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H.R.1388- Mandatory Youth Service Bill (Daily Congressional)
US Congress ^

Posted on 03/17/2009 11:12:50 AM PDT by mnehring

HR 1388 hits the House floor on Tuesday. It is named the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (The Give Act.) The House is scheduled to Rule this week. Sponsored by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy (NY), Education and Labor Committee. The objective is to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

SEC. 6107. POWERS OF COMMISSION.

(a) Hearings and Sessions- The Commission may, for the purpose of carrying out this title, hold public hearings, sit and act at times and places, take testimony, and receive evidence as the Commission considers appropriate.

(b) Powers of Members and Agents- Any member or agent of the Commission may, if authorized by the Commission, take any action which the Commission is authorized to take by this section.

(c) Obtaining Official Data- Upon request of the Chairperson, the head of any department or agency shall furnish information to the Commission that the Commission deems necessary to enable it to carry out this title.

(d) Physical Facilities and Equipment- The Architect of the Capitol, in consultation with the appropriate entities in the legislative branch, shall locate and provide suitable facilities and equipment for the operation of the Commission on a nonreimbursable basis.

(e) Administrative Support Services- Upon the request of the Commission, the Architect of the Capitol and the Administrator of General Services shall provide to the Commission on a nonreimbursable basis such administrative support services as the Commission may request in order for the Commission to carry out its responsibilities under this title.

these are co-sponsors/traitors of the bill:

Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 3/12/2009 Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 3/9/2009 Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 3/12/2009 Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 3/9/2009 Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 3/12/2009 Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 3/9/2009 Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 3/9/2009 Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15] - 3/9/2009 Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 3/9/2009 Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 3/12/2009 Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 3/9/2009 Rep Klein, Ron [FL-22] - 3/12/2009 Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 3/12/2009 Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 3/12/2009 Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/9/2009 Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/12/2009 Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 3/9/2009 Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 3/12/2009 Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 3/9/2009 Rep Sestak, Joe [PA-7] - 3/9/2009 Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 3/12/2009 Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 3/9/2009 Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 3/12/2009 Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 3/12/2009 Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 3/12/2009

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The 13th amendment specifically states:

Amendment XIII

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; congress; hr1388; impeachobama; obama; unconstitutional
It has been a while since I've posted a Daily Congressional, highlighting bills that are slipping under the radar, but this one seemed pretty important to post.
1 posted on 03/17/2009 11:12:50 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Travis McGee
...should have had an "Over Our Dead Bodies" alert.
2 posted on 03/17/2009 11:14:31 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: mnehring
Given the number of socialists that are sponsoring this bill, it has to be bad.
3 posted on 03/17/2009 11:15:11 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Kenyan Keynesian will bankrupt this nation.)
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To: mnehring

Obama’s brown shirts?


4 posted on 03/17/2009 11:15:16 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: mnehring

5 posted on 03/17/2009 11:16:30 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Obama Youth Corps!

We shall march to the East!


6 posted on 03/17/2009 11:16:55 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: mnehring

Proving, I suppose, that Democrats’ only real objection to slavery is reserved for cases where it is not racially diverse, and the slaves are privately owned.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 11:17:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: mnehring

They could just adopt ACORN and save a lot of time. s/


8 posted on 03/17/2009 11:17:55 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: mnehring

They might want to reread Amendment 2 before trying to erase 13.


9 posted on 03/17/2009 11:21:05 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect")
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To: mnehring

What a way with words they have! Doesn’t “volunteerism” lose its meaning when it becomes “mandatory?” Perhaps we should coin a new word . . . . . how about “mandateerism?”


10 posted on 03/17/2009 11:21:58 AM PDT by Jim Hill
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To: mnehring

“mandatory service” is another word for “forced conscription” or perhaps “involuntary servitude”. the bottom line “Slavery” with treh government as the master.


11 posted on 03/17/2009 11:23:10 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: joygrace

Ping.


12 posted on 03/17/2009 11:23:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mnehring

Unconstitutional. Doesn’t mean 0bama et.al. won’t implement it.


13 posted on 03/17/2009 11:24:32 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: mnehring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuLrMsa_PeU

An oldie but a goodie


14 posted on 03/17/2009 11:25:16 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: Jim Hill

Indentured Servitude. - An indentured servant is a form of debt bondage worker. The laborer is under contract of an employer for usually three to seven years, in exchange for their transportation, food, drink, clothing, lodging and other necessities. Unlike a slave, an indentured servant is required to work only for a limited term specified in a signed contract.


15 posted on 03/17/2009 11:25:48 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
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FK THAT! It should be enrage the social fabric of the Nation and create civil unrest by trying to force together the gang members, crack whores, illegals and middle and upper class American’s.


16 posted on 03/17/2009 11:28:39 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mnehring
how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

Conscripting middle class kids and sending them into the war zone of Detroit to strenghten the "social fabric".

17 posted on 03/17/2009 11:29:10 AM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Obviously he is doing all of these things and there isn’t much fuss about it except on blogs. He is deranged, drunk with power and determined we will have Communism.


18 posted on 03/17/2009 11:30:10 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mnehring

And we just keep physically taking it...


19 posted on 03/17/2009 11:35:01 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: joygrace

Komsomol Ping!


20 posted on 03/17/2009 11:36:23 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Please Obama, may I have another...
21 posted on 03/17/2009 11:36:45 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Indentured servitude was a voluntary contract designed to obtain a valuable reward (freedom, transport to another country). If the bill makes it "mandatory", it's not a voluntary contract. It is forced conscription by the government. Involuntary servitude. Forced to work for some reason concocted by the government, not the individual who has been conscripted.

My great grandfather conscripted himself to the ship's company in exchange for his passage from Liverpool to the United States. The term of the "contract" was the voyage. His labor on the ship was exchanged for the passage, food and lodging.

22 posted on 03/17/2009 11:39:06 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mnehring

This bill is inane. So perhaps the way to stop it is with inanity.

First, an alternative name.

How about “Putting Black and Hispanic Children To Work Act”?

Black and Hispanic parents would like that, the government providing work for their children to perform instead of idling their time away, getting into mischief, hanging out all day playing games, and things like that. No more drugs, teenage pregnancy, gangs, being arrested and sent to jail, but strictly hard labor in uniforms, and learning how to be productive citizens.

In a pigs eye. Black and Hispanic parents would be up in arms, and screaming loudly.

Maybe call it the “Reeducation For Slavery Reparations Act”?

With a catchy slogan, like “Work Makes Reparations”, over the gate of the “campuses”. American descendants of slaves can get the full experience of what plantation slavery was like, doing such things as hoeing and picking cotton, living in compounds and practicing all such manner of slave lore. After some years of mastering this education, they might receive reparations for the slavery that their ancestors endured, equivalent to today’s prevailing minimum wage. Top graduates may even be hired to oversee undergraduate study.


23 posted on 03/17/2009 11:41:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Grounds for impeachment if there is ever a GOP majority again.


24 posted on 03/17/2009 11:44:03 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: mojitojoe
FK THAT! It should be enrage the social fabric of the Nation and create civil unrest by trying to force together the gang members, crack whores, illegals and middle and upper class American’s.

Wait until the suburban libs get a load of public housing in their communities.

25 posted on 03/17/2009 11:56:35 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: mnehring
by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

Sounds like the subjects of this experiment will be put on buses and shipped around to some kind of diverse economic and ethnic re-education camps.

26 posted on 03/17/2009 12:02:02 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: mnehring
how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

I believe it's been done through something called the "re-education camp."

Some days, it's really hard to believe we are the same species as these varmints.

27 posted on 03/17/2009 12:06:24 PM PDT by freespirited (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. -- M. Thatcher)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thank you for the heads up.


28 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:31 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Thank you for the Ping


29 posted on 03/17/2009 12:13:11 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: mnehring

The Hitler Youth returns.


30 posted on 03/17/2009 12:14:05 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: Age of Reason

I have been raizing my grandson from birth, he is 13 now and they can KM-A if they think they will ever get thier hands on him. Come and get him!


31 posted on 03/17/2009 12:14:55 PM PDT by VNam68
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To: All
I got your "manditory service" RIGHT HERE!


32 posted on 03/17/2009 12:15:38 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: mnehring

Over my dead body, Obama. I will die a free woman before I live as a slave.


33 posted on 03/17/2009 12:18:55 PM PDT by JenB987
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To: mnehring
I've read and re-read everything I could find about this at THOMAS and I don't see anything that says that its 'mandatory', but its scary in any way of form..

AND I don't like this..

Requires states to develop comprehensive plans for volunteer and paid service by Baby Boomers and older adults.

Directs the Corporation to plan pilot programs to:
(1) better target and serve displaced workers; and
(2) establish a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education.

That smells of the Communist rule that if you're a Car Mechanic in Idaho but they need them in Maine, that's where you get shipped of to! Or old retired Engineers in Chicago could get shipped off to Kansas to harvest wheat.

This 'thing' is 1000% unconstitutional. The Repubs in the senate better stop this in its tracks!

And I swear, these rat SOBs are just BEGGING for a Civil War!

34 posted on 03/17/2009 12:21:26 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: mnehring

They will never get my kids!


35 posted on 03/17/2009 1:00:59 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (B. Hussein 0bama is causing too many Marx on our republic.)
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To: VNam68
I have been raizing my grandson from birth, he is 13 now and they can KM-A if they think they will ever get thier hands on him. Come and get him!

Imagine the daughters that would come back pregnant from these these re-education camps, except for the fact that they would be able to get abortions without the parents knowing about it.

36 posted on 03/17/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Condor51
RE: Mandatory

From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed

37 posted on 03/17/2009 1:52:03 PM PDT by lwd
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To: mnehring
Freedom of choice? Nope. Freedom of conscience? Nope. Freedom? Nope.
38 posted on 03/17/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: mnehring; All

The HR 1388 Bill, “The Give” Act Ping List

PING me or…. Please FReepmail me to let me know if you want to be Added or Deleted from the "Ping List."

Thank you
39 posted on 03/17/2009 3:46:41 PM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
With a catchy slogan, like “Work Makes Reparations”

"Arbeit macht frei" ... "Work makes free" ... Nazi concentration camps ... I see the corollary
40 posted on 03/17/2009 4:10:14 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: mnehring
Well, Dubya should have known better than to create the original prcedent.
41 posted on 03/19/2009 6:42:21 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

Freedom Corps wasn’t mandatory.


42 posted on 03/19/2009 6:44:20 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
The RINOs voting Yea:

AK-0 Young, Donald [R]
AL-6 Bachus, Spencer [R]
CA-24 Gallegly, Elton [R]
CA-25 McKeon, Howard [R]
CA-41 Lewis, Jerry [R]
CA-44 Calvert, Ken [R]
CA-45 Bono Mack, Mary [R]
CA-50 Bilbray, Brian [R]
DE-0 Castle, Michael [R]
FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
FL-12 Putnam, Adam [R]
FL-13 Buchanan, Vern [R]
FL-16 Rooney, Thomas [R]
FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [R]
FL-25 Diaz-Balart, Mario [R]
FL-4 Crenshaw, Ander [R]
FL-5 Brown-Waite, Virginia [R]
FL-9 Bilirakis, Gus [R]
IA-4 Latham, Thomas [R]
ID-2 Simpson, Michael [R]
IL-10 Kirk, Mark [R]
IL-13 Biggert, Judy [R]
IL-15 Johnson, Timothy [R]
IL-18 Schock, Aaron [R]
IL-19 Shimkus, John [R]
IN-3 Souder, Mark [R]
KY-2 Guthrie, Brett [R]
KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
LA-2 Cao, Anh [R]
LA-6 Cassidy, Bill [R]
MI-10 Miller, Candice [R]
MI-11 McCotter, Thaddeus [R]
MI-3 Ehlers, Vernon [R]
MI-4 Camp, David [R]
MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
MI-8 Rogers, Michael [R]
MN-3 Paulsen, Erik [R]
MO-8 Emerson, Jo Ann [R]
MT-0 Rehberg, Dennis [R]
NE-1 Fortenberry, Jeffrey [R]
NE-2 Terry, Lee [R]
NJ-11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney [R]
NJ-2 LoBiondo, Frank [R]
NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
NJ-7 Lance, Leonard [R]
NV-2 Heller, Dean [R]
NY-23 McHugh, John [R]
NY-26 Lee, Christopher [R]
NY-3 King, Peter [R]
OH-12 Tiberi, Patrick [R]
OH-14 LaTourette, Steven [R]
OH-3 Turner, Michael [R]
OH-7 Austria, Steve [R]
OK-1 Sullivan, John [R]
OK-3 Lucas, Frank [R]
OK-4 Cole, Tom [R]
OR-2 Walden, Greg [R]
PA-15 Dent, Charles [R]
PA-18 Murphy, Tim [R]
PA-19 Platts, Todd [R]
PA-5 Thompson, Glenn [R]
PA-6 Gerlach, Jim [R]
TN-1 Roe, David [R]
VA-1 Wittman, Rob [R]
VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
WA-5 McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [R]
WA-8 Reichert, Dave [R]
WI-6 Petri, Thomas [R]
WV-2 Capito, Shelley [R]

43 posted on 03/19/2009 6:49:32 AM PDT by weef
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To: mnehring; steve-b

Thank you for posting this violent affront to our American rights, Mnehring.

Steve, now is neither the time to attack George Bush with a specious reference to a dissimilar proposal, nor the time to dilute the dire nature of this abrogation of the Bill of Rights by your desire to throw blame back at Bush.

Your tagline is also backwards. It should read, “The pseudo-science of biological evolutionism is to the truth of Intelligent Design....”


44 posted on 03/19/2009 8:04:35 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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