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Officer: Split-second decision to fire on pirates [Obama pulls a George W. Bush]
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 4/12/09 | LARA JAKES

Posted on 04/12/2009 3:59:18 PM PDT by Brilliant

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To: AlphaOneAlpha

Of course... The orders were probably “If you can free him without endangering his life, then do so. If not, then don’t.”

That way, he can take the credit if it comes out good, and deflect the blame if it turns out bad.


41 posted on 04/12/2009 4:30:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
"Gortney said the White House had given "very clear guidance and authority" that if any time the commander Capt. Phillips' life was in danger to take action to make sure it was not."

Just curious..why was Fub0 calling the shots on this one??

42 posted on 04/12/2009 4:31:47 PM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT FUBO's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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To: 2111USMC

just some great work by our men out there huh?


43 posted on 04/12/2009 4:31:53 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Brilliant
If Obama had ordered this, the Navy wouldn't be falling all over themselves pointing out that the one loophole in Obama’s direction that they used, i.e. “imminent danger”. They got a clear shot and they took it. “Imminent danger” is the CYA statement that is being used to show that they did not violate the restrictive Rules of Engagement.
44 posted on 04/12/2009 4:32:23 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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To: bobby.223

Yep. They done good!


45 posted on 04/12/2009 4:33:20 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It’s amazing that his very first management or executive experience on his resume is his current job of President of the United States.

What's even more amazing is 53% of the voters had no problem with that...

46 posted on 04/12/2009 4:33:37 PM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: Brilliant
The important point is that our guy is out safe and 3 bad guys are heating up in hell.

If BO gets a little pop for this, fine.

Most know that if this had all gone down in exactly the same manner 1 year prior, Bush would be said to have recklessly endangered the lives of many with his cowboy foreign policy.

47 posted on 04/12/2009 4:34:01 PM PDT by mad puppy (Never have I felt so politically radical and I swear I didn't move an inch.)
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To: Brilliant

How very “aggorant” of the US to act so unilaterally.


48 posted on 04/12/2009 4:36:25 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (Trust unto God and He shall direct your path)
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To: rambo316
The Fox coverage with Eric Shawn all afternoon was excellent...he was so proud and patriotic. Then Miss B. came on the air and at first reported that it was quite controversial that Barry had not yet spoken, furrowing her brow a bit, but then she read Barry's glorious statement and began cheerleading.
49 posted on 04/12/2009 4:36:48 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Brilliant

“Obama is showing his cowboy swagger”

What, nor more pimp walk?

OK., give him credit...

Bammy FINALLY did SOMETHING right!

STE=Q


50 posted on 04/12/2009 4:37:34 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: SampleMan

“If Obama had ordered this, the Navy wouldn’t be falling all over themselves pointing out that the one loophole in Obama’s direction that they used, i.e. “imminent danger”. They got a clear shot and they took it. “Imminent danger” is the CYA statement that is being used to show that they did not violate the restrictive Rules of Engagement. “

....you are exactly right.


51 posted on 04/12/2009 4:39:04 PM PDT by mystery-ak (..gopachy.com)
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To: Brilliant

We must follow this very closely to make sure that the captain who gave this order is not secretly punished later.


52 posted on 04/12/2009 4:41:19 PM PDT by Concho (01-20-2009--The beginning of an ERROR)
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To: Brilliant

This is not entirely the truth.

LLS


53 posted on 04/12/2009 4:41:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: SampleMan

At the press conference they kept badgering the Admiral over whether Capt. Phillips was reallllllly in danger. Gee, guys...being held captive for four days by pirates with weapons is not like being invited over for a poker game. Then the cry baby from NPR demanded to know how those pirates died and who was responsible—was it the SEALS??? The Admiral refused to answer. The CNN wimp asked if violence would now escalate because everyone knows that pirates are a “non-violent” bunch. Another gal named Courtney was very concerned about the pirates’ remains. The Admiral should have laughed in their faces but he was quite patient and polite.


54 posted on 04/12/2009 4:44:23 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mystery-ak

The true unsung behind the scenes hero in this was undoubtedly the USN captain of the Bainbridge who took ownership and responsibility and ordered the action.


55 posted on 04/12/2009 4:44:34 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Travis McGee

You said — I’m really amazed the range was only 25 to 30 meters, if the reports are correct.

Well, that was thanks to the “set-up” that they did — to get everything all ready-to-go for the take-down...

They first reduced the numbers of the pirates around the hostage by convincing one of them to be on board the Naval vessel to be the “negotiator”. The Navy fooled them into believing they were going to negotiate...

That left the remaining “stupid ones” on the lifeboat.

The Navy also convinced them that the Navy could be “good guys” and help the pirates out by “towing” their lifeboat (doncha know... LOL...). So, the Navy put them on a short tow line, making it so they were real close (for the shot, doncha know... LOL...).

And then when everyone was “in sight” — they went “bang”... and that was that... :-)


56 posted on 04/12/2009 4:45:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: editor-surveyor
“It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.”

hussein NEVER made a decision but instead he has hidden behind the book now for an entire week. If this had gone badly... the Commander would now be facing the end of his career.

LLS

57 posted on 04/12/2009 4:45:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

No question about it.


58 posted on 04/12/2009 4:46:04 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ApplegateRanch

Yea, he IS The One! None can withstand him.

I just cannot stand him.


59 posted on 04/12/2009 4:46:27 PM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Brilliant

“You know that if George W. Bush had done this, Obama and the libs would have been trashing him left and right for displaying his “cowboy swagger.””

Then they would condemn him for waiting 4 days before he did something.


60 posted on 04/12/2009 4:47:00 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Bow down to me. I am TOTUS.)
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