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'Pretty sad' Limbaugh's the lead GOP voice: Ron Paul
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Posted on 03/02/2009 12:03:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver

'Pretty sad' Limbaugh's the lead GOP voice: Ron Paul @ 2:13 pm by Michael O'Brien

It is pretty sad that conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh has become the de-facto voice of the Republican Party, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Monday.

"I think it’s pretty sad," Paul said during an appearance on CNN Monday morning. "And it means that the Republicans are really starving for some type of leadership."

"He really didn’t broaden the base," the former Republican presidential candidate told the network's John Roberts. "I mean, it’s still very narrow, and that is why some of us would like to see an approach that would emphasize personal liberties and civil liberties."

Limbaugh's speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this past weekend has been the subject of much discussion on the left and the right, with a number of Republican leaders (such as Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele) sounding off on Limbaugh's role and influence within the GOP.

"I think a lot of people like to hear what he’s saying, but I think it’s also a little bit polarizing and confrontational, and I think that’s why the Democrats are bragging that Limbaugh now speaks for the Republicans," Paul added. "So I guess the Democrats think it’s to their advantage if he’s leading the charge."

The Texas Republican also indicated there was little chance he would rekindle his presidential bid in 2012, opting instead to focus on his "Campaign for Liberty" fund.


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KEYWORDS: gop; limbaugh; paulistinians; preciousbodilyfluids; ronpaul; rush; rushlimbaugh; talkradio
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To: Sub-Driver
I think a lot of people like to hear what he’s saying, but I think it’s also a little bit polarizing and confrontational,

The truth oftentimes does have that effect on those that would rather just go along to get along.

Hey, Paul...

You''re not a republican and you shouldn't try to speak for republicans. You're just using the "R" label to get elected because your "libertarian" label doesn't get you too far.

On the other hand, Rush is a true republican and a conservative in the Reagan tradition. If Reagan was alive today, you, Mr Paul, and many modern day republicans would be running away from him and labeling him as polarizing and confrontational.

So, go away Ron and let the true conservatives speak for the republicans. You are not it. Rush is.
101 posted on 03/02/2009 12:45:14 PM PST by adorno
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To: dirtboy

Ok, using your strategy, we have a Congress of about 3 people on our side right now. We’ve thrown out the rest for being hypocrites. You sure like doing things the hard way.


102 posted on 03/02/2009 12:46:07 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: lakertaker

I disagree. Most Libertarians I have known favor making legal acts like abortion, assisted suicide, using dope (many kinds), homosexuality and a number of personal activities Conservatives believe are detrimental to society and should not be legal.


103 posted on 03/02/2009 12:47:59 PM PST by FFranco (To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Ron Paul the Savior of the 9/11 “Truthers”(AKA whack jobs of the Earth) the ole doc needs to head home and keep his mouth shut He was part of this problem just GO Away.
104 posted on 03/02/2009 12:51:10 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: ejonesie22

ping 81, more quotes from the interview


105 posted on 03/02/2009 12:51:29 PM PST by mnehring (!!!!!!!SHRUG!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, I just sent an email to the RNC telling them to remove me from their rolls and then called Mr. Steele’s office to let them know why.

I know..I know...I was one of those saying give Mr. Steele a chance a few weeks back..blahblahblah. But I’m done now.

We might as well have this fight now with the ‘socialist enablers’ in our own party. Better to get rid of them now..than wait for crunch time.

I suggest my fellow conservatives send the message now!

http://www.gop.com/Connect/ContactUs.htm

Perhaps they will come to their senses before it is too late.


107 posted on 03/02/2009 12:51:51 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s unfortunate that Paul and Steele decided to play right into the Whitehouse game plan here.

It’s a joke.

Pelosi/Reid/Obama are the main problems facing our country.


108 posted on 03/02/2009 12:52:55 PM PST by surfer
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To: FFranco
I disagree. Most Libertarians I have known favor making legal acts like abortion, assisted suicide, using dope (many kinds), homosexuality and a number of personal activities Conservatives believe are detrimental to society and should not be legal.

So what? All are state issues under a federalist system. Libertarians and conservatives both support federalism. Bury the hatchet while you fight the common enemy of centralized government, and then battle them in your states when you disagree about abortion or drugs, where the battles belong.

109 posted on 03/02/2009 12:54:54 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

yeah we need to open it up to Truthers and white supremacists /sarc


110 posted on 03/02/2009 12:55:42 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: LottieDah

People like Ron Paul, Michael Steele, Joe Scarborough and all the rest who have bad-mouthed Rush would no doubt be tripping over each other to shake his hand at a public function. They’re all hypocrites.


111 posted on 03/02/2009 12:57:19 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Sir Gawain
Ok, using your strategy, we have a Congress of about 3 people on our side right now. We’ve thrown out the rest for being hypocrites. You sure like doing things the hard way.

I have a younger friend who is a liberal and now is an admirer of Tom Coburn - mainly because of Coburn's integrity. People are sick of the same-old, same-old and hunger for honest leadership. Most of the members of Congress in BOTH parties are the problem - if we don't clean up the GOP and they get back into power, we'll just get more of their same old nonsense

We can only take back our country by creating a new class of politics with an emphasis on not treating taxpayers as piggy banks for political games. You can never get rid of it entirely, but the Mandarin class has gotten out of hand. The key coalition IMO will be blue dogs and conservatives, with common ground on honesty, integrity in politics, national security and restoration of the BoR - especially the 2nd and 10th Amendments.

Paul fails the integrity and national security tests. He can go make funny noises off on the sidelines, where he has been his entire career, and attract a following of antiwar wingnuts.

112 posted on 03/02/2009 12:58:03 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sub-Driver

Is this really a dump on Rush? I think it’s sad, too, that all we have for leadership is a guy who is not a candidate or one of our official party executives!


113 posted on 03/02/2009 12:58:04 PM PST by Mamzelle (Boycott Peggy Swoonin')
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To: FFranco
Well, abortion is already legal. Pot should be legalized. If you are at your end and have terminal cancer, it is your business, not the governments, to engage in assisted suicide. That's different than euthanasia. Homosexuality; it's not mine or your business what two adults do in the privacy of their own homes. Having said that, gay marriage should be left up to states, not judges, and since the voters of each state chose to not recognize gay marriage then their wishes need to be upheld since there is no constitutional right to marriage, anyways.

Some of the social issues are what separate Libertarians from conservatives but we both believe in limited, constitutional government, low taxes, sound money, free speech, second amendment rights, state rights.

Reagan never considered libertarians the enemy.

114 posted on 03/02/2009 12:58:14 PM PST by lakertaker (Still clinging bitterly to my guns and religion)
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To: Sub-Driver

I love the way Rush can scare the bloomers off these guys!! But, I give the dems credit for party unity. They may have in-house fighting but they march together when necessary. On the other side, we have the republicans and we have the conservatives and I don’t see us ever getting together. I just happened to flip across the DL Hughly show with Steel. It was disgusting. He’s got a little power and a few invitations, so he’s gone way over the edge. He shouldn’t waste party time going on shows with libs who will back you into a corner and verbally beat on you. There is no logic to the actions of the republican leaders. I don’t think I can take these apologists for eight years. Is there a person who will stand up and say “screw you” and not play to the popularity polls?


115 posted on 03/02/2009 1:03:35 PM PST by peridot
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To: DTogo

I think the problem is that a radio talk show host is the best voice the Republicans have. One would hope such a voice came from a congresscritter or other political figure.


116 posted on 03/02/2009 1:06:16 PM PST by antiRepublicrat (Sacred cows make the best hamburger.)
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To: Sub-Driver

One pubbie you wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with. Mr. Paul, put a sock in it.


117 posted on 03/02/2009 1:06:21 PM PST by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: AmericanHunter
It is not a slam at Rush but says something about the lack of conservative leaders in the rebublican party.

Great minds think alike here. Where is our elected leader that espouses our conservative values in the convincing confident manner presented by Rush? I was hoping Eric Cantor would rise to the occasion but he ended up being a sniveling little pro-bail-out punk. I like Bobby Jindal but he definitely came across like a hall monitor in his GOP response. Rush is the only one on the national scene who really gets it.

118 posted on 03/02/2009 1:06:33 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: dirtboy

I think the key strategy will be to convince a majority of liberals that federalism is the system they want as well. NO ONE argues against local control of schools and money, even the all black barber shop I frequent. They’re federalists and they just don’t know it.


119 posted on 03/02/2009 1:07:29 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: peridot
It's called “D.C. itis.” It's a disease that affects all those who go to DC. It's what makes you run as a conservative/libertarian and govern as a liberal. It's an affliction that makes you believe that all that's wonderful comes from DC and that you have all the answers to life's problems. It affects the mind in that it makes you believe that the money from taxpayers is all yours to do as you please
120 posted on 03/02/2009 1:07:44 PM PST by lakertaker (Still clinging bitterly to my guns and religion)
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To: antiRepublicrat
It clearly proves that the RNC does not agree with Rush, and are in it for the Party and for themselves.

Screw 'em!

121 posted on 03/02/2009 1:08:30 PM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“One would hope such a voice came from a congresscritter or other political figure.”

Such a voice would have TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in lib, union, and overseas foriegn money directed at him in his home district in about nothing flat. Add in the 24/7 attacks by a hate-filled and biased liberal media.

That’s a tough wall for ANY politician to stand against.

Rush can do it PRECISELY because he is not a politician, and he has nothing to lose. IN FACT, it HELPS him when the Dems focus on him, driving up his ratings.


122 posted on 03/02/2009 1:10:07 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: lakertaker
It's a disease that affects all those who go to DC. It's what makes you run as a conservative/libertarian and govern as a liberal.

Precisely the reason we need to start a campaign to convince state legislatures (conservative AND liberal) to reaffirm the 10th Amendment and choke the federal beast. State legislatures should be where the real power is, not the Godfather doling out money from DC.

How hard would it be really to convince a state legislature that it needs more power instead of the fedgov? It would be a bipartisan movement.

123 posted on 03/02/2009 1:12:57 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: xcamel

Re: Post #8.....Amen!


124 posted on 03/02/2009 1:13:44 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Sub-Driver
I did not read the article or the comments but I agree with the headline.

It is sad that the Republicans and/or RNC does not have a leader and that people have to look to Rush to fill the void.

125 posted on 03/02/2009 1:13:51 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: SuperLuminal

:-)


126 posted on 03/02/2009 1:14:12 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Sub-Driver

And THIS — is the very reason I didn’t (and wouldn’t) support Ron Paul. One can’t alienate ALL other Conservatives just to serve his own quixotic crusade.


127 posted on 03/02/2009 1:14:21 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Professor_Leonide

Doesn’t this idiot have a Star Trek convention to speak at or something?


128 posted on 03/02/2009 1:15:01 PM PST by jyoders19
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To: DTogo
It clearly proves that the RNC does not agree with Rush, and are in it for the Party and for themselves.

That's my point, the party doesn't agree with Rush, and the people obviously agree with Rush, not the party.

This goes back to my screen name, which comes from Washington's farewell address where he warned about parties serving themselves instead of the people.

129 posted on 03/02/2009 1:17:29 PM PST by antiRepublicrat (Sacred cows make the best hamburger.)
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To: Sub-Driver

To be fair I saw that interview, and Ron wasn’t dumping on rush; it was a misleading (probably purposely) headline..

He was asked that in the context of Rush being a “leader of the Republican Party” rather than legislators...

Ron said that Rush has some good ideas, but Wolf Blitzer kind of did a “loaded question” to try to get him to say something.


130 posted on 03/02/2009 1:19:21 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Sub-Driver

Was it the Republican National Convention that Rush was speaking to in his address? You’d think so. Sorry your idiots...he spoke to CPAC....Got that? CPAC


131 posted on 03/02/2009 1:19:57 PM PST by veritas2002
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To: Sub-Driver; All

DID ANY OF YOU ALL ACTUALLY WATCH THE INTERVIEW? Or is this just a sensational jump on RON PAUL Thread..


132 posted on 03/02/2009 1:21:55 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh please, not this guy again.


133 posted on 03/02/2009 1:25:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: DarthVader

134 posted on 03/02/2009 1:26:12 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Sub-Driver

Ron Paul really didn’t dump on Rush so much as lament the fact that there are no strong conservatives emerging as leaders. We all (well, most of us) love Rush but he’s not running for political office. Palin and Jindal are being targeted early by the msm/dnc/rinos and those coordinated attacks do have an effect. Rush is taking those slings and arrows for now but like I said, he’s not running for office.


135 posted on 03/02/2009 1:27:53 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Sub-Driver
Pretty sad when a far right nut case is bashing Rush. The truth is all these people are pissed, just like they are about Sarah, because it isn't them in the limelight, it isn't them getting the applause and standing ovations from conservatives.

Steele, Cantor, McCalin(in the case of Sarah) and now Ron Paul. All whiney Rush and Sarah wannabees and they can't handle his popularity.

The GOP thinks they can get along without the conservative base although 2006 and 2008 proved them dead wrong, yet they scream like squashed pu**ies when someone like Rush or Sarah comes along and energizes that very base they claim they don't need anymore.

As for me, I am becoming independent and waiting for the Tea Party to be formed into THE new Political party of conservatives.

136 posted on 03/02/2009 1:36:06 PM PST by calex59
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To: PISANO

I used to find Rush a little too “over-the-top” for my taste even though I found myself agreeing with his point-of-view WAY more often than not, it’s not often that I listen to him even nowadays though.

However, if one reads even one book of his, they will understand him, and his on-air style completely. It seems that those who vilify Rush are scared of his ability to capture “our side” of the arguments versus liberal policies and put it in terms that are VERY easy to understand, and get people excited. Rush’s opponents see this as a threat because, well, they should. He stands between them and their ability to transform the U.S. into a Communist nation ala Chavez. The liberals can’t be so bold as Chavez, so instead they must attack people (like the media) in the public discourse, and they seek to nullify his effects this way vs. removing him in some other way. He’s also too well-known to “dispatch” as some leaders in history have done to vocal opponents.

This really has no so much to do with Rush, but rather as a means to demoralize US (conservatives). It’s what they (Socialists/Communists/Democrats) did with Bush, and it is what they are doing with Rush now.

What’s very disturbing is that it does seem that there are those within the GOP, and those who claim to be Conservatives that really aren’t and it seems they control the Republican Party. It’s as if there are two parties in Washington, but it’s not as it appears to be - split down “R & D” lines.


137 posted on 03/02/2009 1:36:30 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: GBA
I appreciate Ron Paul’s Constitutionally based approach to issues. It’s too bad he’s an idiot the rest of the time.

DITTO. (pun intended)

138 posted on 03/02/2009 1:38:28 PM PST by TADSLOS (Come and Take it!)
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To: adorno

Ron Paul was one of the few who supported Reagan against Ford in 1976.


139 posted on 03/02/2009 2:36:12 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: ravingnutter

LOL!!!! >;0)


140 posted on 03/02/2009 3:02:14 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: truthfreedom
Ron Paul was one of the few who supported Reagan against Ford in 1976.

Does that make Ron Paul a "Ronald Reagan" republican? I highly doubt it.
141 posted on 03/02/2009 3:16:23 PM PST by adorno
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To: mnehrling

IMHO, the people behind Obama picked McCain as the most beatable candidate. Remember when he was out and then back in the primaries? It happened here in Illinois when Glenn Poshard ran against Blagoyavich. How well did that turn out?


142 posted on 03/02/2009 5:01:32 PM PST by Thebaddog (Obama really did believe that stuff he was saying during the campaign)
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To: PogySailor
Like Pavlov’s dog, they dump on Rush when the MSM rings the bell.

Well.. this tells me they recognize two things about the voting population: 1. It's "celebrity-driven". One need only scan post counts at FR to see that's true (celebrities, personal scandals, missing children). 2. The population will now become far more sedentary resulting from lesser dollars - and that more people will find interactive time spent on line and reading (while the costs are yet low) or watching TV in contrast to people "going" to places (which costs more).

And, I think they hope that by targetting Rush, the MSM types can also derive profits from their "markets". Basically, what's happening happening is a "Bebop" event. The left I think is hoping the cluster formations (which will drive their revenue markets) will take place on line.

143 posted on 03/02/2009 5:13:19 PM PST by Alia
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To: adorno

Just saying that this statement

“If Reagan was alive today, you, Mr Paul ... would be running away from him and labeling him as polarizing and confrontational.”

is factually wrong.


144 posted on 03/02/2009 5:17:44 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Sub-Driver

wow. he is so fast to pick up and carry the leftwing water and parrot their meme of the day


145 posted on 03/02/2009 5:53:37 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: Sub-Driver
“dr.” paul appears to be one of those doctors who likes to sample his own pharmaceuticals.

LSD is not a safe alternative to Diazepam doc. You might want to lay off.

146 posted on 03/02/2009 6:00:26 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Professor_Leonide

And ron paul is a conservative, small government kind of person?

Why not ask him about all those earmarks he slips into spending bills such as research and marketing of wild shrimp or the earmark to renovate a privately owned movie theatre just to name two of the dozens of earmarks he slipped in last year’s budget.


147 posted on 03/02/2009 6:28:45 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Today we've discovered a force more powerful than luck or genius----stupidity.)
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To: dirtboy

Neville Paul has a nice ring to it.


148 posted on 03/02/2009 6:39:37 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Today we've discovered a force more powerful than luck or genius----stupidity.)
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To: truthfreedom
Just saying that this statement

“If Reagan was alive today, you, Mr Paul ... would be running away from him and labeling him as polarizing and confrontational.”

is factually wrong.


Ok, you got me.

So, go ahead and explain away.

How can you claim something to be "factually wrong" if the hypothetical situation has never or will never occur?

However, knowing that Ron Paul is not a true republican, I can make the claim that he would be labeling Reagan as "polarizing and confrontational". He's doing that now against other republicans and even democrats. Ron Paul tries to play on all sides and against all sides.

That's not to say that Ron Paul is wrong on everything; I like a lot of what he has to say about the economy and economic growth. But, he's not a true republican (yeah, I know, he's a libertarian) on many other issues.
149 posted on 03/02/2009 7:29:39 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

Fair enough.

There was a problem with my logic.

I guess the point I was trying to make was that many critics of Ron Paul fail to recognize that Ron Paul was one of only 4 Republican US Representatives to support Ronald Reagan over Gerald Ford in 1976.

The track record of Ron Paul supporting Reagan when very few Republicans did was the “fact” in factually, but yes, you are correct about the hypothetical.


150 posted on 03/02/2009 8:42:36 PM PST by truthfreedom
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