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U.S. to yield marijuana jurisdiction to states
SFGATE.COM ^

Posted on 02/27/2009 11:44:36 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL

(02-26) 20:00 PST San Francisco -- U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is sending strong signals that President Obama - who as a candidate said states should be allowed to make their own rules on medical marijuana - will end raids on pot dispensaries in California.

Asked at a Washington news conference Wednesday about Drug Enforcement Administration raids in California since Obama took office last month, Holder said the administration has changed its policy.

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As much as I applaud this, I find it funny that the band of socialist bastards in DC will embrace states rights for this but for not much else.

Break out those tea bags. I smell a revolution coming if Obama continues to inject his socialist ways into America.

1 posted on 02/27/2009 11:44:37 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Perhaps the states can allow farmers to raise industrial hemp, too.


2 posted on 02/27/2009 11:45:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

The whole stopped clock analogy IMO.


3 posted on 02/27/2009 11:45:57 AM PST by allmost
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Hey, at least its balanced by the Neo-Cons who want states’ rights for everything BUT this.


4 posted on 02/27/2009 11:46:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

The blue states will probably legalize shortly. Easier to control stoned people than rational people.


5 posted on 02/27/2009 11:46:40 AM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

a lot of the mexico issues have to do with pot smuggling. if it becomes legal in the US, thats a good thing isnt it?


6 posted on 02/27/2009 11:46:53 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Wolfie

Good One!!


7 posted on 02/27/2009 11:47:44 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The best rope in the world!


8 posted on 02/27/2009 11:48:01 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: allmost

Bingo he has to do something right by accident, it’s the odds.


9 posted on 02/27/2009 11:48:26 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: allmost

I liked the stopped clock analogy!

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day!

And our government sure is broken these days.


10 posted on 02/27/2009 11:48:46 AM PST by mountaineer1997
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Yes we Cannabis!


11 posted on 02/27/2009 11:48:53 AM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Good! I’m no fan of maryjawoonah myself, but I AM a big fan of States’ rights and ending the drug war.


12 posted on 02/27/2009 11:50:57 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Jesus and the Apostles were Sola Scriptura)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Liberals use the states right argument when it suits their philosophical inclinations. Conservatives do likewise. Nothing new here.


13 posted on 02/27/2009 11:51:25 AM PST by mono
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To: mountaineer1997

Take the few accidentally rational actions. Sprinkle them with some kind bud right? /s :)


14 posted on 02/27/2009 11:51:34 AM PST by allmost
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To: txnativegop

I don’t care as long as I don’t pay for it.

Let the Obama supporters smoke. Tax the hell out of them; it’s the only way we’ll get any money out of them.


15 posted on 02/27/2009 11:51:52 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

as I stated before, I don’t use drugs and can’t stand the smell of pot but I saw tax the stuff. The war on drugs has been a failure and we waste billions of dollars on it when it can be used on more important things. And just think of all the revenue that would come from selling it just from NBA players alone!


16 posted on 02/27/2009 11:52:43 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: mono

Some. I am about as conservative as it comes. And I favor this move.

Now tax the pot-smoking Obama voters.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 11:52:49 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: beebuster2000

The tough part will be for the DEA and the forest service that have to go clean up Mexican run grows in the national forests in states that legalize pot.


18 posted on 02/27/2009 11:53:26 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: txnativegop
The blue states will probably legalize shortly. Easier to control stoned people than rational people.

Sure, we all recall how easy the hippies and the anti government radicals were to control in the 60s...It's not like they, for good or bad, questioned authority and government at every turn.

Right...

19 posted on 02/27/2009 11:54:04 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: txnativegop

“Easier to control stoned people than rational people”

exactly


20 posted on 02/27/2009 11:54:13 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
as I stated before, I don’t use drugs and can’t stand the smell of pot but I saw tax the stuff. The war on drugs has been a failure and we waste billions of dollars on it when it can be used on more important things. And just think of all the revenue that would come from selling it just from NBA players alone!

Can you imagine how many police agencies would have to hold fire sales if we ended the drug war? Shoot, they'd have to sell of those purdy new "drug boats"!

21 posted on 02/27/2009 11:54:53 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Jesus and the Apostles were Sola Scriptura)
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To: dragnet2

I am very conservative, but think pot legalization makes total legal AND economic sense. Quit putting small time pot smokers in jail and start generating some revenue. It’s a win-win.


22 posted on 02/27/2009 11:55:38 AM PST by Free America52 (I just want it to be the way it always has been.)
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To: dragnet2

they were thought to be a joke back then, at least at the start. Conservatives of the day were not inclined to be harsh to these people.

Obama on the other hand is a wanna be dictator, he won’t hesitate to use the police and other methods to control these idiots.


23 posted on 02/27/2009 11:56:41 AM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Is it illegal to grow hemp in the USA? It’s allowed in most of the world. Biggest problem hemp farmers in Canada have is that their crops get stolen by people who think they’ll get high...


24 posted on 02/27/2009 11:57:59 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: beebuster2000; Blood of Tyrants

It’s true. Pot is their most profitable export.

There are a great many products that can be derived from hemp. (including ethanol fuel)

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html


25 posted on 02/27/2009 11:59:34 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Here, have a joint, it's legal!
Um, we'll be taking your guns now, that ok?
Um, and getting rid of that pesky constitution thing too.
What?
Your to high to notice?
Good...
26 posted on 02/27/2009 12:00:10 PM PST by captnemo1
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To: beebuster2000
The Mexican cartels will continue smuggle cocaine, meth, and heroin.

This is going to be a policy change of non-enforcement, not a law change. Dope clubs, like the ones in California, will continue to live on the fringe of legality. The clubs will not be targeted, but where does the supply come from?

27 posted on 02/27/2009 12:00:34 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Squawk 8888

Wasn’t there some effort by the Bush admin to block hemp products from coming into the US?


28 posted on 02/27/2009 12:01:06 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: edzo4
LOL!
29 posted on 02/27/2009 12:01:09 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: edzo4

That is funny. Thanks for the laugh.


30 posted on 02/27/2009 12:02:52 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: txnativegop
they were thought to be a joke back then, at least at the start. Conservatives of the day were not inclined to be harsh to these people.

I don't think you were alive back then. Conservatives of the day as you say, for the most part, were suckers believing every word the government told them.

Most of those people still around today, have made an abrupt about face regarding government, haven't they?

31 posted on 02/27/2009 12:04:42 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: USNBandit

If it’s legal we can grow our own. The the feds can concentrate on the really dangerous drugs. By the way, I don’t smoke myself.... but I used to!!


32 posted on 02/27/2009 12:06:21 PM PST by refermech
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To: dragnet2

Quite a few of them have, yes.


33 posted on 02/27/2009 12:07:31 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: USNBandit
The clubs will not be targeted, but where does the supply come from?

Most of these clubs grow their own.

34 posted on 02/27/2009 12:08:09 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"Tax the hell out of them; it’s the only way we’ll get any money out of them"

What right do you think you have to take that which belongs to others?


35 posted on 02/27/2009 12:10:03 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: txnativegop

as much as I detest drugs, maybe the silver lining is if all the RATS are doped up all the time, they will completely stop voting. Maybe we can take back the country and turn it back into a Constitutional Republic based on Liberty and Personal Responsibility.


36 posted on 02/27/2009 12:10:09 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: rigelkentaurus

Here is an additional up side: if the Dems stay stoned all the time, the farmers are going to have to grow bumper crops of everything just to handle their munchies!!!!! Good for the economy!


37 posted on 02/27/2009 12:12:09 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Wolfie

Excellent point!


38 posted on 02/27/2009 12:12:59 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: I see my hands

“What right do you think you have to take that which belongs to others?”

Well, since I pay far more than my share of taxes (the top 25% of tax payers pays 110% of the tax burden -— because the botton get outright payments -— NEGATIVE taxes), I would like the bottom-dweller to pay at least some of their share.

Now, it is an assumption of mine that the beneficiaries of Lord Obama’s tax giveaways are also pot smokers, but I bet I am right.


39 posted on 02/27/2009 12:19:00 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: dragnet2

It’s hard to keep straight, isn’t it. Either an axe-wielding homicidal maniac bent on violence, or a Cheeto’s eating couch potato. I wish they’d make up their minds.


40 posted on 02/27/2009 12:19:27 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: refermech
There is one small problem with the idea of anybody growing their own pot. The Attorney General didn't say he was going to change the law. That would take an act of Congress. He is stating policy, which can change as soon as the next Administration comes in. In essence the Attorney General is saying the federal government isn't going to enforce the laws that are in U.S. Code.

People that produce the pot, traffic the pot, sell the pot at the "dispensaries" will still be breaking federal law, they just won't have to worry about guys in raid jackets breaking down their doors, for a while. Simply put this is the drug version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and a complete cop out by the Administration

It will be interesting how a state like California deals with this limbo status. Are those "coffee shops" taxed specifically on dope sales or gross receipts. I'm sure California would like a bigger cut of that pie, since they already have state legislators talking about the increase in revenue from taxing pot. Can a state find itself in a legal bind trying to tax something that is effectively still a federal criminal enterprise.

Just something for the academic side of this discussion. Personally, I don't care what people do in their homes. When they peddle it on the streets, sell it to kids, and drive under the influence, I get pretty intolerant. I also reserve the right to not employ or work with anybody that does drugs. They aren't known for their peak performance anymore than alcohol abusers.

41 posted on 02/27/2009 12:21:53 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Wolfie
Either an axe-wielding homicidal maniac bent on violence, or a Cheeto’s eating couch potato.

Laundry must be a bitch for them - having to get both blood AND orange Chee-toh dust off your shirts.

42 posted on 02/27/2009 12:23:17 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Gee... This takes all the fun out of being a compassionate-conservative. I’m going to miss arresting the sick, dying, and lame. And they were so-o-o easy to catch.


43 posted on 02/27/2009 12:24:48 PM PST by Lexington Green (Obama's DNA glistens on Chris Matthews' chin)
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To: USNBandit

I agree with your take on this but I think that if a state loosens the controls for pot it will be a defacto legalization because they won’t put any resources into busting people. All in all I think it would be OK for the country as a whole.


44 posted on 02/27/2009 12:27:19 PM PST by refermech
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To: Califreak

45 posted on 02/27/2009 12:27:52 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: rigelkentaurus

maybe the silver lining is if all the RATS are doped up all the time, they will completely stop voting.
_______

LOL. How’d that work for you in the 2008 elections. Anyone wanting to smoke pot can find it already.

And this absurd notion that it is only Ds getting high just kills me.


46 posted on 02/27/2009 12:29:19 PM PST by dmz
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To: Lexington Green

LOL your tagline is horrible but funny.


47 posted on 02/27/2009 12:30:07 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Wolfie

On the other thread on this topic, pot smokers are compared to necrophiliacs.

So, after we axe murder folks, we have sex with their dead bodies, and having then worked up some serious munchies, sit on the couch eating Cheetos.


48 posted on 02/27/2009 12:31:22 PM PST by dmz
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To: MeanWestTexan
Okay, no right. But you've got the same rationalizations all thieves do. Now let's say you intend to take what's mine and I don't want you to. What are you going to do about it?

49 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:41 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Perhaps the states can allow farmers to raise industrial hemp, too.”

no that’s too capitalist and doesn’t turn people into mindless zombies.


50 posted on 02/27/2009 12:41:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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