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ACTION NEEDED! NATIONAL GIVE ACT H R 1388 Passed House 321-105/Now Goes to Senate
Thomas (Library of Congress) ^ | 3-18-09 | BHO

Posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:15 AM PDT by cgk

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 140
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 1388      YEA-AND-NAY      18-Mar-2009      4:39 PM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act

Yeas Nays PRES NV
Democratic 251 1   2
Republican 70 104   4
Independent        
TOTALS 321 105   6


---- YEAS    321 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Adler (NJ)
Altmire
Andrews
Arcuri
Austria
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baldwin
Barrow
Bean
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Boyd
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Braley (IA)
Bright
Brown, Corrine
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Buchanan
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Camp
Cao
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Diaz-Balart, M.
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Green, Gene
Griffith
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Miller, George
Minnick
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Rogers (MI)
Rooney
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Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
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Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
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Schiff
Schock
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
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Waxman
Weiner
Welch
Wexler
Wilson (OH)
Wittman
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth
Young (AK)
Young (FL)

---- NAYS    105 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachmann
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett
Barton (TX)
Berry
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Blackburn
Blunt
Boehner
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Graves
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Hensarling
Herger
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Issa
Jenkins
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan (OH)
King (IA)
Kingston
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Lamborn
Latta
Linder
Luetkemeyer
Lummis
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
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Mica
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Myrick
Neugebauer
Nunes
Paul
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Posey
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Radanovich
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Rohrabacher
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Royce
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Sessions
Shadegg
Shuster
Smith (NE)
Smith (TX)
Stearns
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Wamp
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wilson (SC)

---- NOT VOTING    6 ---

Boustany
Gohmert
Hinchey
Miller, Gary
Olson
Sanchez, Loretta




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Atlas Shrugs is ahead of the curve on this one as usual: House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill


CONTACT YOUR SENATORS

This cannot pass.

1 posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:16 AM PDT by cgk
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

ping


2 posted on 03/19/2009 9:45:37 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

Surely everyone wants to work as a slave for Dear Leader.


3 posted on 03/19/2009 9:48:21 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: joygrace; HollyB; Saoirise

Ping!


4 posted on 03/19/2009 9:49:38 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: joygrace

Here’s another.


5 posted on 03/19/2009 9:51:30 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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SUMMARY OF BILL:

SUMMARY AS OF:
3/9/2009--Introduced.

Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act or the GIVE Act - Amends the National and Community Service Act of 1990 (NSCA) and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973 (DVSA) to revise the programs under such Acts and reauthorize appropriations for such programs through FY2014.

Revises under NSCA: (1) the School-Based and Community-Based Service-Learning programs and Higher Education Innovative Programs for Community Service (Learn and Serve programs); (2) National Service Trust programs (AmeriCorps); (3) the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC); and (4) the Investment for Quality and Innovation program.

Eliminates the current Community-Based Learn and Serve programs.

Establishes two new Learn and Serve programs: (1) Campuses of Service, which provides funds to institutions of higher education to develop or disseminate exemplary service-learning programs that assist their students' pursuit of public service careers; and (2) Innovative Service-Learning Programs and Research, which funds community service-learning opportunities for elementary and secondary, college, and graduate students as well as research into service-learning.

Includes among eligible AmeriCorps programs: (1) an Education Corps to address unmet educational needs; (2) a Healthy Futures Corps to address unmet health needs; (3) a Clean Energy Corps to address unmet environmental needs; and (4) a Veterans Corps to address the unmet needs of veterans and their families.

Creates AmeriCorps Opportunity Corps programs that include certain existing programs and new programs to: (1) increase community access to technology; (2) engage citizens in public safety, health, and emergency preparedness services; (3) mentor youth; (4) reduce recidivism by re-engaging court-involved youth; and (5) support the needs of veterans or active duty service members and their families.

Establishes an Education Awards Only program authorizing the Corporation for National and Community Service (Corporation) to provide fixed-amount grants to programs that have approved national service positions, but no AmeriCorps funding.

Sets the National Service educational awards for full-time AmeriCorps, NCCC, and Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA) participants at a level equal to the maximum available Pell Grant available to students under the Higher Education Act of 1965.

Includes among needs to be met under the NCCC program, disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development.

Requires states to develop comprehensive plans for volunteer and paid service by Baby Boomers and older adults.

Directs the Corporation to plan pilot programs to: (1) better target and serve displaced workers; and (2) establish a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education.

Authorizes the Corporation to treat September 11th annually as a National Day of Service and Remembrance.

Establishes within the Investment for Quality and Innovation program: (1) a ServeAmerica Fellowships program providing fellowships to individuals chosen by states to participate in service projects addressing certain areas of national need; (2) a Silver Scholarship Grant Program providing scholarships to individuals age 55 or older who complete at least 500 hours of service in a year in an area of national need; and (3) an Encore Fellowships program providing one-year fellowships to individuals age 55 or older who serve in areas of national need and receive training to transition to public service employment. Makes ServeAmerica fellows eligible for national service educational awards.

Authorizes the Corporation to provide grants to innovative and model service programs, including those for disadvantaged youth, youth under age 17, and potential recidivists.

Eliminates federal funding for the Points of Light Foundation.

Revises under DVSA: (1) the VISTA program; and (2) the Senior Corps, including the Retired and Senior Volunteer program (RSVP), the Foster Grandparent program, and the Senior Companion program.

Gives priority in VISTA participant selection to disadvantaged youth and retired adults of any profession.

Authorizes new VISTA grant programs of national significance that provide poor and rural communities with: (1) services reintegrating formerly incarcerated individuals into society; (2) financial literacy and planning; (3) before-school and after-school services; (4) community economic development initiatives; (5) assistance to veterans and their families; and (6) health and wellness services. Eliminates the VISTA Literacy Corps, University Year for VISTA, and Literacy Challenge Grant programs.

Raises the minimum and maximum stipend provided to VISTA participants.

Prioritizes RSVP projects in specified areas.

Makes anyone 55 years of age or older eligible as Senior Corps volunteers.

Provides, under the Senior Corps demonstration program, incentive matching grants to Senior Corps programs that exceed specified performance measures, enroll most of their volunteers in outcome-based service programs, and increase their enrollment of Baby Boomer volunteers.

Expresses the sense of the Congress that the number of AmeriCorps, VISTA, and NCCC participants should reach 250,000 by 2014.

Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes a Congressional Commission on Civic Service to provide recommendations to Congress on improving opportunities for individuals to volunteer or perform national service.

FULL TEXT (temporary link)

6 posted on 03/19/2009 9:52:05 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk
I got your "manditory service"....RIGHT HERE!


7 posted on 03/19/2009 9:53:51 AM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: cgk

F U B 0


8 posted on 03/19/2009 9:56:35 AM PDT by unkus
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Here's Rahm laughing about what he wrote about in The Plan: video link
9 posted on 03/19/2009 9:57:32 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

I just emailed both my senators, Cochran and Wicker.


10 posted on 03/19/2009 10:01:55 AM PDT by Stormy_MS1
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To: cgk

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS

Perhaps we should ask each Senator how they’re going to spend their three years or whatever “Giving” to causes outside their comfort zone...congress.


11 posted on 03/19/2009 10:05:08 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Stormy_MS1

Remember you can “become” a constituant of any senator. Use Superpages, make up names and addresses.

THey have ACORN, we have superpages ! This is WAR.


12 posted on 03/19/2009 10:05:25 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: cgk; 3catsanadog; Albert Barr; Allegra; autumnraine; Babsig; bamahead; BlackElk; blueyon; ...

The HR 1388 Bill, “Give” Act Ping List


PING!


PING me or....

Please FReepmail me to let me know if you want to be Added or Deleted from the "Ping List."

Thank you


13 posted on 03/19/2009 10:05:44 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: Reagan69

Right on!


14 posted on 03/19/2009 10:06:35 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Stormy_MS1

Hatch is one of my Senators - lost cause. We need to get rid of him.


15 posted on 03/19/2009 10:08:11 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: Pride in the USA
I'm stunned that our consistently conservative Representative was one of only 70 Republicans voting FOR this piece of socialist legislation. I've emailed her to express my extreme disappointment and demand an explanation. You may wish to do the same: Link to email

I don't see any possibility that this will not easily pass the Senate.

16 posted on 03/19/2009 10:12:08 AM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: cgk
I'm disgusted to see both Simpson and Minnick voting in favor of involuntary servitude.
17 posted on 03/19/2009 10:12:23 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: cgk

At least our “adopted” congresswoman (Michelle Bachmann) voted against this travesty. Make a note to send her some more money. She’s awesome.

Charlie Dent’s a spineless tool. Eff him.


18 posted on 03/19/2009 10:13:07 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cgk

I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?


19 posted on 03/19/2009 10:13:38 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: cgk

“Authorizes the Corporation to treat September 11th annually as a National Day of Service and Remembrance.”

That is sick.


20 posted on 03/19/2009 10:13:47 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Myrddin

I wasn’t surprised by our own squishy congressman Charlie Dent voting aye, but I was surprised to see our old rep Bilbray on the list of Ayes.


21 posted on 03/19/2009 10:14:52 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Dad was my hero

I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?
_________________________________

You beat me to it. I don’t see anything ‘mandatory”, either.


22 posted on 03/19/2009 10:16:08 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Dad was my hero

This link to the bill in govtrack should take you right to the offending section: 61-4(b) 5-7

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355


23 posted on 03/19/2009 10:18:07 AM PDT by elc
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To: elc; Dad was my hero

Should be: 6104(b) 5-7


24 posted on 03/19/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by elc
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To: Dad was my hero; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I’m not seeing the “mandatory” part of this legislation, what am I missing?


I haven't had a chance to read all the text yet, but this is from Atlas Shrugs:

'Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.'

Also see this for those outside of 'secondary schools': 'Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”'

25 posted on 03/19/2009 10:20:20 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

FYI, if you use GovTrack to get to the bill, you can link right to any offending sections you want to highlight.

Example: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=rh&nid=t0%3Arh%3A2355


26 posted on 03/19/2009 10:20:23 AM PDT by elc
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To: unkus

see post #25


27 posted on 03/19/2009 10:21:37 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Dad was my hero
(3) YOUTH ENGAGEMENT ZONE PROGRAM- The term ‘youth engagement zone program’ means a service learning program in which members of an eligible partnership described in paragraph (4) collaborate to provide coordinated school-based or community-based service learning opportunities, to address a specific community challenge, for an increasing percentage of out-of-school youth and secondary school students served by local educational agencies where--
‘(A) not less than 90 percent of the students participate in service-learning activities as part of the program; or

‘(B) service-learning is a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.

And:

(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.

(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.

(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.

(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives.

(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.

(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.

(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.

(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the ‘baby boomer’ generation.


28 posted on 03/19/2009 10:21:56 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: elc

Thank you very much, I did not know that!


29 posted on 03/19/2009 10:22:24 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: elc; cgk
Thanks much!

Guess I'll get to spend some quality time in jail while I wait for my mandatory time to be up!

30 posted on 03/19/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: cgk

Unconstitutional on oh so many levels.


31 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:29 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect")
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To: cgk

They got their foot in the door. Now they’re free to kick it in. The language allows them to do exactly what 0bama and Rahmbo have already stated they intend to do.

They’re coming for the young ones.


32 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:35 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cgk

What is the Senate Bill Number?


33 posted on 03/19/2009 10:25:48 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (America's Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: cgk

I’ll say this: There are a lot of veterans, like me, who

are going to “voluntarily” go back on “Active Duty”.

They’re going to find out about voluntary service.


34 posted on 03/19/2009 10:26:28 AM PDT by unkus
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To: cgk
I was surprised to see Bilbray in the Ayes too. Tom McClintock, Duncan Hunter and Daryl Issa were all NOs. Good on them!
35 posted on 03/19/2009 10:27:23 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: cgk

I’ll be damned if I’m going to let my children become subject to conscription under this “National Service Bill” by our federal government for ANYTHING of this sort...

TIME TO CALL, WRITE and basically RAISE HELL! Our youth will NOT support this! One of the things I heard younger people who supported Obama actually worry about was some sort of a draft. Well, this may not be for “military service”, but it is conscription nonetheless.

Your body, your time, your energy do not exist to become fodder for our government. They have NO RIGHT to demand these things of us...


36 posted on 03/19/2009 10:28:54 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: unkus; Dad was my hero

Did y’all go to the link? It’s in there.


37 posted on 03/19/2009 10:30:09 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: cgk

Do you know where we can find a breakdown according to party on this? Just out of curiosity...


38 posted on 03/19/2009 10:30:29 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Witness the birth of the Obama Jugend.
39 posted on 03/19/2009 10:31:50 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: cgk

I’ve been trying to get onto the Senate site from every which angle for the past 15 minutes. Anyone else having trouble? Seems a bit coinky-dinky.


41 posted on 03/19/2009 10:32:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Definitely about Bachman!

And I found the infamous change.gov website screenshots before & after scrubs that scared the bejeezus out of B and her friends when it stated it would "require" 50 hours of service" from middle/high schoolers and 100 hrs from college students.. Click the pic for an enlargement...

So they tried to deny it existed... and here we are again, back where they wanted to be. Remind you of anyone?

42 posted on 03/19/2009 10:33:47 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

My boys will do ‘community service’ in the Boy Scouts. Kiss my ass, Obama.


43 posted on 03/19/2009 10:34:11 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: Dad was my hero

Guess I’ll get to spend some quality time in jail while I wait for my mandatory time to be up!
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I’ll go back on Active Duty.


44 posted on 03/19/2009 10:37:14 AM PDT by unkus
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To: thecabal

I did, yes, thanks. Just cleaning my brains off the monitor after my head exploded!


45 posted on 03/19/2009 10:37:14 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Dad was my hero

I suspect we older folks are going to be off the hook. If this turns out anything like what was originally posted under National Service at change.gov (before it was scrubbed) it was targeted at the under-25 crowd.


46 posted on 03/19/2009 10:37:39 AM PDT by elc
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Oh no. No “homophobic” orgs will be allowed to count towards this service requirement, guaranteed.


47 posted on 03/19/2009 10:38:05 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
“They got their foot in the door. Now they're free to kick it in. The language allows them to do exactly what Obama and Rahmbo have already stated they intend to do.

They're coming for the young ones.”

YEP! William Ayers must be smiling.

11/5/08

“OBAMA WANTS TO FORCE LABOR FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127959/posts
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11/9/08

“OBAMA REQUIRES COMMUNITY SERVICE AND REMOVES HIS AGENDA FROM WEBSITE AFTER SCRUTINY”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2128883/posts
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11/11/08

“RAHM EMANUEL, OBAMA'S CHIEF OF STAFF, ON MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130387/posts
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11/12/08

“RAHM EMANUEL EXPECTS ‘A LOT’ FROM CIVIL DEFENSE CORPS [Ben Smith Podcast]”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130604/posts
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“OBAMA'S “UNIVERSAL” SERVICE PLAN
Training a Socialist army of World servers”
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm

48 posted on 03/19/2009 10:38:39 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

RINOs like him are what you will get from PA.


49 posted on 03/19/2009 10:42:44 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: unkus

I’ll stand right there next to you patriot!


50 posted on 03/19/2009 10:45:33 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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