Skip to comments.Official: US ship in scrape now has armed escort
Posted on 03/12/2009 12:26:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head
WASHINGTON The Navy has assigned a heavily armed destroyer to escort the U.S. surveillance ship that got into a high-seas confrontation with Chinese ships last weekend.
A defense official says the Pearl Harbor-based destroyer Chung-Hoon is keeping a close eye on the unarmed sub-hunting ship Impeccable as it continues operations in the South China Sea. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to describe sensitive ship movements.
The official says the escort ship joined the Impeccable on Wednesday.
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More importantly ... Does Hornady make dies for 5" 62 cal?
I know, I asked for it
The Chinese are not capable of contending with an entire carrier strike group on short notice in a situation like this.
It can be argued, that with one DDG, we are increasing the chance that they would respond...because they can.
But that's just my opinion and thoughts.
ready to turn them Chinese into BRD!
Although, they're technically civilians, I would wager that a good percentage are either prior-service or fully retired military.
I have very mixed feelings about the move throughout the '90's and well into this century to place civilians in billets that were previously handled by military personnel. I understand the cost saving nature of such policies, but I wonder if we don't lose effectiveness and overall competency in mission capabilities.
Now, how do we know this whole debacle wasn’t set up to make zero look tough in handling the ChiComs? They have the damn Secretary of State in their pocket why would they instigate anything?
their minds don’t work right, huh?
shouldn’t they be protesting this as an escalation?
Why ?? You reload ???
But a LOT of help would be close at hand that could easily overpower anything the PLAN could sortie.
A single DDG alone could be overwhelmed with what the PLAN has in the area.
They would be foolish to do so...but why even take the chance when you can punctuate your insistance that free passage will be maintained with maximum force if necessary.
no recycle its bad out here
We both hope and pray that does not happen...but that would be entirely dependent on the PLAN.
You like that one il be here all week
I personally believe that large submarines can be easily detected by satellites regardless if they are under power or not.
Some did make negative comments...others wanted “The One” to show a little muscle in the face of provocation.
They don’t all march in lockstep over there..unless they’re reveling in BSD ( Bush Derangement Syndrome )..then its pretty much unanimous.
Maybe that is the idea, like Japan in the 30's. Provoke something, poop hits the fan. Treasuries are registered ... BOOM ... 1 trillion dollars debt repudiated against enemy nation.
Not likely, barely possible, but not impossible.
I thought I remembered correctly on this. Are we sniffing around THIS?!!?
There was another Admiral of Chinese descent who served well, Willis Augustus Lee. One of the first admirals to properly use radar with deadly effect during surface engagements, notably around Guadalcanal.
Not really. By design, they are to operate by themselves, well away from surface traffic.
“all that noise would make it extremely difficult to find subs.”
Nope, we are the best in the world at prosecuting submarines. We have been training and continuously learning that warfare area since before WWI.
Yeah, I understand what you mean. And yes, some would like to “increment” while others want to show full force.
But, I would keep in mind, if you’re showing full force, right off the bat, you’re also taking significant resources away from other things that may be just as necessary. And you might not “really” need all that force, in that a minor “increment” may be enough to “get the message across”. And thus, you will have saved yourself considerable force being moved from other areas that you need it in, too...
So, that may be part of an “on-going and overall strategy” that the military uses...
Just a thought of mine... :-)
Is that the new 5”/62cal?
It means “Come and take it.”
As opposed to millions of Americans purchasing products manufactured in Communist China, as we speak.
Strange days indeed.
Oh, the irony.
Agreed. Good response to an intentional provocation.
DU warmongers!! Racists!
So he was in Hawaii when the one was born
So he was in Hawaii when the one was born in Kenya.
There...now it’s fixed!
Chung Hoon means “we’ve taken the measure of Zero.”
Maybe a reflection on the kidnapping of the USS Pueblo by N.K. would be good. It the Chinese do stage a confrontation it will likely create a “do or die” international incident. They would like nothing better than “detaining” a modern ship of the line to learn all its secrets and they would not hesitate to risk the lives of thousands to accomplish such.
Vigilance needs to be the name of the game, as well as military air cover and lots and lots of plane being able to get to the location in a hurry and a commander who is bold and not over ruled by those in WA DC.
WooHoo! You can see the old shipyard from my family’s Fish Camp on Mary Walker Bayou, in Gautier.
Okinanawa is too far waay.
The Pueblo was a spy ship taken by the North Koreans in international waters and that was a shameful debacle.
In the current incident, the US DDG, Chung-hoo, is already with the Impeccable so the Chinese are not going to be able to just take her now...it would have to be done after a major shooting war with the USS Chung-hoo. And she is a very capable vessel.
I am hoping that we have air cover and sub surface cover in addition to the Chung-hoo.
Chung Hoon = Ka Boom in Chinese. >:-)
Sending guns is only effective if we are willing to use them.
Sending a destroyer sends a message that the U.S. isn't happy over what happened to the Impeccable. Sending an entire strike force would be premature. If China ups the ante and messes with the Chung Hoon then yes, our response should be to reply in kind. If the matter dies with the harassment of last Sunday then the U.S. has sent its message without China loosing much face, if any.
Very fitting a destroyer be named for him.
Sorry, but Willis “Ching” A. Lee was not of Chinese descent. He got his nickname at the USNA because it sounded “Chinese”. Was instrumental in killing a lot of Japs though.
My dad was of Chinese descent was a “Flying Tiger” and was instrumental in killing a lot of Japs too!
PC language filter off.
RADM Willis Lee did indeed bear the nickname “Ching Chong China” ... but he was not Chinese. He was from Kentucky, and related to that other famous Chinee (not), Robert E. Lee.
Most of the he Arleigh Burkes are named for major-league butt kickers. It’s a good thing. There are a few stinking politicians thrown in there.
I wondered if China weren't trying to sneak a sub in or out of the area by surrounding our listening ship with four vessels and making as much noise as they could to prevent us from tracking their sub as it transited the area.
The Chinese fighter pilot went into the drink after ramming our aircraft and was never found. After the Chinese seized our aircraft, Bush sent a letter of condolence to the Chinese pilots wife.
And apologized for entering Chinese airspace.
Has everyone forgotten this?
Should have read all the way to the end.
Ping for later.