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House passes bill to expand wilderness in 9 states
Seattle Times ^ | March 25, 2009 | Matthew Daly

Posted on 03/25/2009 2:07:23 PM PDT by jazusamo

WASHINGTON — Congress on Wednesday set aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as protected wilderness - from California's Sierra Nevada mountains to the Jefferson National Forest in Virginia.

The legislation is on its way to President Barack Obama for his likely signature.

The House approved the bill, 285-140, the final step in a long legislative road that began last year.

The vote came two weeks after the House rejected the bill amid a partisan dispute over gun rights. The measure was brought up again in the Senate and approved last week, setting up Wednesday's vote.

The bill - a collection of nearly 170 separate measures - would be one of the largest expansions of wilderness protection in a quarter-century. It would confer the government's highest level of protection on land in California, Colorado, Idaho, Michigan, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Virginia and West Virginia.

Supporters called the bill landmark legislation that will strengthen the national park system, restore national forests, preserve wild and scenic rivers, protect battlefields and restore balance to the management of public lands.

Opponents, mostly Republicans, called the bill a "land grab" that would block energy development on vast swaths of federal land.

"After nearly a decade during which our parks were taken for granted and our range lands were scarred by a spider-web of roads and (drilling) well pads," the lands bill "represents a new dawn for America's heritage and American values," said Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee.

Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., and other Republicans complained that the measure would lock up millions of acres of land that could be explored for energy and used for other development.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; agenda21; bho44; bhoenergy; bhoenvironment; enviornment; environazis; hr146; landgrab; nationalparks; propertyrights; wilderness; wildernessbill
The environazis won another round.
1 posted on 03/25/2009 2:07:25 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

and who owns this land right now?


2 posted on 03/25/2009 2:09:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: jazusamo

Oh great, more “public” owned property that the peasants can’t tread upon.


3 posted on 03/25/2009 2:09:16 PM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: jazusamo

As Doc Hastings indicated, this is about shutting down American industry and INCREASING DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL!

Obama’s lies continue!!!


4 posted on 03/25/2009 2:09:39 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: jazusamo

I would like to know the total amount of natural resources that are located on these lands.

A country rich in resources that refuses to use them. Stupid Americans.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 2:10:19 PM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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To: george76; girlangler; Flycatcher

Wilderness bill Ping!


6 posted on 03/25/2009 2:10:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: G Larry

Title:
Enviro Terrorists Steal Land from Citizens


7 posted on 03/25/2009 2:10:39 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: jazusamo

I love how this always involves us westerners.
I pox on the eastern states!


8 posted on 03/25/2009 2:11:29 PM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: jazusamo

“interstate commerce”? bullcrap. they’ve no right.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 2:11:59 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: jazusamo

Excellent....this will certainly pull us out of the recession. Way to focus congress.


10 posted on 03/25/2009 2:12:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: GeronL

My thoughts, but it may be a conversion of National Forests into National Parks, which, as I understand, are off limits to anything commercial.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 2:21:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Cancel liberal newspaper, magazine & cable TV subscriptions (Free TV-dtv.gov). Stop funding the MSM.)
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To: jazusamo

The ecos know not what they are doing.


12 posted on 03/25/2009 2:21:37 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo

I thought this got killed a week or more ago in the Senate?

Geez. No love for us geologists that is for sure.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 2:23:28 PM PDT by doodad
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To: george76

They know exactly what they’re doing.


14 posted on 03/25/2009 2:26:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jazusamo

This is an incredibly brilliant plan hatched to take away all revenues of these lands that might be generated from the underlying minerals.

America does not need this revenue, right?

See Obama talking about increasing revenues the same day!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123792991709930321.html


15 posted on 03/25/2009 2:27:52 PM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: doodad
Yes, it was defeated in the House two weeks ago but they went back for another shot.

Wilderness bill falls 2 votes short of passing the House

16 posted on 03/25/2009 2:30:40 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76
We conservatives seem too quick to attribute to ignorance what is more easily and naturally explained by pure evil and avarice. The eco/libs just want the land off-limits to human development and natural resource exploitation, plain and simple.
17 posted on 03/25/2009 2:31:50 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jazusamo

“After nearly a decade during which our parks were taken for granted and our range lands were scarred by a spider-web of roads and (drilling) well pads,” the lands bill “represents a new dawn for America’s heritage and American values,” said Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee.


American values now seem to be defined as protecting urban backyard playgrounds so the masses can tear it apart just for a weekend of fun. No roads plus no logging equals a bonfire of epic proportions in the near future. Time to start up a hotshot firefighters company to meet the upcoming demand and tap into that bottomless well of federal money.


18 posted on 03/25/2009 2:34:41 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: jazusamo

the good news is we will be building more roads and bridge to get there-


19 posted on 03/25/2009 2:37:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: crazyhorse691

It wouldn’t surprise me to see the eco nuts win over the feds and stop all fire suppression in National Parks and wilderness areas because that’s “natures” way, oh how I hate these nuts.


20 posted on 03/25/2009 2:40:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Doesn’t the Communist Manifesto say something about this?


21 posted on 03/25/2009 2:44:40 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Comcast sucks!)
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To: DrewsMum
You are quite right. I had to look it up but here 's a part.

In 1932, William Z. Foster, Chairman of the Communist Party USA explained how Point No. 1 of the Communist Manifesto, the abolition of private property, would be fulfilled. He said, "The establishment of an American Soviet government will involve the confiscation of large land estates in town and country, and also the whole body of forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers, and so on." The U. S. Communist Party Chief, Gus Hall, stated, "The battle will be lost, not when freedom of speech is finally taken away, but when Americans become so adjusted or conditioned to getting along with the group that when they finally see the threat, they say, ‘I can’t afford to be controversial’."

22 posted on 03/25/2009 2:50:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Sadly, your analysis is spot on. Some legacy we are leaving for our grandchildren...a debt ridden third world country producing nothing but childish emotional platitudes.


23 posted on 03/25/2009 2:53:11 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: caver
Notice, though, that none of the land was in Texas! Here 99% of all Texas land is privately owned. Not even state owned. Not saying the gubmint can't change that....but so far it has not happened and chances are never will.

The Fed lands in this article are lands that are already owned by the feds (taxpayers) and has been designated as protected "park lands" to make them fall under the feds rules for parks. i.e.NO DRILLING!

24 posted on 03/25/2009 2:55:04 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: jazusamo
Maybe this would be a good time and a good subject for the 35 states that have passed or are considering 10th Amendment Resolutions to confront the Feds about. What section of the Constitution gives the Feds the rights to restrict the use of state property???
25 posted on 03/25/2009 4:05:31 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: SpaceBar
The Clintons did this too. The Desert Protection Act. Sen. Di-Fi's husband had it coming and going on both ends. First, buy certain rights. Every pub school child in CA was getting non-stop "save the desert" curriculum. Di-Fi's hubby was investor/part owner of the publishing of that curriculum. Oops. And then he also owned "certain" rights in the desert(s) that got protected. And he sold certain minerals to a specific business in China.

Just watch the play.. it's a repeat. Possibly different props on the stage.

26 posted on 03/25/2009 4:36:05 PM PDT by Alia
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To: USMA '71
What section of the Constitution gives the Feds the rights to restrict the use of state property???

None
This is a deliberate attempt to make the USA a third world nation

27 posted on 03/25/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: jazusamo

What gets me, especially after the “no legal standing” rulings on O’s birth certificate, is how a bunch of lawyers and Sierra Club members have any standing in states where they don’t reside.


28 posted on 03/26/2009 3:21:19 AM PDT by doodad
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To: jazusamo

Zero is giving up on revenues like this for this stupid land grab.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/an_end_to_dependence_on_middle.html


29 posted on 03/26/2009 5:23:12 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: jazusamo
The Alaska provision allows the state go forward with plans to build an airport access road through the Izembek National Wildlife Refuge as part of a land swap that transfers more than 61,000 acres to the federal government, much of it designated as wilderness. The project calls for a gravel road through the refuge, which is home to hundreds of thousands of migratory birds, salmon, caribou and other animals.

Are these people nuts? Do they think a simple road is going to harm any migratory animal? In their misguided reverence for "Mother Earth," these religious zealots (and that's what they are) have thrown common sense completely out the window.

I also noted this:

Hastings and Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, tried unsuccessfully to amend the bill to allow visitors to national parks to carry concealed, loaded weapons. A federal judge last week struck down a Bush administration rule allowing loaded guns in parks and wildlife refuges.

It looks like the Constitution shredders won on that round too. What a sad day for America.

(By the way, I'm back now until April 13, when I hit the field again. Thanks for the ping!)

30 posted on 03/26/2009 8:48:59 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: bestintxas

Good article, thanks for the link.

I truly believe the enviro nuts don’t give a whit about energy of any kind being produced here at home. They always argue the point that something catastrophic can or will happen.

Right now in the Mojave desert east of Barstow, CA the enviro nuts are taking up a move against a company that wants to put in a large wind generation facility, among other things they say the desert is too fragile.

They fight against solar and wind installations because they’re eyesores. I’m very familiar with the So CA deserts, I was born there and spent a lot of time there and tho much of it is beautiful some times of the year it’s desolate and well suited to wind and solar power, IMO.


31 posted on 03/26/2009 9:13:30 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Flycatcher
Are these people nuts?

In a simple word, YES!

Look at the caribou population increase after the Alaska pipeline went in. There were dire predictions by the enviro nuts and they were wrong but being wrong didn't slow them down, they still attack and tie everything up in lawsuits.

Good to see you back and will keep pinging. :)

32 posted on 03/26/2009 9:20:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks, Jaz!


33 posted on 03/26/2009 12:10:11 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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