Posted on 03/24/2009 7:57:51 AM PDT by rgr
Can Private Security Guards Act As Cops? That's Exactly What They May Soon Be Doing On The Far These private security cars patrol Michigan Avenue between 100th and 116th streets, and a proposed city ordinance would give them many police powers.
They're private security guards, already on patrol, but they may soon have the powers of Chicago Police officers.
As CBS 2 Chief Correspondent Jay Levine reports, the private security officers now on patrol on the city's Far South Side are expected to have their powers expanded as part of a citywide ordinance now being prepared.
But officials are questioning whether this means public safety is being outsourced.
Mayor Richard M. Daley has already privatized many city functions. The Chicago Skyway has been leased to a Spanish conglomerate. Midway Airport is run by a Canadian company. The parking meters were sold to a firm run by Morgan Stanley, and as a result, the cost of parking in the city has skyrocketed.
But the question is whether another foreign firm providing cops on patrol may be privatization gone too far.
A single squad car, marked "special patrol," cruises up and down a small commercial strip on far south Michigan Avenue tonight. Its patrol area is between 100th and 116th streets, and area merchants have their doubts.
"As good as they may be, I don't think they probably have all the training that a policeman would have," said business owner Howard Bolling.
But the security guards are not supposed to replace Chicago Police officers, according to the alderman writing the ordinance. He said the enforcement powers of the private security group would remain highly limited.
"No traffic violations such as moving violations – such as moving violations. Small things – illegally parked, blocking the parking," said Ald. Anthony Beale (9th).
That wasn't exactly what Mayor Daley thought when he was asked about it on Saturday. He said the security force would have the power to enforce "moving violations and citations including loitering, littering and graffiti."
This means they're still working on it. But Beale was asked what would happen when they security officers tried to detain someone who didn't want to be detained and didn't respect their authority as they would a police officer's.
"Next thing you know, guns are drawn, and you have a real problem," Levine posited.
Replied Beale: "I'm not going to say what the future may hold. We can all predict unforeseen situations."
Mayor Daley said the city would benefit from the extra patrols.
"It's not a bad idea. You maybe have to refine it, but it's not a bad idea," the mayor said.
With Chicago Police stretched so thin, just having a few extra cars and extra uniforms is comforting to some people. The J. Carolina Hosiery store, for example, was robbed 14 times in the last year.
"The stores are being robbed, and then they're getting extorted, and you have the little gangbangers running in and out of stores trying to rob people," said store supervisor Larry McCullough.
Since the private security patrols arrived, the robberies have continued, "but it's slowing down, because it seems like more of the stores have to have their own guns and their own security."
In addition to the Fraternal Order of Police being against it, experts tell CBS 2 that asking private security guards to conduct police functions is dangerous, and potentially fatal, with most security guards paid much less and receive less training. Chicago's Police Supt. Jody Weis calls it all a work in progress.
"Let's be creative," Weis said. "If we can have police officers focusing on higher priority cases, it's worth talking about."
CBS 2 wanted to ask the Toronto-based firm which was the lowest bidder for contracts in the 9th and 10th wards about the background and training of its officers. Also in question was is how much experience the Canadian company has with the inner city problems which make the Roseland community a challenge for even the most streetwise Chicago Police professionals. The firm has not yet returned calls.
Robocop.
Calling DOG the bounty hunter and his team of thugs and mutts
Terrible neighborhood.
i see where this is headed and its no coincidence that its in illinios.
Another chocolate city goes for the gold.
Will the left protest?
This is major indication of what our creditors will do after a total economic meltdown. That it is Chicago is no accident.
Wow. Daley doesn’t plan on leaving ANYTHING standing when (sorry, IF) he leaves office, does he?
OCP Omni consumber products.
we don’t need government just corporate protection.
Support Little League Rollerball.
maybe they should call then Security Assistants AKA SA.
Sexy Policemen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDC-V6ywuA0
A town within the city of Indianapolis did this several years back, and it became a corrupted nightmare, that was eventually done away with after several Nora Security-involved shootings.
They were also pocketing HUGE amounts of money in scams relating to “Private Security”, using badged officers from other jurisdictions working “part-time” for them. Don’t remember all of the particulars about it.
Anybody here remember “Nora Security”?
ROTFLOL!!
Sexy Police Interogation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M500KjQG0gM&feature=related
Get all the fat @$$, 300#, donut eating, desk bound cops OUT of all the Station Houses (Precincts) and onto the streets. Their jobs can be done by non police, file clerks -- aka Citizens.If I was a gang banger and one of these rent-a-cops tried to arrest me, I'd laugh, spit in his face and keep on my merry way - and that WILL happen - at the least.Granted a few of these cops may have heart attacks at first and patrol cars will need heavy duty suspension, but after a while they'll be down to 250# and capable of doing their POLICE duties. Like going up a flight of stairs without keeling over with a cardiac.
Annnnnd, since this is only a 16 Block Commercial strip in question, get the Cops OUT of the patrol cars and have them on Foot Patrol during business hours. They DO all have radios so communication for backup won't be a problem.
Yeah I know these are radical ideas Mayor, especially Foot Patrol, but that used to be pretty effective in the 'olden days'.
UN troops will be next to help police our streets and control the people.
Where as a private security officer powers only exist on the property that they are assigned to & during their hours of assigned duty.
I know this because I spent 12 years as an private security officer both armed and unarmed. I have worked a major airport in St. Louis Mo.[and did a lot of VIP security details as well], and secured gas stations, and construction sites, ect... I had to re certified every year for both armend & UN armend uses. I did spend more time on the range that was required, just to keep myself accurate under all types of shooting situations. Even though I had only had to draw my side arm 3 times in the line of duty, and NEVER had to fire a shot, during that time. I did use my nightstick & pepper mace a lot more though.
Yes it can be done and has been done.It depends on the state’s constitution and laws though. As for training a private security departments personnel would have to receive the same training as other Law enforcement officers. In Connecticut its mandated by law.So the Complaint by the Fraternal Order of Police is pointless.They are just trying to protect their Jobs. The funny thing is those municipal and state police officers will run to get a position in one of those private departments as soon as they retire.
Mayor Richard M. Daley has already privatized many city functions. The Chicago Skyway has been leased to a Spanish conglomerate. Midway Airport is run by a Canadian company. The parking meters were sold to a firm run by Morgan Stanley, and as a result, the cost of parking in the city has skyrocketed.
Have any of your taxes gone down?
If Daley keeps privatizing public property, why would you need a city government?
Chicago is no longer the 2nd City to New York....It’s the 2nd City to Washington, DC! The Chicago police are spread so thin, because the corrupt Cops who protected the Chicago Machine had to move with the Chicago Machine to DC. Just not enough honest cops left! /s
I was looking for RoboCop imagery when I saw your post. It is unbelievable that this could even be considered.
That said, I think that most of the BHO agenda is thought of as unbelievable and is therefore not taken seriously by many.
This is what happens when the culture turns to criminality as a normal form of behavior. They are after all following the example set by the political class in Chicago.
There is no police force in the world that can be effective if enough of the people just decide to live as criminals.
Neat post devolve!
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Thanx potlatch -
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