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[BATF] Agent details arms cache (machineguns and M203/M79) found in home of doctor.
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE ^ | 10 MAR 09 | BY LINDA SATTER

Posted on 03/10/2009 7:44:40 AM PDT by DCBryan1

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To: Idabilly

Q: How do you know when an BATF agent is lying?

A: His lips move!


41 posted on 03/10/2009 8:51:38 AM PDT by ironwill (I want my daddy's records.)
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To: DCBryan1
The state warrant was issued a day after water meter readers for the city of London went into a wooded area near the home to urinate and tripped over a partially buried military container wrapped in duct tape and plastic.

Note the plural - water meter readers - went into the wooded area to urinate. Sounds suspicious to me. Did they hold each other's 'units' while doing so? How far into the 'woods' did they trespass? Did they have a permit for tandem urinating? So many unanswered questions, so little information...

/s

42 posted on 03/10/2009 8:52:56 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: stockpirate

Yes, kinds like that. I also dream of hunting with an AK on full auto.........


What does hunting have to do with this story?

Perhaps you were being flip, but you’re using the words of the gun-grabbers to a T.


43 posted on 03/10/2009 9:01:20 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics=Obamageddon)
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To: Eagle Eye

a golf ball is about 40mm, could you use it for a driver? :)


44 posted on 03/10/2009 9:02:21 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: Dead Corpse

“This guys weapons didn’t do squat to defend him from unConstitutional government.

Nor do I see thousands of Patriots running to his aid.”

Sad but true!!

The States are corrupted by money & Most Americans have become fearful of THEIR Government! They say the Federal Constitution is Supreme & it best that of the States..Then I ask who’s to stop them when they operate like Stalinist? The Bill of Rights was to place chains on this beast of a Federal Government..That whole Supreme clause has been used to turn us into Slaves..Nothing more


45 posted on 03/10/2009 9:03:56 AM PDT by Idabilly
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To: stylin_geek
This story is easily dismissed as full of lies, because the reporter used the testimony of a BATF official.

Absolutely! The BATF is full of wannabes bitter that they weren't smart or emotionally stable enough to make it in the FBI. Thus, they think they can make up for it by grandizing their actions. It's really pathetic... and scary.
46 posted on 03/10/2009 9:06:35 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (The Amish are the barometers of freedom in this country.)
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To: Beelzebubba
I am planning on a trip to Knob Creek the first weekend of April for the spring machine gun shoot. Most of the folks there have to have a nice income to afford their “hobby.” Lots of lawyers and doctors present along with the Louisville office of the BATF, FBI, Secret Service and probably many other Law Enforcement Organizations. I have always wondered how many times my picture has been taken at various gatherings.
47 posted on 03/10/2009 9:07:51 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: The Electrician
tripped over a partially buried military container wrapped in duct tape and plastic.

Let me get this right:
The doctor is definately an intelligent man.
He likes firearms, and procured an FFL.
He paid for the FFL and proper Form 4 paperwork for the transferable machineguns...
...He form 1'd the Grenade Launchers and paid the applicable tax on them.
He legally owns ammuntion and practice grenades.

BUT HE IS DUMB ENOUGH TO HALF-ASS BURY HIGH EXPLOSIVES NEXT TO HIS HOUSE WHERE SOME JOE CAN TRIP OVER IT???!!!!

IMMEDIATELY AFTER A STATE POLICE INSPECTION OF HIS INVENTORY BY A "METER READER" TAKING LEAK?!

I CALL BULLSHIT! This smells like a setup.

Anyone dumb enough to skirt the grey area of NFA violations would WELL distance themselves from such a charge. If I owned an M203 and wanted to stash HE, I would do it MILES, if not a couple of counties away from me. NOT NEXT to all of my worldly possessions.

/art bell rant off.

48 posted on 03/10/2009 9:08:20 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Condor51
You mean this shotgun? :)
49 posted on 03/10/2009 9:08:42 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: DCBryan1

The BATFE should not exist. What part of the 2nd amendment is so hard for people to comprehend?


50 posted on 03/10/2009 9:09:45 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: DCBryan1
Looks like the BAT-FAGS are trying to drum up more funding and power from their fellow anti-gun masters in the demonRAT-run congress.

Like Stuart on MAD YV, "Look what WE can do!".

Good thing this guy is of Indian descent.

If he were a Christian gun owner, they would have conducted a full-on military assault, eventually resulting in the incineration of Mann, women, children, and pets in his family.

Most of the Americans I've met that happen to be of Indian descent, are outstanding citizens.

I think this guy is likely as well, and is just being rail-roaded for the "grandstanding" purposes of federal "law" (read that, unlawful) enforcement.

The JBTs are emboldened by their left-wing, anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, decidedly UN-AMERICAN masters in congress, and appear to be on the march against us law-abiding citizens.

51 posted on 03/10/2009 9:16:00 AM PDT by DocH (The WAR on our RIGHTS must NOT go unanswered - Keep your powder dry)
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To: DCBryan1

I don’t know if I believe that any more.


52 posted on 03/10/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: DCBryan1

BATF agents, the other, OTHER white (and dark) meat. :)


53 posted on 03/10/2009 9:20:03 AM PDT by DocH (The WAR on our RIGHTS must NOT go unanswered - Keep your powder dry)
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To: Roger_Wildcat
*** You mean this shotgun? :) ***

Yeah I think that's it!

A black scary looking 'high powered rifle' with all that 'military stuff' and high capacity bullet clippy thing-a-ma-jig and has that 'flash-suppressor-silencer' thing on the gun barrel. Plus that 'Laser Aiming Gizmo' on the side.

Yep, that 'shotgun'.

;-)

54 posted on 03/10/2009 9:24:19 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: xmission

some “investors” are right.


55 posted on 03/10/2009 9:24:56 AM PDT by G.Mason (Alarm & Muster)
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To: Idabilly
Fearful? Most folks I talk to are "deer in the headlights" terrified of the idea of a BATFE raid. Even on a mistaken address.

This exists in a "free" Country? That's Third World fear. That's Soviet KGB fear. That's Nazi SS fear.

And it's working. People are staying put. Keeping their mouths shut when the Doctor down the street gets raided or the collector they see once in a while around town.

This same paralysis gripped the Germans when the Jews down the street went missing.

Cav Arms got raided over a YEAR ago. Thousands in inventory seized. STILL no charges filed. Red's almost got taken out and is still trying to recover. Len Savage has been under attack lately. The recent SCOTUS case against Beretta hasn't seemed to slow down the harassment lawsuits in other jurisdictions.

How many stories have we read right here where a collector/ffl/c&r gets taken down and we never hear another word on it? The cases get put on the back shelf, the po-buckers go under without a peep, and the media looks for the next target to demonize.

56 posted on 03/10/2009 9:28:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: o_zarkman44
<>Beware of meter readers pissing deep in the woods.

Especially if they pee in packs,although i'm sure Barney Frank would just call it a camping trip... :)
57 posted on 03/10/2009 9:30:57 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("No pale pastels,but bold colors".....Ronnie,we sure do miss you,sir!)
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To: Syntyr
I have “enough” ammo for my personal use...

That depends on how many different calibers it was. 20000 for ma deuce 400 81mm etc. :-)

58 posted on 03/10/2009 9:33:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: DCBryan1

Yep... they want that right to self-defense gone so that they can cow the population. [Un]Fortunately they seem to have forgotten that cows can kick.


59 posted on 03/10/2009 9:36:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; TruthBeforeAll

Another observation about this story is the hand grenades that were found.

According to the Supreme Court in the US v Miller decision, sawed off shotguns serve no useful military purpose in regards to a “well regulated militia.”

So, according to that ruling, since hand grenades serve a military purpose, they aren’t illegal for private citizens to own.

http://law.jrank.org/pages/12810/United-States-v-Miller.html

Which makes the following line by the BATF agent a display of willful ignorance, or, a public official drunk with power:

Inside the container, Oliver said, were 98 live grenades and one practice grenade, all designed to be fired from a gun and considered “instruments of war with no social purpose.”


60 posted on 03/10/2009 9:40:41 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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