Mexico: U.S. Must Stop Gun Trade At Border

Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda (aka "CBS News") ^ | Feb. 28, 2009 | (CBS/AP)

[LeoWindhorse]

I’ve heard that the great majority of the hardcore arms are coming from China , maybe via Venezuela . Why is no one mentioning this ? Look for them coming through Mexican ports
on ships from those countries , not out of gun shops in the USA . Full auto AK’s do not originate in the States .

[philman_36]

Here is the "survey"...2009 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report
2009 INCSR: Country Reports - Honduras through Mexico
II. Status of Country
Snip...Cross border linkages developed by drug cartels are used to move drugs into the U.S. and to bring guns into Mexico. U.S.-purchased or stolen firearms account for an estimated 95 percent of the country’s drug-related killings.

Mexican incursions are symptoms of a growing anarchy along our border by Rep. Tom Tancredo February 3, 2006
The reaction of the Mexican government to the reports of the incident was predictable -- a mixture of denial, confusion and evasion. At first, they said that there are no Humvees in the arsenal of the Mexican military in that region and that the smugglers were using stolen military equipment and uniforms. Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Derbez had the chutzpah to say the smugglers may have been U.S. military disguised as Mexicans.

The US Arms Both Sides of Mexico's Drug War
Mexican narcotraffickers and other criminals easily obtain their firepower north of the border. Effectively reducing the flow of illegal arms would mean tightening laws on gun sales and ownership in the US. (check the date below)
Snip...It was not the first time Mexico had protested the flow of weapons. For several years now, that government has pointed out that Mexican drug cartels (and other criminals) are getting their arms north of the border; for several years, Mexico City has asked that Washington take effective steps to address this issue.
Snip...Many of the arms used by Mexico's insurgencies were supplied by Washington either through massive military aid programs or as part of US covert operations that left enormous arsenals behind.

That last link was dated Summer 1997, when the Assault Weapons Ban was in effect.
Yeah, the weapons are U.S.-purchased or stolen firearms. Purchased by the Mexican government in legal arms sales from the US and then stolen from the same Mexican government. A licensed gun dealer in the US isn't going to risk his livelihood by selling weapons to suspect customers. They're already under enough scrutiny.

[philman_36]

Based upon my previous post, don't you find it ironic that after ten years the same problems still exist?
There are some great problem solvers in D.C., aren't there.

[TYVets]

Based upon my previous post, don't you find it ironic that after ten years the same problems still exist?

There are some great problem solvers in D.C., aren't there.

There are problem solvers in DC ?

The only ones I have heard of want to keep the problem ongoing, it is called job security.

"I am here from DC and I am here to help you." This phase should carry a warning label.

[philman_36]

Mexican cartels often pay U.S. citizens to purchase assault rifles or other guns at gun shops, then sell them to a cartel representative at a U.S. gun show, where registration rules are much less stringent and the gun sale can't be easily traced.
An international ploy to reenact the AWB or even more onerous laws. The report is dated 02/27/09 and Holder's call for a new AWB was 2/25/09.
He got the report a day or two in advance and pushed the button hoping the report would give him some impetus.
Saran Wrap! Transparency in government!
Anyone with half a brain can see right through this one.

[philman_36]

I knew I should've put an /sarcasm there!

[upsdriver]

We need to start trading ammo at the border.

[SERE_DOC]

Please let me know where one can buy machine guns, missile launchers, etc in the USA without special licensing.

You asked

Where else but........

Target?

(I am truly sorry for that, but I just had to.)

[NoLibZone]

To make other nations safe we must give up or rights?

First execute every democrat wait ten years then re assess.

[Ken H]

Drug prohibition motivates organized crime, the same as alcohol prohibition did. If drugs weren't prohibited in the US, the business case for the Mexican gangs would be essentially eliminated.

Agreed. If marijuana alone were regulated like alcohol, it would be a severe blow to the cartels. It is THE money maker:

John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said marijuana, not heroin or cocaine, is the "bread and butter," "the center of gravity" for Mexican drug cartels that every year smuggle tons of it through the porous U.S.-Mexico border. Of the $13.8 billion that Americans contributed to Mexican drug traffickers in 2004-05, about 62 percent, or $8.6 billion, comes from marijuana consumption.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022208dnintdrugs.3a98bb0.html

[TYVets]

I understood where you were coming from, you did just fine.

I just checked, I didn't put /sarcasm after my reply.

Since Jan 20, 2009 perhaps we should just do away with /s and just assume it is a given on all replies.

[TYVets]

Cartels turn to the U.S. because Mexico's gun laws are relatively restrictive.

A little money and nothing in Mexico is restrictive.

Mexico is more corrupt than Chicago,,,, well maybe

[BlessingsofLiberty]

I think if a little research was done on this, one would find most of the weaponry is Chinese.

Missile launchers, machine guns and grenades haven’t been popular around my neighborhood in years....

What a bunch of garbage...

[mrmeangenes]

That IS pretty outrageous !!

Think of the damage taking such a claim seriously could do to gunshops !

[Army Air Corps]

Claro que si.

[Army Air Corps]

Please write your best snarky comments in their Comments section below the article.

[Army Air Corps]

Mock the idiot writer/writers in the Comments section. Time to call these folks on the obvious holes in their arguments.

[Paladin2]

Fried Chicken And Gasoline?

[mad_as_he$$]

GI Joe version?

[libertyhoundusnr]

Here we have some folks with mucho billions in cash on hand. Then we have some folks representing Norinco and several other weapons manufacturers with offices right there in Mexico. The last part is we have a total idiot Holder telling us that the Mexican drug lords are buying guns at US gun shows. I was at the gun show in Biloxi yesterday. Didn’t notice any grenades or rocket launchers for sale. Actually in spite of the buying panic that seems to have taken the rest of the country, here in MS prices were actually about the same as they were awhile back but there was less ammo available.