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Frank: Retention Bonuses Are Extortion
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/22/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4882484.shtml ^

Posted on 03/22/2009 1:42:24 PM PDT by kcvl

Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) told CBS News’ Harry Smith on Face The Nation Sunday that the executive branch ought to use its leverage as a majority shareholder in AIG to sue the company for its wrongful use of retention bonuses.

Retention bonuses are to a great extent extortion, Frank argued. “I think there was an element, frankly, with some — not all of them — of almost extortion, where they said, 'We know what you need to know and we will quit if you don’t bribe us,'” Frank said.

He argued that there is a large pool of very talented people who have lost their jobs in the financial crisis and that AIG could replace the bonus recipients (some of whom are responsible for creating the firm's now-toxic assets) rather than bribe them with retention bonuses.

Frank said he did not agree at all with Chairman of Bank of America Kenneth Lewis’ assertion that the proposed taxation of bonuses for employees of companies receiving U.S. government bailout funds could “have the potential to damage the ability of the government to engineer a financial recovery.”

The congressman defended Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner saying that he inherited an economic fiasco.

“I know some of my Republican colleagues believe in creationism in which the world started 4,004 years ago. But I don’t think any of them want us to believe that it started on January 20, 2009,” Frank joked, arguing that the initial loans to AIG (totaling more than $173 billion) came from the Bush administration “without any Congressional input.”


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1 posted on 03/22/2009 1:42:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Retention Bonuses Are Extortion

Then maybe the white house shouldn't have made sure they would get paid.
2 posted on 03/22/2009 1:44:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: kcvl
This AH needs to be investigated and prosecuted and any one that votes for him has a serious problem
3 posted on 03/22/2009 1:44:38 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: cripplecreek
Headline -->
"Frank Accuses Geithner, Dodd,
Obama in AIG Extortion Racket"

4 posted on 03/22/2009 1:46:16 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: kcvl
"We know what you need to know and we will quit if you don’t bribe us." Gee... this could be extended to everything in commerce:

"We have the groceries you need to eat, and we won't give them to you unless you pay us."

"I can dig the ditch you want but I won't do it unless you pay me."

5 posted on 03/22/2009 1:46:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: kcvl

And Labor Unions never use “extortion”???

And ACORN never uses “extortion”???

Barney Frank’s friends at Freddie and Fannie made a lot more money than any of these bonuses.


6 posted on 03/22/2009 1:47:12 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: kcvl
...Frank joked, arguing that the initial loans to AIG (totaling more than $173 billion) came from the Bush administration “without any Congressional input.”

Is he talking about TARP? If so, then I remember a lot of congressional input, especially since I called mine to stop that train wreck.

7 posted on 03/22/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: kcvl

Bahney Fwank is proof that ANYONE can be a congressman.


8 posted on 03/22/2009 1:48:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: Swordmaker

Good thing about all this is that Frank is being exposed as the lunatic that he is.


9 posted on 03/22/2009 1:49:10 PM PDT by y6162
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To: kcvl

Apparently Frank Rich things the employees belong to the company. He, like most leftards, need to familiarize themselves with the constitution - like the 13th Amendment.


10 posted on 03/22/2009 1:49:24 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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REP. MIKE PENCE, R-IND.

You know, it was back in 2007 that Barney Frank authored a bill that capped executive compensation across the board, well before any bailouts, well before any crisis on Wall Street. And I believe that then-Senator Barack Obama had the companion legislation in the Senate. And now we read this morning that the administration’s talking about broad-based caps on compensation.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003081509


11 posted on 03/22/2009 1:49:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Here's a question for Barney Frank:

If retention bonuses are extortion, then what would you call campaign contributions to Members of Congress?

12 posted on 03/22/2009 1:50:08 PM PDT by chs68
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Really. When I was young I would never have foreseen that a poofter who talks like Elmer Fudd would be allowed to rise to such a position of power. Or that he would stay in power after one gay lover ran a prositution ring out of his house, and another was installed in a cushy job at Fannie or Freddie. What is wrong with the voters in Massachusetts?


13 posted on 03/22/2009 1:51:03 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: kcvl
He argued that there is a large pool of very talented people who have lost their jobs in the financial crisis and that AIG could replace the bonus recipients (some of whom are responsible for creating the firm's now-toxic assets) rather than bribe them with retention bonuses.

Sure Barney, people are lining up to work at AIG especially after you and your mob put a bullseye on every employee's back. Is he really this ignorant to the results of his actions?

14 posted on 03/22/2009 1:51:29 PM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: randog; kcvl

He’s actually incorrect. It was from the Fed, not the Treasury. The Fed is independent and can do whatever the hell it wants. Bush didn’t give them anything.


15 posted on 03/22/2009 1:51:44 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: kcvl

They won’t be happy until they can tell all of us how much money we can make. That way, they can be the lords and we can be the peons.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 1:52:22 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: chs68

Bingo!


17 posted on 03/22/2009 1:52:36 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: cripplecreek

Geithner’s new proposals for mechanisms that would push companies to restructure their own executive compensation packages go well beyond limits already in place in the initial Wall Street bailout program, known as TARP, because they will apply even to companies that have not taken government money.

The new rules will focus on “systemically important financial firms,” said a government official with knowledge of the proposal. “The principals of reform are aimed at getting the financial incentives of employees closer aligned with the interests of their overall institutions.”

The executive-compensation recommendations are part of the hotly anticipated financial-regulatory package that Geithner will present Thursday before House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) as part of a hearing called “Addressing the Need for Comprehensive Regulatory Reform.”

The biggest part of the secretary’s plan, and also a priority for Frank, is greater control over “systemic risk”: updating regulations to reflect the current reality that it’s not just banks that dominate the financial system, but also insurance companies and hedge funds. It’s a way for the government to oversee financial markets as a whole, rather than the individual components.

http://www.mlive.com/us-politics/index.ssf/2009/03/geithner_to_call_for_new_bonus.html


18 posted on 03/22/2009 1:52:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

And campaign contributions are bribery.


19 posted on 03/22/2009 1:53:56 PM PDT by alrea (4% profit on a gallon of gas is obscene but over 15% tax isn't)
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To: kcvl

Bawney Fwank is a pig...an arrogant gas bag. AND, he is one of the primary cast of characters responsible for this economic crisis, and is continuing to perpetuate it by his vile rhetoric.

It’s time to take back the country.


20 posted on 03/22/2009 1:54:58 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: kcvl
Think about how many company boards these 535 congress clowns sit on.

GM, AIG, your local school system, hundreds of banks, your local hospital, etc. Are we at FR the only people to question the gross incompetence and unconstitutionality of these pretenders to effectively/legally run so many enterprises?

21 posted on 03/22/2009 1:55:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failure of Central Planning.)
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To: PubliusMM

One proposal could impose greater requirements on company boards to tie executive compensation more closely to corporate performance and to take other steps to ensure that compensation was aligned with the financial interest of the company.

The new rules will cover all financial institutions, including those not now covered by any pay rules because they are not receiving federal bailout money. Officials say the rules could also be applied more broadly to publicly traded companies, which already report about some executive pay practices to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=20685


22 posted on 03/22/2009 2:00:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: chs68
"If retention bonuses are extortion, then what would you call campaign contributions to Members of Congress?"

YEP....we need 90% TAX on CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS NOW!!!

23 posted on 03/22/2009 2:02:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: kcvl

Barney knows extortion when he sees it.

He wouldn’t know male prostitution if it bit him in the ass....


24 posted on 03/22/2009 2:05:00 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: goodnesswins

“Bawney Fwank is a pig...an arrogant gas bag. AND, he is one of the primary cast of characters responsible for this economic crisis, and is continuing to perpetuate it by his vile rhetoric.”

Why oh why can’t we get rid of that Massachusetts representative scum Barney Frank? He is at the top of the scum pool!


25 posted on 03/22/2009 2:05:34 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: kcvl
One proposal could impose greater requirements on company boards to tie executive compensation more closely to corporate performance and to take other steps to ensure that compensation was aligned with the financial interest of the company.

In other words no CEO will ever again take a risk, from a business sense, and will instead steer his company on the safe, risk free path of mediocrity. Ever wonder why European firms are never on the leading edge of financial or technological innovation? There's your answer.

26 posted on 03/22/2009 2:05:48 PM PDT by JrsyJack (ct)
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To: kcvl

The communists are winning with the help of a large percentage of the Republican Party.

Get those “rich” p****s!

Those who would support this power mongering are nothing but commie pigs!


27 posted on 03/22/2009 2:07:33 PM PDT by Boucheau ("...if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher." Abe)
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To: PubliusMM

I really CANNOT stand Elmer Fudgepacker.


28 posted on 03/22/2009 2:08:11 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: kcvl
Frank and Congress should not meddle in areas outside their expertise. Biographies of Frank reveal that he has never held a legitimate job in his life. His experience in business is limited to a trouser-pilot prostitution ring Frank's “husband” operated out of their home. Cops busted them in 1990.
29 posted on 03/22/2009 2:11:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: kcvl
As a member of congress, he's an expert on extortion ... and bribery. The Banking Queen
30 posted on 03/22/2009 2:15:05 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: kcvl
[. . .I don’t think any of them want us to believe that it (AIG bailout)started on January 20, 2009,” said Frank.]

Actually the AIG bailout plan began in September 2008, shortly after AIG gave the New York Democratic Party $100,000 and Gov. Patterson appealed to the Federal Reserve on AIG’s behalf.

31 posted on 03/22/2009 2:15:31 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: kcvl
I think ole Barney Frankfurter-eater has ate too many wieners
32 posted on 03/22/2009 2:16:07 PM PDT by boothead
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To: kcvl
Retention Bonuses Are Extortion

Mr Frank, what is it called when Congress witholds federal highway funds unless states implement the 55 MPH speed limit?

Mr Frank, what is it called when Congress witholds funds unless states raise their drinking age to 21?

Mr Frank knows extortion since he has been engaging in it since being elected.

33 posted on 03/22/2009 2:17:15 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: kcvl

Barney Fwank and the Congresscritters are guilty of THEFT.

Not one of them deserves a dime of salary for the disaster they have created.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 2:20:50 PM PDT by OpusatFR (We can give up any pretense of having a government for and by the people after Coronation Day.)
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To: kcvl

You know, if they cap employee compensation across the board, capitalism will find a way. The next thing that will happen is that there will be two tiers of talent. The lower tier will be administrative talent (secretaries and administrators). They will be paid within Obama’s coming new comp rules. The more important tier will be the independent contractors (senior level talent). They will be doing everything they did before Obama and Frank got involved but they will be paid as consultants who own their own one person consulting business.

There’s not much the government can do about that unless they outlaw sole proprietorships.

As for Barney Frank, he will be revered in the way McCarthy was after the 1950’s. If not, the alternative is that we are finished as a nation that was exceptional.


35 posted on 03/22/2009 2:20:52 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: boothead

Barney’s theme song:

“I wish I were an Oscar Mayer Weiner
That is what I truly wish to be
cause if i were a oscar mayer weiner
everyone would be in love
oh everyone would be in love
everyone would be in love with me”

And again:
“From the online dictionary:

Frank
noun
2. a smooth-textured sausage of minced beef or pork usually smoked; often served between buns.”


36 posted on 03/22/2009 2:29:58 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: kcvl

The amount of money the government has actually GIVEN to AIG is about $ 78 billion, not $173 billion or $ 170 billion.

The higher number is the amount that is RESERVED for AIG, but as Edward Liddy testified last week, AIG has TAKEN two tranches of $ 40 billion and $ 38.4 billion so far.

You and I have an investment of $ 78 billion in AIG. The plan was to give the money to AIG, prop it up in the middle of a market that was decimating Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, etc., until its individual units could be sold off at a profit. Otherwise, that value would evaporate AND the world’s financial markets would melt down in a panic.

The $ 165 million that Obama and Congress have gotten everyone all upset about represents less than 0.2%—on fifth of one percent - of the total stake we have in AIG.And these “horrible” execs help wind down $ 1.1 TRILLION of exposures in credit swap derivatives that would hace wasted our entire $ 78 billion stake in AIG.

Meanwhile, no one is upset that Obama and Congress are giving almost five times as much, over $ 900 million, to the Palestinian Authority, which means Hamas will get its bloody paws on it.

No one is upset that Obama and Congress just pissed away $ 1.5 trillion on stimulus, TARP 2, and the Omnibus spending bill.

No one is upset that Obama and Congress approved giving ACORN $ 5 billion in stimulus funds.

No one is upset that we gave GM another $ 5 billion last week. Isn’t that money just another retention bonus for the UAW?

No one is upset that Obama lied to us about the bonuses, Geithner lied to us about the bonuses, and Dodd lied to us about the bonuses.

No, everyone is excised about a lousy $ 165 bilion.

Congress must be laughing their asses off at us behind closed doors.

And if we allow them to get away with this, we deserve it.


37 posted on 03/22/2009 2:30:34 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: kcvl

Somebody needs to give the Queen a chill pill and put her to bed —

Ah, Aaaaah!
Ah, Aaaaah!
Ah, Aaaaaah!
Oooooooooh!

She’s so mad,
She’s been had!
Having the snit of her life!
Oooooh!
See the Queen, make a scene!
Barney, the Xanax Queen!


38 posted on 03/22/2009 2:36:01 PM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: kcvl

I’ll tell ya what extortion is,
A bunch of fags demanding something then attacking those who refuse to get in the gutter with them.


39 posted on 03/22/2009 2:36:20 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Kansas58
Barney Frank’s friends at Freddie and Fannie made a lot more money than any of these bonuses.

Barney gets all fluttery and excited when the talk turns to Bone-us

40 posted on 03/22/2009 2:43:43 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: kcvl

Frank is a pain in the ass.


41 posted on 03/22/2009 2:45:42 PM PDT by maggief
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To: lady lawyer
What is wrong with the voters in Massachusetts?

Up here further north we call it Massholechusetts. Does this answer your question?

42 posted on 03/22/2009 2:45:53 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: cripplecreek

Retention bonus are not extortion. When a company is in trouble and the are afraid that good employees will leave for other jobs because they will be offered a new job at a more stable company at the same or better pay (some times less in trade for the stability)they make an offer to the employee. If you stay for X period of time we will pay you your salary + Y (this can be done in increments). If the employee stays for the agree upon time they are paid the “bonus.” It’s a payment for risk. In Frank’s view the employees have to be forced to stay in their positions even if they want to leave. In his view apparently involuntary servitude is allowed. There is nothing the employee can be offered to stay longer and they also apparently can’t leave. You can tell he’s never been in the private sector. Well, except for the short time when his boyfriend was running the “escort service” out of Frank’s home. I’ll bet his boyfriend provided “escorts” for Barney’s friends and people who were lobbying him too.


43 posted on 03/22/2009 2:47:06 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: kcvl

Leave it to liberal idiots not to know the difference between “extortion” and “incentive.”


44 posted on 03/22/2009 2:48:37 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: kcvl

A real miracle would be seeing his fat, perverted posterior leveraged out of his seat!


45 posted on 03/22/2009 3:14:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kcvl

Don’t he have some bugs to chase?


46 posted on 03/22/2009 3:15:16 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: kcvl

Extortion is what Frank does to us through taxation. Then he uses the money to buy votes for himself.


47 posted on 03/22/2009 3:17:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The biggest crimes in history were committed by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ha! Is it extortion when the Treasury Department and the Congress okays it? I’m just wondering, because the Democrat members of Congress never do anything wrong, supposedly.


48 posted on 03/22/2009 3:18:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The biggest crimes in history were committed by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: exit82
No one is upset that...
Could you define "No one", 'cause I know a bunch of people who are livid about the things you mentioned...as well as some thing you didn't mention.
49 posted on 03/22/2009 3:21:19 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kcvl

Barney Frank:
Individual extortion - bad.
Organized extortion - good.

And he’s supposed to be the “brightest” Democrat in congress...


50 posted on 03/22/2009 3:30:31 PM PDT by DB
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