"if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”

3-21-09 | Uncle Sham

[null and void]

Welcome to FR!

The twin problems are that Hawai’i will issue a Hawaiian birth certificate to a foreign born child, and no one who is not in the 0bama camp has seen a paper copy of the certification of birth posted on the Daily KOS and FactCheck web sights.

It gets much more complicated than that, with all kinds of information indicating something isn’t right, but the fact that 0bama won’t release a copy of his true long form birth certificate is the core of the problem.

Reasonable people find it very suspicious that in order to avoid releasing a form that would cost ~$20 to get in hand, hundreds of thousands (some say over a million) dollars have been spent on legal fees.

[Uncle Sham]

You ask lots of questions don’t you. Too bad the one you really should be asking isn’t one of them. Why can’t we see Obama’s proof of “qualifications” to serve as OUR President?

[screaminsunshine]

This qualification would only be relevent if the USA government paid any attention to the Constitution. It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that they do not.

[FrankR]

"Unfortunately, only those who have standing to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama may bring an action. However, anyone who brings an action seeking to challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, ipso facto, does not have standing to bring such an action. "

Your comment is a bit vague, but as I recall only those who have "standing" can actually see the birth certificate, i.e. spouse, relative, etc.

However, I don't think bringing an action against commiebama to force him to prove his eligibility requires such standing; it should be that any American citizen can demand that their pres_ent must prove his eligibility.

But as another poster said, he had to prove it to someone at some time, and if that person passed him with a phony document we would never know it with all this secrecy.

If people are getting P.O.'d at his policies now, think how we'd all feel if we later found out he was totally ineligible to be pres_ent in the first place.

I think his rise to power was an elaborate plan, and that book - "Dreams of my Father" was smokescreen to dilute the suspicion of his nationality/citizenship status, thereby qualifying him as Teleprompter Reader in Chief.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[packman]

The birth issue is important because it could make many of his executive orders null and void.

If his allegiance is not to this country, it affects his decision making. In fact it already has. He seems to look more favorably on the terrorists who have tried to harm our country than the people he is supposed to be representing. He is intentionally doing things to hurt our economy and our national safety.

I personally do not think he is a natural born citizen. If he were, he would have shown the original birth certificate by now.Eric Holder was right. We are a nation of cowards. If we weren’t, we would demand proof of the birth certificate.

[dr huer]

The long form states his mother is a virgin. He considers that its not yet time to reveal his divine paternity.

[freekitty]

His not being a natural citizen is a very real issue. If he is not; he should step down.

[SERKIT]

Indeed! All Hawaii said was, “Yup! He was born!”, and that’s about it. Foreign-born babies could have received a valid statement that says “Yup! I was born!”, but simply being born does not qualify one to hold the Office of the President.

[packman]

It may be the only legal means to get him out of office.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

"To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented?"

Have you contacted any election official in Louisiana to determine how Barack Obama got on the ballot as a presidential candidate? Is it as simple as checking a box on a form that asks if you're a natural born citizen, or is there a process and qualifying paperwork required?

[JavaJumpy]

There is a difference between a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth (COLB). And yes, Hawaii did for a period of time issue birth certificates to those born outside of their state, but I’m not one who studies these things. Perhaps someone else can point you out to the threads that go into this into detail or would care to explain.

[John Valentine]

I am asking a genuine question here, not trying to pick a fight.

You are VERY late to the debate and have missed virtually ALL the explications and explanations that 99% of the folks on this board are already familiar with, such as the fact that one did NOT need to be born in Hawaii in 1961 to be issued a Hawaiian COLB.

Don't believe it? Well, you had better believe it, because it is a fact. Check it out. Proper searches right here on Free Republic will give you all the references you need to educate yourself on the subject.