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4 Cops Shot, Suspect Dead After Calif. Traffic Stop
MSNBC.com ^ | March 21, 2009

Posted on 03/21/2009 7:32:26 PM PDT by Steelfish

4 cops shot, suspect dead after Calif. traffic stop

Police say suspect behind two separate shootings involving officers

OAKLAND, Calif. - Four officers were in critical condition and a suspect dead on Saturday after gunfire at a traffic stop led to a massive manhunt that ended in a shootout, police said.

Two officers were shot in the first incident just after 1 p.m. after they stopped the suspect's vehicle in east Oakland, said Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason.

The suspect fled the scene on foot into a nearby neighborhood, police said, leading to an intense manhunt by dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies.

Streets were roped off and an entire area of east Oakland shut to traffic.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; leo; lovellemixon; mixon; oakland; officerdown; officersdown; shooting
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To: dragnet2
Let me guess. His momma says he was never in 'no trouble'. He was a ‘good boy’ just got harassed by all those racists cops. /s
401 posted on 03/22/2009 12:24:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: going hot

Damn!
Do you guys still have all your fingers?


402 posted on 03/22/2009 12:27:16 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: El Gato

It’s really sad that we haven’t preserved the America of our youth for our grandchildren...

I’ve a 17 year old grandson who really seems to doubt some of my stories of “how it was”........

I’m convinced we had the best of all possible worlds....which now seems to be lost to a society I don’t even recognize as American........


403 posted on 03/22/2009 12:30:37 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Had to look, but, yeah, they are still all attached.

Seems like we were all looked after by personal angels during those years.

404 posted on 03/22/2009 12:30:59 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: kcvl
No doubt they'll beat those drums.

And the local cop hating bucket mouths will try to tie this in with the BART incident, trying to convince the easily led that this is all a result of citizens lashing out at police brutality.

405 posted on 03/22/2009 12:33:40 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: river rat; El Gato

> It’s really sad that we haven’t preserved the America of our youth for our grandchildren...

I am absolutely, positively convinced we can have our Civilization back. But it means that we have to take it back, bit by bit, slice by slice, piece by piece, incrementally once step at a time.

The same way we’ve been losing it.


406 posted on 03/22/2009 12:34:14 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

What did they do? When I checked it earlier they had taken it down, did they put it back up?


407 posted on 03/22/2009 1:30:15 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

They make you confirm your age. Then you can see it.

In all, a pathetically inadequate response from YouTube.


408 posted on 03/22/2009 1:31:35 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; Arizona Carolyn
They make you confirm your age.

Nope. I was just able to open it...unlike EARLIER when I had to confirm my age by pressing a button.

409 posted on 03/22/2009 1:32:47 AM PDT by Brads Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Steelfish

This person, and others like him/her are the reason we have 4 cops killed, gangs ruling areas of every city, an idiot in the White House and appeasement to terrorists.

Check out this post - if this does not sum up why are country is down the toilet, nothing else will.

http://forums.insidebayarea.com/topic/oakland-police-officers-slain?source=article

Saturday, 3/21/2009 - 11:30 p.m. PDT — Innocent? “Peace” Officers = Phony disstraction

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2

How many of those officers were from Oakland?

The suburbs should not be policing Oaktown.

Maybe this guy was fed up with the OPD, the biggest weapons carriers in the city. Who knows what the police said to him, how they treated him. Will we ever know? The police are the ones who hold all of the evidence, write the reports, investigate corruption...

The police ruin peoples lives everyday. They send fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers to jails/concentration camps. They take OUR money to do evil.

What if every police station in Oakland were instead a community center with free food and health care?

This man may have killed 3 cops, but think about how many lives those cops had already taken. Police do the devil’s work and shouldn’t expect immunity.

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410 posted on 03/22/2009 1:32:53 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Well, that sucks big time... youtube disgusts me at times and this is one of those times. I’m going to bed... nite.


411 posted on 03/22/2009 1:33:33 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Brytani

yeah, like free food and health care is going to stop a career criminal who is wanted for probation violations from killing a few police officers because he is not going back to jail and plans to take a few innocents along with him.... I’m sick of this give me attitude, it’s what’s ruining this country.


412 posted on 03/22/2009 1:36:09 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

4:32am EST and the sickening video as well as the video’s sickening postings are still up.

Youtube will ban/censor an anti-Obama video quicker then you can say Bailout! but celebrating the deaths of 4 Police Officers gets a free pass.

At least they did stop further comments about the video....


413 posted on 03/22/2009 1:44:18 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: Religion Moderator

My Lord, sometimes FR seems like a dysfunctional Kindergarten class doesn’t it?

Sad that a post concerning the death of 4 police officers has turned into juvenile “my keyboard is bigger than yours” posts.


414 posted on 03/22/2009 1:52:12 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; He who knoweth not his name

You both need to grow up, you sound like two kids on a playground


415 posted on 03/22/2009 2:09:46 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Brad's Gramma; Arizona Carolyn

> Nope. I was just able to open it...unlike EARLIER when I had to confirm my age by pressing a button.

So you no longer have to press the button to confirm your age? It just opens up right away?

That REALLY sucks.


416 posted on 03/22/2009 2:14:25 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Yep.

But I was wondering...maybe it’s because I’ve stayed logged in???


417 posted on 03/22/2009 2:15:34 AM PDT by Brads Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

> You both need to grow up, you sound like two kids on a playground

Hey mate, the Mod has asked us to drop it. I intend to respect the Mod’s wishes. Suggest you do the same, ay.


418 posted on 03/22/2009 2:15:35 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; StarCMC

> But I was wondering...maybe it’s because I’ve stayed logged in???

Dunno — lemme go back in and check it out. Standby...

(BTW I wouldn’t be at all surprised if what you say is so. YouTube aren’t known for being particularly good about their civic responsibilities. As anyone on the YouTube SmackDown will attest)


419 posted on 03/22/2009 2:17:57 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Standby...

OK. I'll take the pooches outside for the last time.....and BRB. Don't tell Cindy I'm still online. I told her good night. :)

420 posted on 03/22/2009 2:19:08 AM PDT by Brads Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Brytani
You posted:

This person, and others like him/her are the reason we have 4 cops killed, gangs ruling areas of every city, an idiot in the White House and appeasement to terrorists.

Check out this post - if this does not sum up why are country is down the toilet, nothing else will.

There is animosity (before this shooting) towards the Oakland PD because a Transit Cop shot an unarmed 22 year old man at a train station (BART, I would imagine).

There were people "taunting police officers" at the scene of the traffic stop where one police officer was killed when the police set up a crime scene area...

421 posted on 03/22/2009 2:21:26 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Brad's Gramma; StarCMC

OK, it’s because we’re still signed in.

I signed out and tried to access it again, and it asked me for my age. So at least YouTube isn’t quite so creepy as we thought. It’s tragic, however, that there could be any doubt!

Even so, they ought to yank that video completely.


422 posted on 03/22/2009 2:26:28 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Goodnight Brad’s Gramma.

Tomorrow (today) is another day.


423 posted on 03/22/2009 2:27:02 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: kcvl
This occurred in California...

Texas built more prisons (when Bush was Governor) to keep the hardened criminals off the streets.

California tends to be just a little bit more liberal than Texas (overall).

He was not for murder, but rather assault with a deadly weapon...

424 posted on 03/22/2009 2:28:09 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: El Gato
Police are calling at least weapon involved in the killing of the two SWAT guys, an "assault weapon". But, I'm not up on the latest CA definition of what that might be.

Well it is California


425 posted on 03/22/2009 2:29:49 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: topher
Maybe it is time to rebuild Alcatraz as a prison with 50 story buildings... One could hold more prisoners that way...

One would have to take it away from the the National Park Service first...

426 posted on 03/22/2009 2:36:42 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

That video should STILL NOT BE THERE!

I wish I would’ve posted something earlier over there along with flagging it...


427 posted on 03/22/2009 2:40:08 AM PDT by Brads Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Cindy

:)


428 posted on 03/22/2009 2:40:24 AM PDT by Brads Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

At 5:43am EST the video and site are still up, only action is to block additional comments.

YouTube must have found the site appropriate and put the video back on.


429 posted on 03/22/2009 2:44:49 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Exactly - people like this who can not form a rational line by line, logical thought have garnered enough power in this country to destroy it, bit by bit.

Obama needs to spend a few billions on a new federal agency - Department of Unicorns, Nymphs, Cyclops and Elf’s.


430 posted on 03/22/2009 2:59:52 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: topher

There is always animosity, there are always excuses for cheering the deaths of cops in every city across the country. It is so much easier to believe some cabal of people have the sole purpose of setting up and killing “pick your downtroddin group”.

Personal responsibility isn’t dead, it was never alive in the first place.


431 posted on 03/22/2009 3:04:58 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: Steelfish

Prayers for all the police officers and their families, and colleagues who are mourning them... [I haven’t read through any of the details yet, so I don’t know anything more about this to really comment on any other part of it...]

All I know is that the anti-gun zealots will use this as another excuse to pass more gun laws even though I’m presuming all the “necessary laws” they say will work were already in place in this area, and didn’t work or else this wouldn’t have happened...


432 posted on 03/22/2009 3:14:36 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

This is a case where we have a convicted felon with a warrant out for his arrest possessing an illegal firearm.

Of course the easy answer to this is to disarm non-convict citizens from owning firearms, surely that would have prevented the deaths of these 4 officers.

I’m still not sure what level of reality that illogic stance makes sense....


433 posted on 03/22/2009 3:18:19 AM PDT by Brytani (Obama's Hope and Change - Hope for terrorists and Change left in our wallets)
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To: Goutman916

Can you tell which video has it? The first one doesn’t seem to have it. I wonder if that has been edited out.


434 posted on 03/22/2009 4:20:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: KJC1

I am a police officer here in CA, and this is hitting hard

Wow. My condolences on your losses.
Things may get to the point where this is more common rather than more rare.

Think long and hard about what you will to do if it starts to unravel.
It starts with another Waco type incident.

No need to reply now, sir. Just think about it.


435 posted on 03/22/2009 4:27:43 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Squantos

I’m wondering why they didn’t tear gas him out of that apartment, vs. a dynamic entry. Any thoughts on that?


436 posted on 03/22/2009 4:36:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: Brytani

Was that signed by Jeremiah Wright?


437 posted on 03/22/2009 4:40:01 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: He who knoweth not his name; Candor7; DieHard the Hunter

Without me having to read the rest of this thread, did you two ever get a clue and apologize to Diehard and Arizona Carolyn? Because they’ve been right all along on this, while you guys have been arrogantly wrong.


438 posted on 03/22/2009 4:40:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: KJC1
Thank you for serving.

I have no doubts you have knowledge about this that you can't share. And no doubts, that knowledge you have adds even more burdens to the sorrow you are already carrying. All police officers throughout CA are in my prayers, always have been, will continue to be.

439 posted on 03/22/2009 4:45:01 AM PDT by Alia
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To: amishman

Which Walmart in Winston?


440 posted on 03/22/2009 4:47:56 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: texan75010
San Francisco, right across the Bay from Oakland, cannot fill the vacancies in the police department. That's how bad things are.

Through all the years I was there, the thought continued to come to me, louder, and louder, that the anti-police libbies will come to be "policed" by the gangs. And they do not recognize their own lives and well-being are meaningless to gangs. A thugogracy, created by liberals, run by liberals, to to enslave liberals. And so it incrementally comes to pass.

441 posted on 03/22/2009 4:52:24 AM PDT by Alia
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To: KJC1

Thankyou for your service, sir, and my condolences on this dreadful news. I have spent plenty of time in California and I have a great deal of Respect for the cops up there.

May God bless and keep you and your colleagues safe.

*DieHard the Hunter*


442 posted on 03/22/2009 4:53:06 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I meant to “cc” you on #438 as well.


443 posted on 03/22/2009 5:01:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: He who knoweth not his name
OK, Who takes bets it`s an illegal alien?

How much did you pay out, Genius?

444 posted on 03/22/2009 5:02:24 AM PDT by TankerKC (Revenge and Envy--the new Principles of Freerepublic?)
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To: Brytani
Of course the easy answer to this is to disarm non-convict citizens from owning firearms, surely that would have prevented the deaths of these 4 officers

That'll be the tack they take on it. 

445 posted on 03/22/2009 5:04:14 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Arizona Carolyn
The age is right for them to be related as well as that being a rather uncommon name.

My 9 year old daughter is related to her 67 year old grandpa. What version of logic are you using?

446 posted on 03/22/2009 5:09:13 AM PDT by TankerKC (Revenge and Envy--the new Principles of Freerepublic?)
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To: KJC1

Thank you for your service.

May the good Lord guard and protect all men and women who patrol our great country.


447 posted on 03/22/2009 5:32:20 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (52% of our country is stupid.)
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To: Squantos

I want to read about the 2nd incident, and see what type of weapon was used, the ranges, and where he was aiming.

Somebody who always practices head shots is VERY dangerous if he’s a good shot. There are people who can shoot head sized targets at up to 50 feet faster than most people can shoot torsos. And I am dead serious about that. Some tactical units I could mention don’t even practice the old “2-1” any more, they consider it a waste of time with microseconds count and there are multiple bad guy shooter. They go right for the head from the first shot. And they don’t miss.


448 posted on 03/22/2009 5:47:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Obviously the Rat media is going to try to blame everything except the slimebag for the shooting. They will blame the BART shooting, the cops who tried to stop the guy (They should have negotiated, says the Dim media), the perp’s childhood (He was spanked too many times, was teased at school, and he never ate at McD’s enough), and of course, they will blame the gun.


449 posted on 03/22/2009 5:59:18 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: All

They’ve posted photos of the officers on FOX

http://www.foxnews.com/


450 posted on 03/22/2009 6:08:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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