Skip to comments.'Pretty sad' Limbaugh's the lead GOP voice: Ron Paul
Posted on 03/02/2009 12:03:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver
'Pretty sad' Limbaugh's the lead GOP voice: Ron Paul @ 2:13 pm by Michael O'Brien
It is pretty sad that conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh has become the de-facto voice of the Republican Party, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Monday.
"I think its pretty sad," Paul said during an appearance on CNN Monday morning. "And it means that the Republicans are really starving for some type of leadership."
"He really didnt broaden the base," the former Republican presidential candidate told the network's John Roberts. "I mean, its still very narrow, and that is why some of us would like to see an approach that would emphasize personal liberties and civil liberties."
Limbaugh's speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) this past weekend has been the subject of much discussion on the left and the right, with a number of Republican leaders (such as Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele) sounding off on Limbaugh's role and influence within the GOP.
"I think a lot of people like to hear what hes saying, but I think its also a little bit polarizing and confrontational, and I think thats why the Democrats are bragging that Limbaugh now speaks for the Republicans," Paul added. "So I guess the Democrats think its to their advantage if hes leading the charge."
The Texas Republican also indicated there was little chance he would rekindle his presidential bid in 2012, opting instead to focus on his "Campaign for Liberty" fund.
Ok, using your strategy, we have a Congress of about 3 people on our side right now. We’ve thrown out the rest for being hypocrites. You sure like doing things the hard way.
I disagree. Most Libertarians I have known favor making legal acts like abortion, assisted suicide, using dope (many kinds), homosexuality and a number of personal activities Conservatives believe are detrimental to society and should not be legal.
ping 81, more quotes from the interview
Well, I just sent an email to the RNC telling them to remove me from their rolls and then called Mr. Steele’s office to let them know why.
I know..I know...I was one of those saying give Mr. Steele a chance a few weeks back..blahblahblah. But I’m done now.
We might as well have this fight now with the ‘socialist enablers’ in our own party. Better to get rid of them now..than wait for crunch time.
I suggest my fellow conservatives send the message now!
Perhaps they will come to their senses before it is too late.
It’s unfortunate that Paul and Steele decided to play right into the Whitehouse game plan here.
It’s a joke.
Pelosi/Reid/Obama are the main problems facing our country.
So what? All are state issues under a federalist system. Libertarians and conservatives both support federalism. Bury the hatchet while you fight the common enemy of centralized government, and then battle them in your states when you disagree about abortion or drugs, where the battles belong.
yeah we need to open it up to Truthers and white supremacists /sarc
People like Ron Paul, Michael Steele, Joe Scarborough and all the rest who have bad-mouthed Rush would no doubt be tripping over each other to shake his hand at a public function. They’re all hypocrites.
I have a younger friend who is a liberal and now is an admirer of Tom Coburn - mainly because of Coburn's integrity. People are sick of the same-old, same-old and hunger for honest leadership. Most of the members of Congress in BOTH parties are the problem - if we don't clean up the GOP and they get back into power, we'll just get more of their same old nonsense
We can only take back our country by creating a new class of politics with an emphasis on not treating taxpayers as piggy banks for political games. You can never get rid of it entirely, but the Mandarin class has gotten out of hand. The key coalition IMO will be blue dogs and conservatives, with common ground on honesty, integrity in politics, national security and restoration of the BoR - especially the 2nd and 10th Amendments.
Paul fails the integrity and national security tests. He can go make funny noises off on the sidelines, where he has been his entire career, and attract a following of antiwar wingnuts.
Is this really a dump on Rush? I think it’s sad, too, that all we have for leadership is a guy who is not a candidate or one of our official party executives!
Some of the social issues are what separate Libertarians from conservatives but we both believe in limited, constitutional government, low taxes, sound money, free speech, second amendment rights, state rights.
Reagan never considered libertarians the enemy.
I love the way Rush can scare the bloomers off these guys!! But, I give the dems credit for party unity. They may have in-house fighting but they march together when necessary. On the other side, we have the republicans and we have the conservatives and I don’t see us ever getting together. I just happened to flip across the DL Hughly show with Steel. It was disgusting. He’s got a little power and a few invitations, so he’s gone way over the edge. He shouldn’t waste party time going on shows with libs who will back you into a corner and verbally beat on you. There is no logic to the actions of the republican leaders. I don’t think I can take these apologists for eight years. Is there a person who will stand up and say “screw you” and not play to the popularity polls?
I think the problem is that a radio talk show host is the best voice the Republicans have. One would hope such a voice came from a congresscritter or other political figure.
One pubbie you wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with. Mr. Paul, put a sock in it.
Great minds think alike here. Where is our elected leader that espouses our conservative values in the convincing confident manner presented by Rush? I was hoping Eric Cantor would rise to the occasion but he ended up being a sniveling little pro-bail-out punk. I like Bobby Jindal but he definitely came across like a hall monitor in his GOP response. Rush is the only one on the national scene who really gets it.
I think the key strategy will be to convince a majority of liberals that federalism is the system they want as well. NO ONE argues against local control of schools and money, even the all black barber shop I frequent. They’re federalists and they just don’t know it.
“One would hope such a voice came from a congresscritter or other political figure.”
Such a voice would have TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in lib, union, and overseas foriegn money directed at him in his home district in about nothing flat. Add in the 24/7 attacks by a hate-filled and biased liberal media.
That’s a tough wall for ANY politician to stand against.
Rush can do it PRECISELY because he is not a politician, and he has nothing to lose. IN FACT, it HELPS him when the Dems focus on him, driving up his ratings.
Precisely the reason we need to start a campaign to convince state legislatures (conservative AND liberal) to reaffirm the 10th Amendment and choke the federal beast. State legislatures should be where the real power is, not the Godfather doling out money from DC.
How hard would it be really to convince a state legislature that it needs more power instead of the fedgov? It would be a bipartisan movement.
Re: Post #8.....Amen!
It is sad that the Republicans and/or RNC does not have a leader and that people have to look to Rush to fill the void.
And THIS — is the very reason I didn’t (and wouldn’t) support Ron Paul. One can’t alienate ALL other Conservatives just to serve his own quixotic crusade.
Doesn’t this idiot have a Star Trek convention to speak at or something?
That's my point, the party doesn't agree with Rush, and the people obviously agree with Rush, not the party.
This goes back to my screen name, which comes from Washington's farewell address where he warned about parties serving themselves instead of the people.
To be fair I saw that interview, and Ron wasn’t dumping on rush; it was a misleading (probably purposely) headline..
He was asked that in the context of Rush being a “leader of the Republican Party” rather than legislators...
Ron said that Rush has some good ideas, but Wolf Blitzer kind of did a “loaded question” to try to get him to say something.
Was it the Republican National Convention that Rush was speaking to in his address? You’d think so. Sorry your idiots...he spoke to CPAC....Got that? CPAC
DID ANY OF YOU ALL ACTUALLY WATCH THE INTERVIEW? Or is this just a sensational jump on RON PAUL Thread..
Oh please, not this guy again.
Ron Paul really didn’t dump on Rush so much as lament the fact that there are no strong conservatives emerging as leaders. We all (well, most of us) love Rush but he’s not running for political office. Palin and Jindal are being targeted early by the msm/dnc/rinos and those coordinated attacks do have an effect. Rush is taking those slings and arrows for now but like I said, he’s not running for office.
Steele, Cantor, McCalin(in the case of Sarah) and now Ron Paul. All whiney Rush and Sarah wannabees and they can't handle his popularity.
The GOP thinks they can get along without the conservative base although 2006 and 2008 proved them dead wrong, yet they scream like squashed pu**ies when someone like Rush or Sarah comes along and energizes that very base they claim they don't need anymore.
As for me, I am becoming independent and waiting for the Tea Party to be formed into THE new Political party of conservatives.
I used to find Rush a little too “over-the-top” for my taste even though I found myself agreeing with his point-of-view WAY more often than not, it’s not often that I listen to him even nowadays though.
However, if one reads even one book of his, they will understand him, and his on-air style completely. It seems that those who vilify Rush are scared of his ability to capture “our side” of the arguments versus liberal policies and put it in terms that are VERY easy to understand, and get people excited. Rush’s opponents see this as a threat because, well, they should. He stands between them and their ability to transform the U.S. into a Communist nation ala Chavez. The liberals can’t be so bold as Chavez, so instead they must attack people (like the media) in the public discourse, and they seek to nullify his effects this way vs. removing him in some other way. He’s also too well-known to “dispatch” as some leaders in history have done to vocal opponents.
This really has no so much to do with Rush, but rather as a means to demoralize US (conservatives). It’s what they (Socialists/Communists/Democrats) did with Bush, and it is what they are doing with Rush now.
What’s very disturbing is that it does seem that there are those within the GOP, and those who claim to be Conservatives that really aren’t and it seems they control the Republican Party. It’s as if there are two parties in Washington, but it’s not as it appears to be - split down “R & D” lines.
DITTO. (pun intended)
Ron Paul was one of the few who supported Reagan against Ford in 1976.
IMHO, the people behind Obama picked McCain as the most beatable candidate. Remember when he was out and then back in the primaries? It happened here in Illinois when Glenn Poshard ran against Blagoyavich. How well did that turn out?
Well.. this tells me they recognize two things about the voting population: 1. It's "celebrity-driven". One need only scan post counts at FR to see that's true (celebrities, personal scandals, missing children). 2. The population will now become far more sedentary resulting from lesser dollars - and that more people will find interactive time spent on line and reading (while the costs are yet low) or watching TV in contrast to people "going" to places (which costs more).
And, I think they hope that by targetting Rush, the MSM types can also derive profits from their "markets". Basically, what's happening happening is a "Bebop" event. The left I think is hoping the cluster formations (which will drive their revenue markets) will take place on line.
Just saying that this statement
“If Reagan was alive today, you, Mr Paul ... would be running away from him and labeling him as polarizing and confrontational.”
is factually wrong.
wow. he is so fast to pick up and carry the leftwing water and parrot their meme of the day
LSD is not a safe alternative to Diazepam doc. You might want to lay off.
And ron paul is a conservative, small government kind of person?
Why not ask him about all those earmarks he slips into spending bills such as research and marketing of wild shrimp or the earmark to renovate a privately owned movie theatre just to name two of the dozens of earmarks he slipped in last year’s budget.
Neville Paul has a nice ring to it.
There was a problem with my logic.
I guess the point I was trying to make was that many critics of Ron Paul fail to recognize that Ron Paul was one of only 4 Republican US Representatives to support Ronald Reagan over Gerald Ford in 1976.
The track record of Ron Paul supporting Reagan when very few Republicans did was the “fact” in factually, but yes, you are correct about the hypothetical.