/2009 7:21:53 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Beagle8U

“Obummer just raised the tax on loose tobacco from $1.10 a pound to $25 a pound! Starts April 1st.”

Yes. The tax increase in Apr. applies to all tobacco products-cigars, cigs, loose, snuff, chew. I still don’t know all the variations- .62 cents a pack on cigs, but I honestly don’t know what the increases will be on the other stuff. I sell a lot of chew, have no idea what the tax will be on that.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 7:23:08 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: Dasaji

how can they watch a person’s purchases without a warrent?


21 posted on 02/25/2009 7:23:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ozark hilljilly
"Arkansas smokers buy Missouri's cigarettes (4 cartons= Felony!)"

The Looters will punish you for "unamerican" Economic Activity!

22 posted on 02/25/2009 7:26:14 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: ozark hilljilly
That $25 per pound tax is on the roll ya own, loose cigarette tobacco.
23 posted on 02/25/2009 7:27:29 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SaintDismas
"People, learn to grow your own."

Yeah and then your "Patriotic" Neighbors (Liberals) will use Google Earth to turn you into the looters for illegal crops planted to deprive the state of taxes.

24 posted on 02/25/2009 7:28:38 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: SaintDismas

Our deluded guvna proposed a chip in the inspection sticker that tracks every mile in the State.

“I honestly don’t know why my chip is not working, Guvna...”

At the same time, he proposed a HUGE gas tax and toll hike....something like 29 cents per gallon and a $5 bridge/tunnel hike.

....but it was all a scam to get the People to accept the lesser evil....look how nice he is....we’re ONLY getting a $2 toll hike AND a 19 cent per gallon tax hike.

How kind of them.....


25 posted on 02/25/2009 7:29:06 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: ozark hilljilly

“...we anticipate a significant increase in tobacco smuggling.”

My God it has come to this?! “Tobacco smuggling”?!!
In a country ran by a Phony a Fruit and a Feminazi I guess anything is to be expected.......


26 posted on 02/25/2009 7:29:07 AM PST by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Mad Dawgg
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27 posted on 02/25/2009 7:29:12 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Tobacco-runners...the moonshiners of the 21st century


28 posted on 02/25/2009 7:31:01 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: mkcc30

“My God it has come to this?! “Tobacco smuggling”?!!”

Tragic, ain’t it? Welcome to the brave, new, THIRD world.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 7:31:22 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: ozark hilljilly
If the value exceeds $100, it's a Class C felony, punishable by three to 10 years in prison.

Wow, you only get 5 years in prison from the feds, and that is for smuggling 300 cartons or more.

30 posted on 02/25/2009 7:31:49 AM PST by Between the Lines (After 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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To: stainlessbanner

The feds only create crime they NEVER prevent it.


31 posted on 02/25/2009 7:32:00 AM PST by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: ozark hilljilly
Arkansans may legally possess one carton plus one pack of cigarettes that don't have an Arkansas cigarette tax, said Gabe Holmstrom, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office. Arkansans can have 50 cigars or three pounds of loose smoking tobacco without the state tax stamp. If they possess more than that, or sell cigarettes in Arkansas that don't have the state stamp, "it's a criminal offense," Holmstrom wrote in an e-mail.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this bitter clinger territory? How much governmentis too much and just what will it take for people to stand up to this $hit?
32 posted on 02/25/2009 7:33:43 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: longtermmemmory

The police have become nothing more than revenue collectors. Fighting crime is secondary.


33 posted on 02/25/2009 7:34:44 AM PST by bfree (Obamie the Commie-- FBO)
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To: mkcc30

My thoughts exactly!
Criminalizing just plain folk.
Oh, well...fear and paranoia keeps the masses in check, right?


34 posted on 02/25/2009 7:35:56 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: spectre

I guess next fall during deer season, I’ll have to keep a sharper eye out and avoid coming upon illegal tobacco crops along with the pot crops grown in the woods.


35 posted on 02/25/2009 7:35:57 AM PST by OB1kNOb (OBAMA -- One Big A** Mistake America)
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To: AD from SpringBay

“How much governmentis too much and just what will it take for people to stand up to this $hit? “

Once it becomes ineffective to do anything to stop it.

(Sorry, my cynic hat is screwed on real tight today!)


36 posted on 02/25/2009 7:41:19 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Guess the Obamatrons should be screaming about how we’ll be viewed by the rest of the world now that their livlihoods are in jeopardy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzS9dvBAPMU


37 posted on 02/25/2009 7:42:12 AM PST by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Yeah or it keeps the masses on the edge of revolt.....


38 posted on 02/25/2009 7:43:13 AM PST by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Born In America

Woo Hoo, Winston Cup is back!!


39 posted on 02/25/2009 7:44:26 AM PST by twistedwrench
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To: spectre

Wow, you could get a felony for buying lower tax cigarettes across state lines but NOT for smuggling in people who don’t pay taxes to the country they shouldn’t even be in ...


40 posted on 02/25/2009 7:46:36 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: mkcc30

Which gives them cause to crack heads even harder.
Oy!
Never in my lifetime did I ever think I’d see my country turned on its’ head so fast.
But I bet we all have been saying that way too much lately.


41 posted on 02/25/2009 7:47:37 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: ozark hilljilly

I first bought cigatettes in 1971. Three packs of Camels were a dollar and a few cents. Leave it to Big Brother.


42 posted on 02/25/2009 7:52:24 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: RasterMaster

I’m so sick of this administrations plethora of “unintended consequences”!

I’m sure in their eyes it was all those evil conservative capitalists that made cigars popular, so therefor, anyone connected to the biz must be punished.
I’m sure someone will come up with some silly ass “green” technology they can busy themselves with instead of making cigars. Kinda like the Afghan farmers switching to crops other than poppies.


43 posted on 02/25/2009 7:54:07 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: Dasaji

What’s the difference between buying smokes across the state line and buying anything else? I live in the southmost part of Chicago. When I used to smoke cigarettes, I always bought them in Indiana. The same for gasoline. The same for a lot of things, and do you know why? Not only is the tax on everything a lot less in Indiana — but the disparity between Indiana’s tax and Illinois’ tax has destroyed a lot of retail business in my part of Chicago. There isn’t a gasoline station within miles of my house in Illinois. There isn’t a regular convenience store that doesn’t also have a liquor department or an ethnic meat counter. But cross the line into Indiana, and it’s a whole different retail world — gas stations, smoke shops, grocery stores.

Our fine public servants would do better if they spent more time considering how their own insane and burdensome tax policies have damaged not only people lives, but also the economies of their jurisdiction, and spend less time finding out ways to threaten free consumers or turn them into criminals.


44 posted on 02/25/2009 7:55:59 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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To: mkcc30
An effective way of controlling populations is to make them all criminals and then using selective enforcement to punish “enemies” of the state.
45 posted on 02/25/2009 7:57:04 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: ozark hilljilly

Remove the plastic covering that has the stamp on it and throw it away before you leave the state.


46 posted on 02/25/2009 7:59:32 AM PST by JenB987
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To: ozark hilljilly; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; ..

Nanny State PING!!!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 02/25/2009 8:01:29 AM PST by Gabz
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To: JenB987
I'm sure they make that a misdemeanor shortly.
48 posted on 02/25/2009 8:04:19 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: Dasaji

I saw a sign like that in North Carolina a couple years back, driving home from vacation. We stopped at a tobacco outlet where cartons and rolls of chewing tobacco were half the price as here in PA. We bought cartons and rolls for us and for our friends back home, but stopped at an ATM to get money out instead of using our debit card.


49 posted on 02/25/2009 8:05:29 AM PST by JenB987
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To: ozark hilljilly

Is it less risky criminally to smoke pot?


50 posted on 02/25/2009 8:06:41 AM PST by lonestar
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