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4 Cops Shot, Suspect Dead After Calif. Traffic Stop
MSNBC.com ^ | March 21, 2009

Posted on 03/21/2009 7:32:26 PM PDT by Steelfish

4 cops shot, suspect dead after Calif. traffic stop

Police say suspect behind two separate shootings involving officers

OAKLAND, Calif. - Four officers were in critical condition and a suspect dead on Saturday after gunfire at a traffic stop led to a massive manhunt that ended in a shootout, police said.

Two officers were shot in the first incident just after 1 p.m. after they stopped the suspect's vehicle in east Oakland, said Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason.

The suspect fled the scene on foot into a nearby neighborhood, police said, leading to an intense manhunt by dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies.

Streets were roped off and an entire area of east Oakland shut to traffic.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; leo; lovellemixon; mixon; oakland; officerdown; officersdown; shooting
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1 posted on 03/21/2009 7:32:27 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

OK, Who takes bets it`s an illegal alien?


2 posted on 03/21/2009 7:34:53 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: He who knoweth not his name

I’m betting on an Obama supporter.


3 posted on 03/21/2009 7:36:04 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Exactly! (Illegal alien)


4 posted on 03/21/2009 7:37:29 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: He who knoweth not his name
OK, Who takes bets it`s an illegal alien?

Whoever it was knew how to shoot and/or had some formidable firepower. All four cops are dead.

Four police officers shot [and killed] in Oakland, [suspect dead]

5 posted on 03/21/2009 7:37:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: He who knoweth not his name

Sensitive situation: Another illegal alien.


6 posted on 03/21/2009 7:38:20 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Drew68

Damn, they`re dead now? That wasn`t in the story.


7 posted on 03/21/2009 7:39:18 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Drew68

Yep. Only criminals are allowed to have formidable firepower.


8 posted on 03/21/2009 7:40:10 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: He who knoweth not his name

Zetas are trained in military tactics


9 posted on 03/21/2009 7:40:29 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Steelfish

Darn!They really need tougher gun control laws out there,don’t they? </sarcasm>


10 posted on 03/21/2009 7:43:00 PM PDT by massmike
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To: Steelfish
More carnage in yet another RAT stronghold.

God rest the souls and bless the families of these officers.

11 posted on 03/21/2009 7:43:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: He who knoweth not his name; Steelfish
Exactly! (Illegal alien)

I dunno...Oakland isn't exactly known for it's "Mexican" population

12 posted on 03/21/2009 7:45:19 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Traffic stops are when they go crazy, if they get away, they get another identity due to the stupid a$$ matricular cards.


13 posted on 03/21/2009 7:47:18 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: All

http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/1799351-Four-Calif-cops-shot-suspect-killed-in-standoff/

#

http://www.ktvu.com/news/18983600/detail.html

“Officers Wounded, Suspect Dead In Oakland Shootings”
Posted: 1:37 pm PDT March 21, 2009
Updated: 7:21 pm PDT March 21, 2009

OAKLAND, Calif. -

SNIPPET: “Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason said all four officers were in critical condition at Highland Hospital.”

SNIPPET: “”At this point we don’t believe there are other people involved, but it’s too early to tell,” he said.”


14 posted on 03/21/2009 7:48:18 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oakland has more than a few gangs. MS-13 comes to mind for one but there are a number of asian gangs that could be involved as well.

Will be curious where this perp kept his cache of weapons and what else he had access to.


15 posted on 03/21/2009 7:49:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: He who knoweth not his name

If it is an illegal, they will try to hide it maybe due to the backlash it will cause. As an ex-fed officer I am UPSET!


16 posted on 03/21/2009 7:50:18 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: BurbankKarl

Ping.


17 posted on 03/21/2009 7:51:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: He who knoweth not his name

Please, I am asking you to knock off the illegal alien stuff on this thread, as a fellow FReeper. This is a very dark day, what happened today was about as bad as it gets in the law enforcement community.

I share your concerns about illegals, but it doesn’t belong on this thread unless new info develops and I don’t think it will.


18 posted on 03/21/2009 7:53:07 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: Cindy

Thanks for that post.

I’m gonna check the CBS 5 site and see if they still have 5 dead there or if it has been changed.

Nope.. They still have

Mar 21, 2009 7:08 pm US/Pacific

4 Oakland Officers Fatally Shot, Gunman Dead
OAKLAND (CBS 5/BCN/KCBS)

http://cbs5.com/local/shooting.officer.oakland.2.964784.html
Dozens of police officers block an intersection in East Oakland during an intense manhunt for the suspect who shot officers during a traffic stop.

Law enforcement sources said that four officers are dead, along with a suspect after a traffic stop led to a massive manhunt in the streets of East Oakland.

It all began with the the fatal shooting of two officers during a traffic stop near 73rd and Hillside Streets, around 1 p.m. Saturday. The gunman fled and police closed off the surrounding streets to traffic while dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies conducted an intense search for the suspect.

At about 3:10 p.m., a SWAT team confronted the suspect barricaded inside an apartment building close to location of the first shooting. Gunfire was exchanged between the two parties, fatally wounding two more officers, and killing the suspect.


19 posted on 03/21/2009 7:53:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

muzzies?


20 posted on 03/21/2009 7:54:05 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: He who knoweth not his name

I left because of PC crap...anybody got an update?


21 posted on 03/21/2009 7:54:32 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: He who knoweth not his name

“OK, Who takes bets it`s an illegal alien?”

#

OPINION-SPECULATION:

Too early to tell and not enough details regarding the suspect
who has been identified.

The deceased suspect will probably end up being one of the gangbangers in Oakland.


22 posted on 03/21/2009 7:54:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: KJC1

OK, How many have been shot in a traffic stop....thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 03/21/2009 7:55:39 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Drew68
All four cops are dead.

Oh my gosh. That is so sad!

24 posted on 03/21/2009 7:56:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: He who knoweth not his name; NormsRevenge
Wow, that's not the Oakland I knew :)

Seriously, It's been a while since I've been there so I guess it's changed.

I guess the infestation of gangs is just about everywhere in these United States and we have no one to blame but the group in DC. This crap (for lack of a better word) goes on daily in our country and so what are the people pissed off about? 150 million in bonuses.

25 posted on 03/21/2009 7:57:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: KJC1

I’m so sorry!


26 posted on 03/21/2009 7:57:15 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: He who knoweth not his name

If you want to be a jerk, I can’t stop you. I thought my request was respectful and reasonable.

I am a police officer here in CA, and this is hitting hard, especially since I have knowledge I can’t share here.


27 posted on 03/21/2009 7:58:10 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: Let's Roll

get real.

when’s the last time you heard of an Islamic man going one-on-one with another man?

Now if a bunch of pre-schooler’s were shot and killed you might have a point.


28 posted on 03/21/2009 7:58:52 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Let's Roll
muzzies?

We could both be right

29 posted on 03/21/2009 7:59:01 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: Cindy

oakland tribune has it

THREE OFFICERS DEAD, SUSPECT KILLED IN EAST OAKLAND GUN BATTLES

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_11967257

OAKLAND — Three Oakland police officers were shot to death, one in is critically injured in two separate incidents involving one suspect near the Eastmont police substation this afternoon, a police spokesperson said.

Initial reports from law enforcement sources had stated that four officers were killed. However, police revised that statement a short time ago.

The first shooting happened in the 7400 block of MacArthur Boulevard about 1:16 p.m. today when two motorcycle officers were wounded. What led to the shooting was not immediately known.

About 3:20 p.m., two more police officers were wounded in an exchange of gunfire with the suspect while trying to take him into custody in the 2700 block of 74th Avenue. That suspect was shot and killed.


30 posted on 03/21/2009 7:59:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: All

UPDATE:

http://www.kgoam810.com/Article.asp?id=1230302&nId=0&spid=30365

“Four Oakland Police Officers Shot and Killed”

SNIPPET: “(OAKLAND - KGO RADIO) Four Oakland police officers have died as a result of their injuries after they were shot by one gunman this afternoon in two separate incidents.”


31 posted on 03/21/2009 7:59:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: kcvl

I try not to speculate, It`s the MO that I see.


32 posted on 03/21/2009 7:59:50 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Steelfish

Oakland’s new tactics on crime appear to help

Chip Johnson

Friday, March 13, 2009

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/13/MN0R16EF2K.DTL&hw=oakland&sn=093&sc=113

or maybe not


33 posted on 03/21/2009 8:00:06 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: Steelfish

Four cops dead and all we care about here is what we perceive was police brutality at the BART station in the very same Oakland three months ago. Don’t forget those ugly threads by the knowitalls who saw some cellphone videos and were ready to indict the police.


34 posted on 03/21/2009 8:01:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Steelfish

It’s fortunate that the perp died. At least Hollywood luminaries are now deprived of a “Cause Celebre.”


35 posted on 03/21/2009 8:01:22 PM PDT by VR-21 ("I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Senator Howard Metzenbaum)
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Three Oakland police officers killed, one critically wounded after traffic stop, shootout

“I went over to one officer and saw he was bleeding from his helmet pretty bad,” he said. “The other officer was laying motionless.”

He said the officer lying near a car had two gun shot bullets near in his face. One bullet was lodged in his jaw and the other in his neck.

The man proceeded to give the officer CPR until police arrived on the scene, he said.

http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_11968175


36 posted on 03/21/2009 8:01:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Seriously, It's been a while since I've been there so I guess it's changed.

Oakland is a very dangerous place with or without the gangs. There's a whole lot of crime goin on there. I've had the misfortune to be there numerous times over the last few years.

37 posted on 03/21/2009 8:02:30 PM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: Hammerhead
when’s the last time you heard of an Islamic man going one-on-one with another man?

Malvo

38 posted on 03/21/2009 8:02:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: Steelfish

The fact the ‘suspect’ is now a corpse without a trial among peers does not bother me.


39 posted on 03/21/2009 8:02:59 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Steelfish

About 100 officers were gathered outside the entrance to the hospital’s emergency room, waiting desperately for information about their wounded friends and colleagues. Some of them were wearing SWAT gear, while others were wearing baseball jerseys after having raced from a game.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/21/BAVB16KU75.DTL&tsp=1


40 posted on 03/21/2009 8:03:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: KJC1

NOT BEING A JERK, If you are a cop there, show your outrage at the sanctuary! I was on a federal level. I respect your thoughts...but when will we at least eliminate the element that is not lawfully here?


41 posted on 03/21/2009 8:03:40 PM PDT by He who knoweth not his name
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To: Steelfish

There are slums in Rio de Janeiro where the police won’t go. Maybe it’s time to implement a similar policy for the U.S. cities where the police are despised by those they seek to protect.


42 posted on 03/21/2009 8:04:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: He who knoweth not his name

An illegal Obama supporter? Why not an atheist Darwinist? How about a gun-grabbing abortionist?


43 posted on 03/21/2009 8:04:39 PM PDT by Misterioso (Obama was elected not in spite of his color but because of it.)
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To: He who knoweth not his name

A massive manhunt then got underway and about two hours later, the suspect was located at an apartment in East Oakland, not far from the initial shooting. Acting police chief Howard Jordan told reporters police were tipped off that the suspect was in a nearby apartment. Officers and the SWAT team moved in and two other police officers were shot by the suspect.

All four police died this evening at Highland hospital where hundreds of fellow police officers have gathered. The suspect was killed. None of the officers or the dead assailant have been identified. Oakland police will hold a news briefing later tonight at police headquarters with more details.

http://www.kgoam810.com/Article.asp?id=1230302&nId=0&spid=30365


44 posted on 03/21/2009 8:06:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Exactly, I wouldn’t jump to that as my first conclusion with this being Oakland.


45 posted on 03/21/2009 8:07:23 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: umgud
Yeah, Oakland's always been a hell hole. I just thought a certain segment of the population had that turf locked up. But I forgot about diversity and how good it is and all that. :)
46 posted on 03/21/2009 8:07:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Wake up people, AIG executives are not the enemy, your Government is!)
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To: KJC1

> I am a police officer here in CA, and this is hitting hard, especially since I have knowledge I can’t share here.

Thoughts and prayers up from New Zealand, FRiend, to you and your brother officers. Thanks for your Service, and stay safe out there.

*DieHard*


47 posted on 03/21/2009 8:07:43 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: kcvl

My prayers and condolences for the officers and their families.

It’s a very difficult job that our police have and it’s not getting easier, either. Sometimes there are stories here about the police that anger me, but I always try to keep in mind that they are putting there butts on the line every day to maintain order in our society, and it is a high-risk occupation, double that in places like Oakland.

One only has to look at Mexico to see how much worse off everyone is when the police are corrupt or just give up.

It’s my studied opinion that the overwhelming majority of our police (including the few I’ve had the privilge to know personally) are stand up men and woman, who take all aspects of their jobs very seriously.

It is a terrible tragedy for all of us when good men fall in the line of duty like this.

May god have mercy on our fallen heros.


48 posted on 03/21/2009 8:09:08 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: kcvl

If only we could bring the killer back to life so that we could kill him again, more slowly.

I grieve for the families of the slain officers and really, for all of us. Prayers being said.


49 posted on 03/21/2009 8:09:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: KJC1

It’s hard when Officer goes down, KJC1.

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http://www.odmp.org/


50 posted on 03/21/2009 8:10:04 PM PDT by Cindy
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