Posted on 04/15/2009 4:29:04 AM PDT by marktwain
Carrying a gun sure beats hiding under a desk and waiting for the shooter to work his way down the line. Thats what happened in the VT incident.
A room with three or four armed “victims” will level the playing field even more. In fact, knowing there might be several armed “victims” could very well squash the entire event from happening in the first place.
Yes—no one has ever successfully defended themselves with a gun before. Ever. [/sarc]
Leave it to the MSM to rig an experiment when there are thousands of real life examples of Gun owners using their guns to save lives and property that they could have used.
Yeah, if I’m the mass murderer, I’m shooting the guy in the *protective* gear first.
The shooter shot the lecturer first, then turned directly to the young man and began firing. How convenient it was for the shooter to know who was armed and where he was sitting so he could quickly take out the one and only threat in the room.
The shooter knew he could be fired at, but showed no surprise at the sight of a gun. The experiment was repeated with other "victims" under the same circumstances and not once did the shooter react in surprise. In real life, a shooter won't expect any resistance and is likely to react when shot at. The shooter was a professional firearm instructor and a good shot under stress. Not exactly realistic, since real mass murderers are usually just insane people with guns.
In other words, this experiment was rigged. The armed student was set up to fail.
I knew from the first promo that it would be a blatantly unbalanced piece (I've seen that footage of the kids pointing the empty guns at each other and staring down the barrel before), but I was not prepared for the way the subjects were set up like bowling pins in that "live" demonstration.
The author of the article failed to note that the shooter in the demonstrations knew exactly which of the people in the room were going to attempt to shoot back; with the exception of one volunteer and one other designated person seated in the conference room, all the others were law enforcement officers whose instructions were to take cover rather than attempt to engage the shooter. On top of that, when one of the volunteers landed a round on the shooter's left arm, it was minimized: 'It was just a graze. You're supposed to be shooting at the head...'
At the end, Sawyer said she really, really wished she could have had an opposing point of view, but that they couldn't find any that weren't contradictory. Unbelievable (in every sense of the word).
Diane should read the NRA magazines where, every month, there are stories of armed Americans who have defended themselves with their guns, including senior citizens.
I saw the video. My first reaction was “so Sawyer & ABC think all mass killers are well trained policemen” because instead of using a student to barge in and and attempt to shoot people, they used a trained police officer.
Anyone who fell for the MSM propaganda should just roll over and die if they should ever get in that horrible situation.
I wonder how a trained instructor would fare this time against a trained gun owner without the benefit of critical intelligence.
HOW SOON WE FORGET.
POSTED: 1:26 pm MST December 9, 2007
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14808321/detail.html
Two church members were shot to death and three others were injured after a gunman opened fire outside the New Life Church in Colorado Springs as Sunday services were wrapping up.
The gunman was shot by a church female security officer and was found dead when police arrived at the scene, said Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers.
Police did not release the name of the security guard but said she “probably saved many lives today.”
“It’s a tragedy that could have been much worse than it was,” the police chief admitted.
Even if an armed victim isn’t a champion marksman, having his gunfire returned would surely have an effect on the attacker, putting him on the defensive, no?
These guys are never going to do anything honestly. It will always be lie after lie after lie. No chance of teaching responsibility or accountability from them. It’s all about them knowing better when they know nothing.
Look, folks. The Left is just shutting down all "dialog" and lives in a My Little Pony world where they speak a language developed adults outgrow around puberty. They don't get to define my opinion or the definition for terms and they can take their tantrums elsewhere.
Unless I somewhere down deep suspect they are right when they accuse me of being "the old man shouting at the kids to get off his lawn" (what's wrong with that, BTW) than I am immune from reacting to those taunts.
You might as well be trying to be polite to a gang of hooligans harassing you on a city side walk.
There is another obvious point to be made. Which is that if you’re in a room with a Va Tech type gunman - if you don’t have a gun you’re going to get killed. If you do have a gun you may get killed. Which would she prefer? All simulations aside about the likelihood or lack thereof of getting the gun out of the holster, you’re dead meat just by virtue of being in that situation.
Ok one more point. In her “simulation” there is one armed student. What if there were 2 or 3 or more? While the gunman is dealing with armed citizen 1, doesn’t that allow armed citizen 2 or 3 a more or less free shot?
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