2008 Presidential, with the proper red=Communist rodent; blue=GOP color scheme (sorry, kids, me no use media newsspeak. I know what red means).
Posted on 02/26/2009 9:07:21 PM PST by BenLurkin
The revolution will begin in Visalia – and it will be led by a man named Maze.
As in Bill Maze, a termed-out Assembly member turned rebel who is pushing for California to split in two: the conservative interior as one state and the liberal coast as another.
"We're looking at establishing a breakaway state," he said, with a new government and a new capital. "We'd actually be creating a 51st state."
He is tapping into the anger of farmers and others who say environmental rules and high taxes are sending the state into a tailspin.
"Citizens of our once 'Golden State' are frustrated and desperately concerned about the imposition of burdensome regulations, taxation, fees, fees and more fees, and bureaucratic intrusion into our daily lives and businesses," declares downsizeca.org, the movement's Web site.
Under Maze's plan, 13 coastal counties from Los Angeles to Marin would split from the remaining 45 counties, which the Web site calls "the new revitalized California." To promote the idea, Maze has established a nonprofit group called Citizens for Saving California Farming Industries.
Meanwhile, Maze is selling the plan up and down the state, appearing on television and radio shows. With enough money and momentum, he hopes to put the question before the state's voters. According to the U.S. Constitution, Congress and the state Legislature would have to sign off.
Californians have tried to parcel the state 27 times before, with most attempts never getting far off the ground, said former Republican Assemblyman Stan Statham, who made the last serious attempt in the early 1990s.
The most famous secession movement came in 1941, when several counties in Northern California and southern Oregon tried to form the State of Jefferson – until World War II intervened.
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...don’t know ‘bout that other freeper, but i’ll take “libery”, even if it aint got no “t”...
True enough. In the past when we were being taxed unfaily there were those who didn't want a split. They advocated working w/ the governing powers to come to a peaceful conclusion. They were called Tories ;>)
US Constitution Article IV Section 3
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
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* to be lumped together with L.A.?
...I couldn’t imagine why. $^)
LOL, sort of like being lumped together with the city around 17 miles south of me, Tijuana
Do you get your cell phone number cloned much, by your “south-of-the-border” neighbors? Or have the local providers finally gotten ahead of that game?
2008 Presidential, with the proper red=Communist rodent; blue=GOP color scheme (sorry, kids, me no use media newsspeak. I know what red means).
I like that particular division best because of the cultural and economic similarities. People say this never works. This time it might. When, no longer if, we go bankrupt and into a nationwide depression what do we have to lose?
I don’t know of anyone with a cell phone who has had that problem.
Anyone in the world who uses a cell phone uses San Diego Technology, Qualcomm
Though San Diego went this time Dem not the norm.
Again, San Diego largest city in the U.S. with a Republican Mayor and 3 of our 5 congressmen are Conservative Republican.
San Diego also has the largest concentration of military in the world.
yes, a better fit.
Look at 2004 vs 2008 for a side by side comparison. Scary stuff...
28 more years and it's going to be an all-Commie red rodent third world hellhole.
Ping
Sounds good.
Of course we would have to send bonded exterminators to clean out Sacramento.
Marin is an incredible left wing elitist enclave.
We would have to block tv signals from Gay Frisco to prevent their lies from seeping out.
"Yo, Arnie. Wanna go down the fruit cellar with me, to say hello to Mother?"
There is a better chance that control of education, housing and public safety can be returned to local government than the state being split in two. After all, even Mexicans in LA County have issues with state government and could be persuaded to vote for regressions.
California should be split into 5 states, not 2 (the “state names” provided are descriptive, but hardly optimal):
1. State of Los Angeles, with all of L.A. County:
10.0 million pop in 2010, 45%-50% Hispanic, 10% black, 12%-15% Asian
16 electoral votes, 29.17% McCain 2008, 35.60% Bush 2004, 32.35% Bush 2000
2. State of San Francisco Bay, with all of Alameda, Contra Costa, Humboldt, Marin, Mendocino, Monterey, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma and Yolo Counties:
8.1 million pop in 2010, 21%-25% Hispanic, 7% black, 17%-20% Asian
13 electoral votes, 24.82% McCain in 2008, 29.95% Bush in 2004, 30.64% Bush in 2000
3. State of Inland Empire, with all of Kern, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura Counties:
6.7 million pop in 2010, 36%-40% Hispanic, 6% black, 4%-5% Asian
11 electoral votes, 46.79% McCain in 2008, 55.54% Bush in 2004, 50.70% Bush in 2000
4. State of Central Valley, with all of Alpine, Amador, Butte, Calaveras, Colusa, Del Norte, El Dorado, Fresno, Glenn, Inyo, Kings, Lake, Lassen, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Modoc, Mono, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Benito, San Joaquin, Shasta, Sierra, Siskiyou, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tehama, Trinity, Tulare, Tuolumne and Yuba Counties:
6.5 million pop in 2010, 27%-32% Hispanic, 5% black, 7%-8% Asian
11 electoral votes, 48.27% McCain in 2008, 56.92% Bush in 2004, 53.17% Bush in 2000
5. State of San Diego, with all of Imperial, Orange and San Diego Counties:
6.3 million pop in 2010, 30%-35% Hispanic, 4% black, 11%-13% Asian
11 electoral votes, 47.07% McCain in 2008, 55.86% Bush in 2004, 52.57% Bush in 2000
Essentially, comfortably Democrat California would be converted into two ridiculously Democrat states (based in L.A. and San Francisco Bay) and three GOP-leaning states, and under normal circumstances the 5 states would give the GOP a 6-4 edge in U.S. Senate seats (the Dems have had a 2-0 edge since 1992) and a 33-29 edge in electoral votes (the Dems got all 55 EVs from CA in 2008 and 2004 and all 54 EVs from CA in 2000, 1996 and 1992).
We should also split Texas up into four GOP states, which would give us 6 new GOP Senators (and increase GOP electoral votes by 6 as well).
I recall reading somewhere that at the time of the American Revolution, something like 50% of the population remained loyal to the British crown. Of the 50% who supported the revolution, only a minority actually engaged in the actual warfare and liberation of the country.
The American population appears to be similarly split today. Apparently the descendants of the Minutemen and the Founders are at places like FR. We're the ones who are going to man the battle lines when the second revolution starts.
And the loyalists of today will benefit from our sacrifice (whether they "get it" or not), just as they did 232 years ago.
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