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FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force terrorist list: Christians, Constitution Defenders on list
United American Freedom Foundation ^ | 3/09/09 | Barneica

Posted on 03/09/2009 9:29:01 PM PDT by barnieca

http://www.uaff.us/fbijointterrorismtaskforce.htm


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KEYWORDS: christians; constitution; domesticterrorism; fbi; jttf
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1 posted on 03/09/2009 9:29:01 PM PDT by barnieca
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To: barnieca

If true, they can go F themselves.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 9:29:54 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: barnieca

Nice to see that “defenders of the Constitution” are now enemies.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 9:33:23 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: barnieca

Hmmm - I didn’t see any reference to Muslims - I guess that’s because they are so peaceful.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 9:34:35 PM PDT by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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To: barnieca


5 posted on 03/09/2009 9:34:45 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: barnieca
I clicked on the link, but I wasn't allowed in...

“If you hate someone because of their skin color or religion
then you are not allowed in our website ares.”

You see, I have a really big problem with those muslim people.

6 posted on 03/09/2009 9:36:27 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: barnieca

I guess drug cartels with billions of dollars with paramilitary arsenals don’t qualify...nor do Islamic terror training camps...

No, the guy with night vision and a Diet Coke in a lawnchair in Arizona is the problem...


7 posted on 03/09/2009 9:37:04 PM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: barnieca

“If you encounter any of the following...Lone Individuals.” LOL!


8 posted on 03/09/2009 9:37:14 PM PDT by familyop
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To: TigerLikesRooster
No reference to Muslim terrorist.

Making numerous references to U.S. Constitution?

Isn't this a profiling?

Now Al Qaeda of the world have enough time and opportunity to plan the next mass terrorist attack, while G-men are busying fighting these 'domestic terrorists.' This kind of misguided priority would be just the thing which would invite nuke-terrorism on U.S. soil.

9 posted on 03/09/2009 9:38:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hmmmm,

It looks like the ONLY group not listed is ACORN . . .


10 posted on 03/09/2009 9:38:42 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: barnieca
Groups or individuals, operating entirely inside the US, attempting to influence the US government or population to effect political or social change by engaging in criminal activity

ACORN!

11 posted on 03/09/2009 9:40:18 PM PDT by LouD
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To: Sender
Nice to see that “defenders of the Constitution” are now enemies.

I recall something very similar during the Clinton administration.

12 posted on 03/09/2009 9:40:59 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: barnieca

My name is probably there due to all the glowing remarks I’ve made about The One./sarc


13 posted on 03/09/2009 9:41:03 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Petruchio

American
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14 posted on 03/09/2009 9:41:51 PM PDT by ducdriver
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To: barnieca

There is nothing there about targeting Christians or protectors of the Constitution. “Christian Identity” is a known cult/hate group. You really shouldn’t mislead people, you know. It’s very bad for your eternal soul.


15 posted on 03/09/2009 9:42:55 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: matt1234
They are after their own holy grail: another Tim MacVeigh.
16 posted on 03/09/2009 9:43:49 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: barnieca

The Terrorism Tree: My attempt to show the connections and offshoots between terror groups in the Middle East. Please correct any errors.


17 posted on 03/09/2009 9:45:50 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: barnieca
"Lone Individuals"

Single and childless? We're watching you!

18 posted on 03/09/2009 9:47:37 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: barnieca

Hmmm, let’s see here...
What?
“Left Wing Terrorists
Political motivation is usually Marxist/Leninist philosophy”?!

Holy Cow! Gimme the phone! What was that number, again?

“Hello? FBI? There’s sumpin’ funny going on at the White House!”


19 posted on 03/09/2009 9:48:48 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: barnieca

“Christian Identity” nutjobs are in no way, shape or form Christians.


20 posted on 03/09/2009 9:49:45 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Nachum; 444Flyer; trooprally

Ping

Some more information concerning this subject:

http://seclists.org/politech/2001/Nov/0080.html


21 posted on 03/09/2009 9:49:48 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: LouD

Note the slide from simply being a criminal to now being a terrorist if one is engaged in criminal activity AND attempting to influence the US Government or population to effect political or social change.

In other words, any politically motivated person, who happens to have triggered a criminal charge, is automatically categorized as a terrorist.

So if you peacefully hold a placard at a parade, but are parked too close to a fire hydrant, federal terrorism charges may be levied against you.

Common sensically, most of the groups on the card would qualify as not being law abiding and better categorized as criminal. IMHO, I see no reason to distort criminal behavior as being terrorism when it fails to promote terror.


22 posted on 03/09/2009 9:50:20 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: JemiansTerror

For your information.


23 posted on 03/09/2009 9:50:53 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Michael Steele is a craven squish. -Mark Steyne)
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To: barnieca

I don’t see any actual terrorists on their “Terrorist List”.


24 posted on 03/09/2009 9:51:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

It gives the impression that every major tribal group has one of its own.:-)


25 posted on 03/09/2009 9:51:03 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Left-Wing Terrorists
- Political Motivation is usually
Marxist Leninist philosophy"

Hey guys, check out the WH and Capitol Hill!

26 posted on 03/09/2009 9:52:53 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"...claim driving is a right, not a privilege..."

Does this definition expand enough to include those who believe:

"...marriage is a right, not a privilege..."?

I didn't think so.

27 posted on 03/09/2009 9:52:58 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: matt1234
I remember that one coming out of the Arizona FBI office like this one. This might be the same brochure.
28 posted on 03/09/2009 9:53:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: HollyB

Interesting. Worth noting.


29 posted on 03/09/2009 9:53:45 PM PDT by Nachum (Documented Obama confusion)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Oops. I forgot the Iranian-sponsored “Believing Youth”; a Yemeni Shi’a movement.


30 posted on 03/09/2009 9:58:33 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Probably so. But the paper is only so big... ;)


31 posted on 03/09/2009 9:59:02 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: barnieca
Just FYI: this is old news, as this brochure was produced nearly 8 years ago. link
32 posted on 03/09/2009 10:01:23 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: pissant

those who are fed by Pharoah will do Pharoah’s bidding.


33 posted on 03/09/2009 10:13:38 PM PDT by usshadley (crying racism--the new "last refuge of the scoundrel")
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To: barnieca
The title is alarming and misleading. The FBI wasn't targeting Christians, merely the violent "christian identity" groups which have almost nothing in common with the real teachings of the Prince of Peace.

And "defenders of the Constitution" was in quotation marks. A lot of violent people throughout American history have hid narrowly selfish and violent aims behind defending the Constitution.

I'm not totally pleased with the tone of the FBI publication. They should have gone ahead and listed violent Muslim extremist groups and the general public has a right and responsibility to lawfully monitor and "police the police", but I really do not see anything greatly alarming or out of line with this FBI publication.

34 posted on 03/09/2009 10:18:47 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This thing has been around for a decade, it goes back to ‘99 during the Clintoon administration. But it was for real, AFAIK.


35 posted on 03/09/2009 10:22:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well, I guess that at least half the folks on this site fall into one or more of those categories.

So this is what it’s come to. “Defending the US Constitution against the federal government and the UN” is now grounds to get you labeled an “extremist”.

And what on earth is “Christian Identity” doing on that list? Why is a Terrorism Task Force interested in that?

Take note, people. We are truly in a major historical period.


36 posted on 03/09/2009 10:22:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DaveyB
Hmmm - I didn’t see any reference to Muslims - I guess that’s because they are so peaceful.

A minor oversight, reflecting the biases of the Clinton Adminstration. :)

37 posted on 03/09/2009 10:22:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Gee...no illegal alien gang groups on that list? Ni MS-13, Zetas?


38 posted on 03/09/2009 10:23:49 PM PDT by Mister Muggles
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To: El Gato
I suppose it is recycled back into prominence, considering the political leaning of those in WH. Not just Obama, but many old Clinton crews are back.
39 posted on 03/09/2009 10:24:26 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: barnieca
Interesting that Islamic Fundamentalists didn't even cross their minds but defenders of the constitution such as our military personnel did!
40 posted on 03/09/2009 10:26:04 PM PDT by vigilante2 (I support global warming)
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To: Technical Editor

Someones “hater” is another’s “lover”.


41 posted on 03/09/2009 10:26:13 PM PDT by barnieca (www.theobamafile.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Three big flags:
1) Lone Individuals
— So, being a loner is indicative of being a terrorist?
2) Groups of Individuals engaged in para-military training.
— So, National Guard training, and even militia and re-enactment groups are terrorists?
3) Christian Identity
— So, Identifying with the Savior in your religion (assuming that you are Christian) means you are a terrorist? (It has been said that there cannot be Christianity w/o Christ.)


42 posted on 03/09/2009 10:26:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Windflier

Ok, I read down a bit, and now understand that “Christian Identity” is an actual extremist group. Strike that one from my preceding post.


43 posted on 03/09/2009 10:27:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ChicagahAl
"Lone Individuals"

Widows, widowers, college students, divorced people, priests and nuns among them apparently. Targeting Christians is clearly religious discrimination. Taking deep breath........we are still in America, right?

44 posted on 03/09/2009 10:28:45 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Just FYI: this is old news, as this brochure was produced nearly 8 years ago. link

Actually 10 years ago. It was produced two years before that posting.

45 posted on 03/09/2009 10:30:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I like the hammers from The Wall. ;)


46 posted on 03/09/2009 10:32:14 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: matt1234
I recall something very similar during the Clinton administration.

That's because this flier *is* from the Clinton Administration. But our current Attorney General was Deputy AG back then.

47 posted on 03/09/2009 10:34:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: barnieca

Let’s see if this will be clickable.

http://www.uaff.us/fbijointterrorismtaskforce.htm


48 posted on 03/09/2009 10:34:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MamaDearest
"we are still in America, right?"

You'd better sit down. I may have some bad news for you on that.

49 posted on 03/09/2009 10:35:48 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: barnieca

How about a specific link to the doc.

I’m tired.

Going to bed.

I’m not going to search through a bunch of stuff to find a doc that should have been presented with it’s own URL to begin with.

Night night.


50 posted on 03/09/2009 10:35:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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