Delusions of Evolution

Norcalblogs.com ^ | April 04, 2009 | by OneVike

[Nathan Zachary]

It is with out a doubt that a majority of Americans believe “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” Genesis 1:1. Unfortunately, most who believe these words cannot answer the questions raised by the thousands of fossils that archeologist's have dug up and claim are millions of years old. ...

[Fichori]

“That looks like an admission you put it there, and set fire to it.”

When I see an Evo desperately searching for a flaming paper bag to stomp, I do my best to facilitate them.

[Buck W.]

You responded to my post, so I am surprised that you refer to my response thereto as “sniping”.

Since we’re engaged, may I expect a response to the question, that is, how does adherence to literal inerrancy of the bible serve the Lord? Consider two different people of equal piety and service. If one does not hold to literal inerrancy, does that person serve the Lord less effectively than the one who does?

[tacticalogic]

When I see an Evo desperately searching for a flaming paper bag to stomp, I do my best to facilitate them.

Did you ever see one that wasn't?

[Fichori]

“Did you ever see one that wasn't?”

Yes.

[tacticalogic]

Really? Just one, or more than that?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

All the evidence we have for the age of the universe is tied directly to their theory of the earth's age.

Fact-free statement.

The age of the earth comes from radiometric dating. The age of the universe is limited by the ages of the oldest main sequence stars and our limited understanding of the universe's expansion.

[Justice]

Since He is eternal and doesn't change,

You are right that God's character doesn't change. However, His laws do at times (ex: Jews were required to sacrifice at the Temple...Christians are not).

There would have been no other way for Adams' sons to procreate except with their siblings. We are all descended from Adam and Eve. There were no other families around to marry with.

The Levitical laws were written thousands of years after Adam and Eve lived when the world was populated and there was no need to marry within the family. An example of how marrying one's sister was accepted back then: Sarah was Abrahams' half-sister (Abraham lived before the Levitical laws).

[goat granny]

Hi Justice: Thank you for your well thought out and polite reply I just don’t know the answer and all we can do sometimes is try to fill in the blanks.. God Bless

[Nipplemancer]

your questions are moot. i used examples of religious devotion that in most modern culture would seem as ‘extreme’ that have analogs in both christianity and islam.
terrorism is politics with religious overtones sometimes. the originators of the practice of suicide bombing were not religious zealots but are an ethnic minority.

[OneVike]

Evolution (and the the existence of a very old earth) is perfectly compatible with Christianity.

I get very tired of re-posting my reasons why theistic evolution is incompatible with Christianity. You can go back and read what I wrote or not. Until another day, I don't care what you think right now.

Not being rude, I am just dealing with a severe allergic reaction to something and you of all people seemed to irritate me right now.
Have a nice day. Bye.

[Buck W.]

“Not being rude, I am just dealing with a severe allergic reaction to something and you of all people seemed to irritate me right now.”

Must be my endearing personality!

“I get very tired of re-posting my reasons why theistic evolution is incompatible with Christianity.”

I disagree.
- Evolution is perfectly compatible with Christianity.
- Evolution is not compatible with adherence to the literal inerrancy of the bible.
- Christianity is neither dependent upon nor incomplete without adherence to the literal inerrancy of the bible.

[Freepmanchew]

Tell that to God not me.

[Freepmanchew]

So how do you explain Adam as the first man if he had ancestors? After all, if evolution is compatible to Christianity then it means their was a living breathing individual who gave birth to Adam and Eve. Right?

Then Paul was full of crap when he wrote to the Corinthians;
And so it is written, "THE FIRST MAN ADAM BECAME A LIVING BEING." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (1Corinthians 15:45)

So my question remains. Where did Adam come from?

Remember this is a question only for those who claim to be Christian and accept evolution as the way God brought about averything.

[Buck W.]

The bible is allegorical.
And I am a Christian.

[aruanan]

The bible is allegorical.

Of what?

[Buck W.]

Quoi?

[aruanan]

Quoi?

Well, an allegory is "a form of extended metaphor, in which objects, persons, and actions in a narrative, are equated with the meanings that lie outside the narrative itself. The underlying meaning has moral, social, religious, or political significance, and characters are often personifications of abstract ideas as charity, greed, or envy."

Bunyon's The Pilgrim's Progress is an allegory of the Christian life. The Pilgrim's Regress by C.S. Lewis is also an allegory of the same. Some people have claimed the Song of Songs to be an allegory of Christ's love for the church because that was easier than to just admit that it was a description of physical love between a man and a woman. So if the Bible overall is an allegory, what is I Kings or Deuteronomy an allegory of? What is Moses an allegory of or Joseph?

It's true that Paul described the events of the exodus as examples for our benefit that we should not do the same things they did and were punished. But, interestingly, he does not say that the food and drink provided the escaping Israelites by God was an allegory of the spiritual food and drink given to us by God. Instead, he makes the point that those people back then, actually escaping from Egypt and wandering in the desert, being fed physical food and drink by God (from the rock) were also partaking, back then, of the same spiritual food and drink that he and the Corinthians right then were partaking of--from the Rock who is Christ. His point was that they partook of Christ even back then, turned away from God, displeased him, and got their asses kicked and that we now, partaking of that same Rock, should be very careful in a way they were not lest the same thing happen to us. He very clearly considered that they were examples to us and that the strength of the example was not that it was a particularly good metaphor, but that it really happened to people who were just as real as those to whom he was writing.

[Buck W.]

“But, interestingly, he does not say that the food and drink provided the escaping Israelites by God was an allegory of the spiritual food and drink given to us by God. “

Allegories don’t usually self-identify as such.

[Freepmanchew]

No it's not! Then why do we need Christ? he did not come to die for a theoretical idea of sin by men.

You sir are not a Christian. Try telling that to God!

[Buck W.]

Litmus test! Litmus test!

Yes, I am a Christian. The bible is allegorical. Christianity is neither dependent upon nor incomplete without adherence to the literal inerrancy of the bible. Most Christians believe that the bible is allegorical.