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CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
Press TV ^ | 13 Mar 2009 | Press TV

Posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup

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To: Joe Boucher

I’m not relying on anyone but God as far as Israel goes. I don’t trust modern Jews to take care of their land. Now the ones in the 60’s...they knew.

241 posted on 03/16/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix
There will be a MARK [MINT] OF THE BEAST WITHOUT WHICH it will be impossible to buy or sell

To buy or sell

Islamic Mint

It’s here!

242 posted on 03/16/2009 10:48:41 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (What would John Lennon do?)
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To: Marysecretary

too true Marysecretary.

243 posted on 03/16/2009 11:03:10 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Marysecretary


In the Message . . . it’s


245 posted on 03/16/2009 11:40:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Joe Boucher


However, I’ve always thought it funny and that they should make more of it after such swaps . . .


are worth so much more than Muslim lives 1 to how many?

246 posted on 03/16/2009 11:42:36 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Jeremiah Jr


247 posted on 03/16/2009 11:43:22 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Quix

Sort of the way I see our Special forces teams.
One Navy Seal is worth what 500 enemy?

One palestinian isn’t worth a teaspoon of dirt.
300 are worth 1 Israeli.

248 posted on 03/16/2009 12:18:22 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher


I mean that, of course, only in the abstract world of poltical shenanigans and satanic hogwash.

I still believe that essentially ‘all men are created equal . . . ‘

However, they sure mangle what the Creator left them with fairly early on in many cases.

And in terms of the Palistinian and Jihadi and Arab leaders . . . one Israeli would be better than all of them and all of their Parliments, imho.


249 posted on 03/16/2009 12:28:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Yehuda; piytar

There is every indication that the leaders of the United Nations never intended that the nation of Israel was to live very long after she declared her independence May 14, 1948. But, after the massacre of European Jewry, the nations of the world had a brief moment of self appraisal and were shocked at their complicity in the most massive Genocide this planet had ever known. They all recognized that they had participated. From the instrument of Hitler’’s Germany, through the Christian Europeans, the Church, the Red Cross, including the decision by the Western Allies not to rescue, feed or house the Jewish refugees –– all were guilty of committing Genocide.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADOPTED RESOLUTION 181, Nov. 29, 1947, partitioning Mandated Palestine into a Jewish & Arab State

For a brief moment after the Holocaust, goaded by guilt of omission or commission, they made a slim gesture to the Jewish remnants of that great massacre through the United Nations.

The U.N. portioned off a sliver of land from the original Palestinian Mandate under Great Britain to create a Jewish homeland, "closely settled" by the Jewish people. This was the Biblical center of the ancient homeland of the Jewish people. The general area, including the land captured from the Ottoman Turks in the Allies WWI victory was subsequently partitioned into the Arab/Muslim nations of Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Iran, Saudi Arabia and in 1922, Trans-Jordan. The borders of these newly created countries were arbitrarily drawn by England and France. 78% of the Palestinian Mandate intended for the Jews was cut off for a kingdom to Abdullah after he was forced out of Saudi Arabia and was called Trans-Jordan.

As a result, even when Israel did try to negotiate the failed concept of "Land for Peace", the Arab/Muslim attacks continued. The same Arab nations still pledged to eliminate Israel and the same U.N. nations continued to press Israel to take another –– then another chance on peace. The ""Peace Process"" became a mantra and an open invitation for national suicide. The Arabist U.S. State Department, representing the Arab oil nations and U.S./multi-national oil corporations, made every effort to undercut the existence of Israel. The E.U. (European Union), dependent upon Arab oil, also worked diligently to assist the Arab/Muslim nations to rebuild their armies after each defeat, hopeful that one day Israel would lose "One" war. Both of the above worked hard to defeat the 1947 Vote for Partition of Mandate Palestine but, having failed, they continued their war against Israel to this very day.

September 17, 1947: Secretary of State George Marshall, in an address to the United Nations, indicates that the United States is reluctant to endorse the partition of Palestine.

Your post quote (link below)

The USA under Truman was against partition.....Things changed after the declaration of statehood by Israel

I wish that I had more time to put this all together cleanly. Bottom line, the Truman Administration was against Israel Statehood, and at almost the last minute the Doctrine was changed. It seems from here that much of the historical record has been altered or hidden since the advent of the Internet. I have read numerous books on this matter, and certain facts have been changed over the last several years when Googled.
Call me paranoid if you like, but  I know what I have read about certain matters over the past 35 years or so.

250 posted on 03/16/2009 12:52:42 PM PDT by Radix (22;22 EST, 13 Feb 2009, C-Span2, Silent wait for Sen to come bury USA after burying his Mom)
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To: Radix

Excellent points.

Interesting how GOD HAD HIS WAY regardless of all their satanic complicity.

251 posted on 03/16/2009 1:13:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: FARS; devolve

Thank you FARS. I never put bumper stickers on my car but have always flown a flag on the front of my house.

252 posted on 03/16/2009 2:05:44 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Big_Monkey
Given CIA’s recent inability to get anything right (going back the Bay of Pigs and even the fall of the Soviet empire), I wouldn’t put too much stock in whatever alleged report some analyst may or may not have written.

The Truth. Needs Repeating.

253 posted on 03/16/2009 2:28:47 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 (War on Drug supporters are enemies of the Constitution.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks Fred Nerks, good catch.

254 posted on 03/16/2009 5:45:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ( Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Squidpup; TaraP; Quix; Jo Nuvark

The title said — “CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years”

Actually, I see this as *quite encouraging news* to me! :-)

What this means to me, is that when analysis is done by such an organization as the CIA, and they see that the forces at work in the world, and the “particulars” of the situation and the “facts on the ground” are such that Israel cannot maintain its “Jewish state” anymore, as a “homeland for the Jews” (as it was originally intended) — this makes me *get excited*!!

This means that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel is coming back before this happens! That’s because Jesus, as the conquering King and Messiah of Israel is said to come back “just in the nick of time” to save “national Israel” from total destruction.

When I see that there is *no way out* and “Israel will fall” — then I start looking for that return of Jesus, because, actually — Jesus, is the *only solution* to the survival of Israel. There is no other solution and the leaders of Israel actually see this, too — I believe (i.e., that they really have no good solution for the continued survival of Israel, and they’re simply “hanging on” right now, hoping for “something” good to happen...).

I think there is *no doubt about it* — that “Israel will fall!” — in a purely “human sense” and because of the forces in the world aligned against it. I do not think Israel *can survive* on its own, and I do not believe Israel will survive on its own. I believe it’s *doomed*, eventually. That’s in a purely “human sense” and with the world being the way it is now.

Fortunately, I know that God is the protector of Israel and that He has already said in the Bible that He will send the Messiah of Israel back to *take over the entire world* at that time, and make Israel the ruling country of His power and reign over all the nations of the world. *This* — is the only solution — for Israel.

If there is no God in Heaven and if the Messiah of Israel does not come back to take over the rule of all the nations in the world — then — Israel *will fall* and be no more!

255 posted on 03/16/2009 6:25:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Nachum

You said — “The world has predicting the demise of Israel for about 2000 years now.”

Well, now.., national Israel was *absolutely gone* from the world scene for almost all of those two thousand years — gone completely. The only thing left was the cultural and religious element of the Jews for all those years, scattered around the world in various places and nations.

That was a miracle, in and of itself, that they still continued to exist as a cultural and religion entity all during that time, even without any kind of “national identity” at all.

But, lately, it seems that many Jews are bemoaning the fact that even their “cultural and religious identity” is becoming “assimilated” into the world (in various countries where Jews are still living). So, it’s sort of ironic in that — at the point in time, when they’ve gotten back a *real* national identity and sovereign nation status in the world — that their “cultural and religious identity” is starting to be dissipated, to the point where they fear that their cultural and religious identity will *disappear* even after regaining their national identity in a sovereign state.

And now..., you add to that, the “evaluation” that the Jews will *no longer even have a sovereign state* after a certain period of time — it *does appear* — that the times (now) are more dangerous for the Jews to totally disappear, than they have been in any other time in their history.

I believe this assessment is correct and they face the imminent danger of being “totally wiped out” — as they stand, right now, in a normal and human sense and as governments and countries go...

To me, the *only solution* for Israel’s survival, in the face of all this — is the return of the Messiah of Israel, to take over and rule the nation of Israel, as the Bible says He will. Short of that — Israel *is finished* — permanently...

256 posted on 03/16/2009 6:41:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler



257 posted on 03/16/2009 6:42:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt:
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To: Chinstrap61a

You said — “Not If can do anything about it -I can still carry a rifle if needed.”

Rifles, bullets, war and self-defense, no matter who helps in this world, will not save Israel. It’s doomed, as far as things are going today, as we see them in a human sense...

258 posted on 03/16/2009 6:43:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Big_Monkey

You said — “... I wouldn’t put too much stock in whatever alleged report some analyst may or may not have written.”

Israel has a real big problem, in this area, and they know it. They’ve been “hanging on”, at first thinking that a two-state solution would solve the problem. But, that doesn’t seem to be their solution. A “one-state solution” is an *equal disaster* as much as a two-state solution is.

With a “one-state solution” you’ve got the demographic time bomb of the Muslims and their huge families and then it’s only a matter of time before they “out-vote” all the Jews and take over the country without a shot being fired, by voting themselves into office (in such a “one-state” solution).

And, of course, the two-state solution doesn’t look much better. Put an armed terrorist group right in the middle of your country and give them their own state is not quite the “solution” I would think would contribute to Israel’s survival.

Either way, they don’t know of a “way out” of this mess, and they are simply “hanging on” right now, not knowing what to do...

259 posted on 03/16/2009 6:48:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Diogenesis

You said — “There is little doubt that the US State Dept has wanted the extermination of Israel and then American Jews. That the CIA is on board, is more than troubling.”

Yes, but they are right in their assessment, nonetheless. A quote from the article says —

The CIA report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”

A one-state solution would result in a Muslim take-over of Israel at the voting booth, and the renaming of the country of “Israel” to “Palestine” with all the Jews then becoming “second-class citizens” in a fully Muslim state in the Middle East, all without a single shot being fired, to do so.

I don’t think you’ll find many Jews who will stick around in a Muslim state, called Palestine and be second-class citizens, having to live under Sharia Law of Islam...

260 posted on 03/16/2009 6:57:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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