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Emanuel Says Obama Insists On Implementing Two State Solution, No Ifs, Ands, or Buts
Israel Policy Forum ^ | 4-16-09 | M. J. Rosenberg

Posted on 04/17/2009 10:53:05 PM PDT by STARWISE

Yedioth Achronoth, the largest circulation daily in Israel, reports today that President Obama intends to see the two-state solution signed, sealed and delivered during his first term.

Rahm Emanuel told an (unnamed) Jewish leader; "In the next four years there is going to be a permanent status arrangement between Israel and the Palestinians on the basis of two states for two peoples, and it doesn't matter to us at all who is prime minister."

He also said that the United States will exert pressure to see that deal is put into place.

"Any treatment of the Iranian nuclear problem will be contingent upon progress in the negotiations and an Israeli withdrawal from West Bank territory," the paper reports Emanuel as saying.

In other words, US sympathy for Israel's position vis a vis Iran depends on Israel's willingness to live up to its commitment to get out of the West Bank and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state there, in Gaza, and East Jerusalem.

Yedioth also reports that Obama is conveying his displeasure with the new Israeli government in several ways.

"US administration officials informed Netanyahu that President Obama will not be able to meet with him in early May, while the AIPAC conference is held in Washington.

The meeting between the new Israeli premier and the president of the United States is perceived in Israel as a sign that the formation process of the new government has been completed and as a salutation by Israel's close friend.

Netanyahu had hoped to capitalize on the opportunity and to meet with Obama during the annual AIPAC conference, but the Americans informed the Israelis that Obama was not going to be 'in town.'

That being the case, the inclination among Netanyahu's aides is to cancel his trip to attend the AIPAC conference and to try to secure a date for a meeting with Obama later in May.

"Sources in Washington also said that the Obama administration would not continue the tradition that developed during the Bush administration of hosting Israeli premiers many times during the year, sometimes with just a phone call's advance notice."

So far neither the White House or the Israeli government has commented on the report which, it should be noted, comes from Shimon Shiffer, one of Israel's most highly respected journalists.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democrat; democrats; emanuel; idiotalert; iran; israel; netanyahu; obama; obamatruthfile; palestine; rahmbo; rahmemanuel; stuckonstupid
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Israel fears US budget cuts may hurt missile defense

Congress to discuss plans to cut security budget, including funding of Arrow-3 missile defense system; Israel fears policy may also jeopardize future sale of F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft

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The Obama administration is once again considering offering Israel the Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) anti-ballistic missile system instead of helping Israel finance most of the development of the Arrow-3 system, Ynet has learned.

Congress is expected to discuss the matter shortly. Israel has rejected a similar offer in the past.

Unlike the Arrow, which is placed on land and is only aimed at intercepting ballistic missiles, the SM-3 is used by the US Navy and is aimed at intercepting aircraft, ships and missiles threatening warships.

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Experts have claimed that Israel cannot give up on the development of the Arrow-3, with one of them saying it was "crucial to Israel's existence."

Congress is also expected to discuss the possibility of reducing its investment in the manufacturing of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft. The US has already approved the sale to Israel of 25 of these aircraft and an option for 50 more in coming years – a deal valued at up to $15.2 billion.

Should the US reduce its funding of the manufacturing of these planes, fewer orders for the plane and a subsequent price hike are expected, possibly making the deal undesirable for Israel.

Rest at link

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Damn him, this cretin's putting the screws to Israel, he's gonna let them swing in the wind. I pray Bibi shows the world and Iran and 0 what true resolve and what duty to protecting your country and people means. 0 is undoing every known important alliance we've had in the world, top to bottom.

Change is Obamanese for deliberate destruction and disaster.

God bless and protect Israel.


1 posted on 04/17/2009 10:53:06 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
signed, sealed and delivered
Interesting word choice.
2 posted on 04/17/2009 10:55:07 PM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: STARWISE

Interesting how the occupant is running around South America talking about how we are all equal, yet seems to me he is basically bullying Israel to do what he wants.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 10:55:59 PM PDT by bushwon (Wonder if our founding fathers would even recognize the USA?!)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Alouette; penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; ...
~~~Pray for Israel .......... PING!


4 posted on 04/17/2009 10:57:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: bushwon

Yes it is and how he and his pipsquesk are telling us how the cow ate the cabbage.


5 posted on 04/17/2009 10:57:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: STARWISE

He has dainty little hands doesn’t he?


6 posted on 04/17/2009 11:02:30 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (He bows to the Saudi King - we don't have Camelot, we have Camel Lot)
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To: STARWISE

And how does this differ from the Bush-Powell-Rice policy?


7 posted on 04/17/2009 11:03:04 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: STARWISE
“And I will bless them them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee: and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed.”

Obama, and Emanuel, do you really want to apply pressure on the children of Israel? Do you have an understanding of just who gave the land to these people?

The land of Israel is NOT the inheritance of the Palestinians, and you didn't draw the map for Israel,
GOD did. You are playing with fire.

8 posted on 04/17/2009 11:06:51 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Message to Obama: WE will run you out of OUR country!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"He has dainty little hands doesn’t he?'

Most ballerinas do!

9 posted on 04/17/2009 11:08:20 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: bushwon

Isn’t it. It appears he loves dissing Israel, courting the Arab world (and purposely and definitely genuflecting to the Saudi king), all jihadists and their lovers like Syria, Hamas, the Taliban and Hezbollah and the world’s despots, Achmedinejad, Castro and Chavez.

And this diabolical creature is in our White House.

Pray for our brave troops and America.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 11:08:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

INTREP


11 posted on 04/17/2009 11:08:58 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: LADY J

Touche’


12 posted on 04/17/2009 11:10:37 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (He bows to the Saudi King - we don't have Camelot, we have Camel Lot)
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To: NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; trooprally; Doctor Raoul; TornadoAlley3; kitkat; ...

~~PING!


13 posted on 04/17/2009 11:11:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

And the two states are Palestine and Jordan.


14 posted on 04/17/2009 11:12:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: All

Rahm Emanuel is today’s STUCK ON STUPID award winner.


15 posted on 04/17/2009 11:13:57 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: STARWISE

Messing with things best left alone....:(


16 posted on 04/17/2009 11:14:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: trumandogz

Are you serious ?

This admin is purposefully gaming Israel .. canceling the appointment with Nentanyahu, putting Israel’s purchase of the F-35’s in doubt, and giving strong signals of their affinity for the insurgents of the world, especially talking with no preconditions with Iran, and the other radical Arabs, etc., as I posted above.

Did you EVER EVER hear Pres. Bush or Condi Rice in their statements about the two-state solution express anything but support and standing with this tiny, surrounded democracy against the attacks from Hamas and Hezbollah, etc.?

Powell? Colin Powell ? He’s an egotistical weasel, a nothing .. he showed his self-invested stripes too many times to even enumerate.


17 posted on 04/17/2009 11:21:08 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Markos33

I agree ... this is fire, the embers soon will be flames, God help us.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 11:22:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

This is the crisis Plughead Biden was cackling about. Ogabe made it clear to plugs that he would not back Israel’s play vis a vis Iran.

The question is will he obstruct Israel??

Will Ogabe’s stance against Israel give the green light to the ISLAMO CRAZY SCUMBAG MUDBATHERS to launch an all out attack against Israel??

How many dead Israelis will it take to Impeach this MARXIST MUSLIM KENYAN??


19 posted on 04/17/2009 11:24:44 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (In Guns We Trust)
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To: Markos33

“And I will bless them them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee: and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed.”

Obama, and Emanuel, do you really want to apply pressure on the children of Israel? Do you have an understanding of just who gave the land to these people?

The land of Israel is NOT the inheritance of the Palestinians, and you didn’t draw the map for Israel,
GOD did. You are playing with fire.


Frighteningly & Obviously they don’t know or don’t care :(


20 posted on 04/17/2009 11:24:54 PM PDT by bushwon (Wonder if our founding fathers would even recognize the USA?!)
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To: Cindy

Israel won’t stand for being dissed and isoloated
like this. They’ll build their own defense industry,
weapons, fighter aircraft in time, if 0 continues
to mess with them so blatantly and despicably. He’s
gonna undo defense contracts that Pres. Bush approved,
the sob.


21 posted on 04/17/2009 11:28:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: bushwon
Frighteningly & Obviously they don’t know or don’t care :(

They will, oh....they will...

22 posted on 04/17/2009 11:29:24 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Life is but a big granola bar.)
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To: STARWISE
"In other words, US sympathy for Israel's position vis a vis Iran depends on Israel's willingness to live up to its commitment to get out of the West Bank and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state there, in Gaza, and East Jerusalem."

In other words, "sympathy" for Israel's "position" (that is, its mulish insistence on its right to exist) v. Iran (a large, resource-rich nation whose messianic nutjob-in-chief has repeatedly threatened Armageddon and derided Israel's legitimacy) is now a pawn.

That's worse than being thrown under the bus. Fortunately I think Netanyahu is smart enough to say to hell with Obama and to hell with America. I wouldn't blame him a bit. We are a perilous ally, and a more perilous benefactor. One becomes dependent on us at great risk-- speaking of Iran, just ask the Shah. Bibi would do his country a great favor to ratchet that back as quickly as possible. And move on Iran before it's too late.

It is beyond reprehensible. Shame on Emanuel, revealed as just another self-hater now. And shame on Hillary Clinton for not standing up and saying, "I speak for foreign policy, thank you very much. Rahm is just the office manager."
23 posted on 04/17/2009 11:30:44 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: STARWISE

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

24 posted on 04/17/2009 11:31:20 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Brad's Gramma

Frighteningly & Obviously they don’t know or don’t care :(

They will, oh....they will...


Spot on!


25 posted on 04/17/2009 11:33:19 PM PDT by bushwon (Wonder if our founding fathers would even recognize the USA?!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

It is beyond reprehensible. Shame on Emanuel,

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Ditto! Beyond shameful and evil.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 11:33:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

Who the hell do they think that they are by telling Israel what to do? What are they going to do when Israel does what they want anyway?


27 posted on 04/17/2009 11:36:19 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
He has dainty little hands doesn’t he?

Yes but he is good at ballet

28 posted on 04/17/2009 11:36:35 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: bushwon

Unfortunately, we American’s will suffer because of this, too...NOT to the degree they will, though.


29 posted on 04/17/2009 11:38:09 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Life is but a big granola bar.)
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To: STARWISE; ExTexasRedhead
If Obama does not cease and desist, no force in the realms of heaven and earth will prevent him from beng subjected to devine wrath. Its in the bag. Obama and Emmanual are as good as gone.Just a matter of time.The only question is how many of us they will take with them.
30 posted on 04/17/2009 11:39:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: STARWISE
I recall during the campaign, the constant line from the doofus biden was that Israel had no better friend than zero. Right,
31 posted on 04/17/2009 11:39:32 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: paul51
...”Israel had no better friend than zero.”

You know, the sad thing is that among our politicians today, that is probably an accurate statement. Israel has no BETTER friend than zero.

32 posted on 04/17/2009 11:50:07 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Message to Obama: WE will run you out of OUR country!)
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To: STARWISE

Obama’s nuanced diplomacy only fools the college kids and intelligensia of America. The Israelis will tell him where to put his Hamas-favored peace treaty. Then he can fail and blame the Israelis.


33 posted on 04/17/2009 11:50:43 PM PDT by When do we get liberated?
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To: paul51; Brad's Gramma; All

Israel stands ready to bomb Iran’s nuclear sites

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2231882/posts


34 posted on 04/17/2009 11:50:46 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

I’d hate to be in Obama’s shoes if he starts messing with God’s chosen people, and I would hate to be in our shoes (as a nation) if/when he does it!


35 posted on 04/17/2009 11:51:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I know .... God won’t be mocked.


36 posted on 04/17/2009 11:52:07 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Candor7

I wholeheartedly agree with you.


37 posted on 04/17/2009 11:55:35 PM PDT by BruceysMom (My dumb heart has now ran off to Hermiston.)
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To: STARWISE

Time for Israel to activate another one of their young female operatives in the states and bring Obama down like they did with Monica and Clinton...snark

No one should really be surprised with this. It was all apparent and obvious during the campaign and for any one who cares about Israel and Israeli security(and these days Israeli security and US security tend to overlap) the evidence was overwhleming as to wher Obama’s sympathies lie and what kind of President he’d be. It was all there.

Given that only 22% of jews voted for McCain I have to conclude that nowadays there is a large segment of jews that just doesn’t care all that much about Israel.

I think the longer we get from the Holocaust and the days of the 67 and 73 wars when Israel’s very existence was at stake and you have a younger genration who have always known Israel and take it for granted that it’s not the issue it is for older jews who may remember a world without Israel or news coverage of the 67 and 73 wars when its fate hung in the balance.

I don’t know if the Jewish vote was broken down by age but I’d bet that if you just took say Jews over 50, McCain did much better than the overall 22% he got, and among Jews over 60 I’d say he did more than much better.

But it’s like in Genesis when there arose a new Pharoah who did not know Joseph...there has arisen a new Jewish population that just doesn’t know or doesn’t care or both.

Sad but True as Metallica might say.


38 posted on 04/17/2009 11:58:02 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: STARWISE
They're poking fingers at the LORD’s chest....
39 posted on 04/18/2009 12:00:22 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama...........every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. 2 Thess 2:10)
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To: STARWISE

Would he also support a 2 state solution in the US...liberal and conservative?


40 posted on 04/18/2009 12:06:21 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Markos33

> “And I will bless them them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee: and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed.”

God sometimes does nasty things to articulate, populist Bad Guys. Ask Herod.


41 posted on 04/18/2009 12:21:37 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: STARWISE

We here in Texas might not mind a 2-state solution, too.

LOL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts


42 posted on 04/18/2009 12:30:18 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: BobL

You’re in a great place. After hearing Rick Perry,
I’d like to be there myself ... where the hurricanes
and fires don’t attack ya, tho .... ;)

Either that, or the islands. If I were wealthy,
I’d be out of this place for the next 4 years.
It’s gonna get gruesome.


43 posted on 04/18/2009 12:38:50 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

I’m counting the days till this Muslim pig is out of the White House and out of our lives.


44 posted on 04/18/2009 12:42:13 AM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
“Wherefore do the wicked live, become old, yea, are mighty in power? -Job 21:3

I've asked my self that same question for many years, but I've come to realize that it's all in His timing and not mine.

Sooner or later though, sooner or later.

45 posted on 04/18/2009 12:47:06 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Message to Obama: WE will run you out of OUR country!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Just hope he bamboozles the other nations like this one. Otherwise were are nada.


46 posted on 04/18/2009 12:50:44 AM PDT by noodler (!)
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To: STARWISE
How could anyone expect Obama to do anything else? To really understand his background, try the 2006 book by Horowitz and Poe, “The Shadow Party.”

Too bad our side has been intimidated in addressing the remedy, without which we will be a very different nation by the time - possibly decades - Obama is no longer supreme commander. In the words of that constitutional scholar, Patrick Leahy in 2008: “Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens.”

Obama’s father never was an “American Citizen.” Obama is a poster boy for the wisdom of our founders when they made the special requirements for president in Article II Section I. Every Senator knew it but was afraid. Obama is good at in-your-face politics. He said, in effect, come get me if you dare, but the Watts and Detroit riots will be picnics (James Carvill in an interview).

Wake up Freepers. This isn't about mysteriously lost birth certificates or Kenyan grandmothers. He put it right up front, as if he could hide it, where most who have never thought about the subtleties of what it means to be “Natural Born,” would figure “he didn't hide it so there must be nothing wrong.” Remember Obama’s interview in Chicago NPR some years ago - I paraphrase - “...the constitution has some good things, but it doesn't let me do some of the things I would like to do.”

Many will say “Well, we'll just let this one slide: after all, he was elected.” We then stop being a nation of laws. Our Senators, all of them, signed Senate resolution 511 last year in which American Citizen parents is unquestioned. Obama, and Soros, and Podesta, and Morton Halperin, and SDS founder Aryeh Neier, and ... are taking control. They have the Executive, CIA, Justice, Treasury. The constitution was written for our protection. If we ignore it, he/they will continue to crush the individual liberties we are watching disappear. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen!

47 posted on 04/18/2009 12:54:42 AM PDT by Spaulding (Wagdadbythebay)
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To: STARWISE

One way to take care of this situation is to make Patrick Fitzgerald aware that everyone is very interested in his ongoing investigation of Operation Boardgames. Whether he is removed from office right away or not the scandal will neuter Obama and the Democrats.


48 posted on 04/18/2009 12:59:46 AM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: STARWISE
You've got to wonder how all of those "Jews for Obama" are now feeling upon hearing this news.
There's nothing like getting stabbed in the back to wake you up.
49 posted on 04/18/2009 1:05:46 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: STARWISE

bttt


50 posted on 04/18/2009 1:07:07 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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