Skip to comments.WILLIE BROWN: Assault weapons have no place on streets
Posted on 03/29/2009 9:21:14 AM PDT by SmithL
If there's one lesson to be learned from the tragedy in Oakland, it's that there should be no debate about taking assault weapons off the streets.
There is no civil liberties issue here. There is no justification for an AK-47 in private hands. Period.
There used to be a nationwide ban on assault rifles, until it expired in 2004. We should bring it back.
As for what to do in high-crime neighborhoods, I've been there, and the only answer is to be tough.
Public safety cannot be subjected to popularity. You've got to execute on the basis of what you believe will make it safe, and you've got to be prepared to take the heat.
Police departments are paramilitary organizations. They can't be made up of social workers. Officers risk their lives every day, and you've got to back them.
If there's an incident like the BART police shooting of Oscar Grant, you have to be decisive as well. Investigations have to be quick and they have to be thorough.
But regardless of the rhetoric you hear in some street protests, this is not the '60s.
In the '60s, African Americans didn't have all the protections we have now.
We didn't have power in the cities, with people like Elihu Harris or myself as mayors. We didn't have Eric Holder as attorney general. We didn't have Barack Obama as president.
We're past the time when people weren't being served at lunch counters because they were black.
It's a new day and we should be living in it, not always looking back.
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But after you get past his boilerplate, anti-gun language, he makes some outstanding points.
the time you really need the 2nd amendment is when they try to take it away.
Willie boy, it aint about hunting, its about freedom and regime change in governments that refuse to give the people that freedom.
Willie Brown is too stupid and ignorant opf the reasons for the Second Amen dment. to understand it, much less have an opinion that is’t a waste of time.
***In the ‘60s, African Americans didn’t have all the protections we have now.***
Obviously mot a fan of the quote...”When someone burns a cross in your yard the best firehose is an AK-47!”....General Laney (head of the Motor City Sportsman’s Association)
I read the weapon used in the Okland shootings was really an SKS.
>>>There is no justification for an AK-47 in private hands. Period.<<<
Of course. I’ll defend my liberty with a mocha latte and some really killer bud from the free clinic. *sheesh*
“Police departments are paramilitary organizations.”
Yes, and the Fed government basically made them that way.
Hi Willie. Long time no see.
How’s your bastard daughter doing?
Well, you've never been to Iraq, Willie.
Gosh, that's so specific and succinct. I never looked at it that way before. I've seen the light!
Yer an idiot, Willie.
This world ain't perfect.
Some want to put us into the dark ages while they live in a skyscraper.
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Sorry, but the last time that I checked the only people that wanted assault weapons on the street were liberals. So Brown is a hypocrite.
Why...they insist on keeping killers and gang-bangers out of jail (you know, the ones who carry around assault weapons). Keep them in jail (or execute them) and the problem with assault weapons on the streets is gone.
WILLIE BROWN: Assault weapons have no place on streets
Willie Brown IS an assault weapon...he should be kept off the streets.
In any case, it is against the law to kill policemen...
I think it was on another board.. but yes.. the weapon was an SKS modified to take AK mags.
Willie Brown is a moron.
1) The murderer was already prohibited by state and federal law to own a firearm, yet he had two. Where was the probation officer?
2) California already has strict laws on firearms and still felons/criminals disregard them. The only people penalized are lawful citizens not criminals because they don’t pay attention to pesky ‘laws’.
3) Willie favors removing a Constitutional Right. What does that make Ol’e Willie? A despot.
I won’t put an assault weapon on the street as somebody might run over it!
1) As it has been pointed out, this criminal was not in legal possession. 2) The officers were shot in the head. I've seen beef steer drop dead instantly from a .22 Long Rifle between the eyes. 3) Any long gun can be used as an "assault rifle" in the hands of a skilled user. A .22 mag using hollow points can disintegrate a melon the size of a person's head. 5 rounds could equal 5 kills.
Yet the Paroled Rapist turned Murderer, who is not even legally allowed to possess ANY gun still had that banned gun!
Let's join together to ban them AK-47’s again!!!!!!, Yes a second ban will do the trick that will stop this type of crime. That will teach them, a second ban would have made him turn that gun in.
So lets hold hands and push for more laws banning the guns that are banned, because the ban ain't working, thus we need to ban them again. .....(liberal logic)
Fire those that Paroled this Murderer, stop parole for repeat criminals, open up room in the jails by releasing the Oakland Rev. Hoye who is jailed for pro-life messages!
Also understand that these “assault weapon” gun control laws are a failure, they do not stop this type of crime. ...(Real Logic)
The only outstanding point on old Willie is atop his little head.
So a traditional 30.06 M1 Garand, or 30 caliber M1 Carbine, are ok, but a semi auto CAR15 with the far smaller .223 caliber is not.
Nothing like a reasoned approach to the CRIMINAL misuse of weapons. (sarcasm)
**** you willie.
BZZZZZZT. Not according to these guys they're not. It has nothing to do with a correct definition of an "assault weapon". If you look closely at their list, you'll see a clause for "anything procured for military use".
Your great-grandfather's trapdoor Springfield is an assault weapon to hear these guys tell it.
I call BS!
To restate the obvious ad nauseum: the problem ain't guns, it is the miscreants and felons (as once shown as an example in this case) who are allowed on the streets and use them. This guy should have been shackled and behind four foot walls with razor wire perimeter and not on the street with so much as a paper clip.
Instead the liberal judges and electeds in California (including and especially Jerry "the joke Jesuit" Brown, now AG), have appeased and tolerated gangs and their ilk and now we have cops murdered because of your policies. Get out!
Bull$hit! There's a perfectly good reason for law abiding citizens to have AK's and it has nothing to do with hunting, sport or even personal protection. It is to guard against a tyranical gov't and it's spelled out in the constitution, the federalist papers and many other docs of yesteryear.
There are already laws on the books against fully
automatic weapons: enforce them!
Yes it was an SKS. Gun grabbers don’t know, and don’t care about the difference.
The definition of an assault rifle is a compact selective fire rifle of intermediate power.
“Assault weapon” is a political term for a semi automatic firearm with a detachable magazine that has two or more of the following military style features: pistol grip, flash surpressor, folding stock, bayonet mount, barrel shroud, or grenade launcher.
So the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 didn’t even pertain to the AK-47, unless it was just a semi auto version of it. Nor would it pertain to the SKS used in the shootings if hadn’t been a version designed to take a detachable magazine.
He’s right. They don’t belong on the streets.
They belong in law abiding citizen’s hands, safes, and gun racks, on tables when you clean them, on your shoulders when being carried or in people’s arms, etc.
On the street? Not good for the weapon.
They will never give up until they’re six feet under.
Wake Up America!
I can't cite it for you, but if you look at the -1bama / Holder gun ban list, there's a clause that includes, to paraphrase, anything that's ever been procured for military use.
Thus, the M1 carbine, M1 rifle, Colt 1911, Smith model 1917, 1903, etc, etc, are all at the discretion of the AG.
As much as I've criticized the NRA, and rightfully so at times, NOW IS THE TIME to encourage your gun-owning friends to step up and take them up on the free membership offering. If we lose now, we lose everything.
Molon Labe Willie. You don't have the stones to enforce your position.
He is partly correct; assault weapons should remain off the streets and in safe storage until we need them to take the nation back. That may be rather soon.
I’m always amused by this kind of rhetoric. Like passing a ban will actually keep bad people from getting assault weapons. Preposterous. About all it does is guarantee that only the bad guys will have assault weapons when they attack adults and children on the street, in the home, in school or in the workplace.
I think, but don’t quote me on this as I haven’t fully checked it out, that it is free membership for one year. The idea would be to sign up people and build their membership levels during this time of extreme, and I do mean extreme, danger to the 2nd amendment. The more members, the more votes are staring the demwits in the face for 2010.
I'd heard that the NRA was offering free memberships, and then after making that post I decided I might just post a vanity post about it. So I went to the NRA website and found the same thing that you did - a really well-done website with no mention of free memberships.
Which lead to another page offering one year for $25, two for $50, etc. I would link that page, but it produced an ID number associated with my own access of it --->https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=[number here redacted by me]
Anyone thinking of joining the NRA could still get in under discounted membership dues, it appears.
The multi-tool might be handy to have. But for myself, I'd almost as soon just hand them some money to use for the cause, and let them save the costs, time, and trouble to send a magazine or some other form of wampum.
Never had much luck with multi-tools myself. I tried a couple and they never work like a real tool. If it helps membership, though...
Nothing particularly against the latter...I think that I'd like to have one of those combo's, if I could get just the right make & model. Trouble is, I don't recall which one exactly that is...