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Grisly slayings brings Mexican drug war to US
AP ^ | April 18, 2009 | PAULINE ARRILLAGA

Posted on 04/18/2009 3:46:22 PM PDT by AuntB

COLUMBIANA, Ala. – Five men dead in an apartment. In a county that might see five homicides in an entire year....

A type of crime, and criminal, once foreign to this landscape of blooming dogwoods had arrived in Shelby County . Sheriff Chris Curry felt it even before he laid eyes on the grisly scene. He called the state. The FBI. The DEA. Anyone he could think of.

"I don't know what I've got," he warned them. "But I'm gonna need help."

The five dead men lay scattered about the living room of one apartment in a complex of hundreds.

Some of the men showed signs of torture: Burns seared into their earlobes revealed where modified jumper cables had been clamped as an improvised electrocution device. Adhesive from duct tape used to bind the victims still clung to wrists and faces...

"We became a hub without knowing it," Sheriff Curry says. "We've got to wake people up because we're seeing it all over the place. It is now firmly located throughout this country."

Unless you have a 50-foot wall around your town, no one should feel immune from this. The citizen in me says, `I can't believe this is happening in my town.' But the cop in me says, `Well, it's only a matter of time' ... because there are high-level drug traffickers in the area.

"They moved their home bases to these little pockets."

One reason for that shift is the ability these days to "blend in in plain sight," as the Atlanta DEA chief puts it. The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; hideinplainsite; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; narcoterror; thankprohibition; wod
"The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities. "

And that is why we must stop the flow of those who may be "decent" people especially coming in illegally. They are nothing but camouflage.

1 posted on 04/18/2009 3:46:23 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Shelby County = Heart of the Heart of Dixie.


2 posted on 04/18/2009 3:48:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: AuntB

Yep. Drug dealers, saboteurs, terrorists, come on in...


3 posted on 04/18/2009 3:49:03 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 88 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: AuntB

That’s it, this is too dangerous. I am calling 911 to demand that somebody come up up here to get these guns out of my house.


4 posted on 04/18/2009 3:52:03 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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To: Paladin2; HiJinx; rabscuttle385; SwinneySwitch

Yes, it’s all over this country, but DHS is worried about you and me!

From my old hometown last week.

April 14, 2009 - 6:43 PM

Gang violence is on the rise in Medford.[Oregon]

In this week’s Crimestoppers, we take a closer look at the growing gang problem in this area.

Police have arrested six people associated with three gang attacks in just the past few weeks.

The most recent attack, police say, three teenagers beat up a 29-year-old father from Ashland while he was eating with his wife and child at the food court in the mall on Saturday.

Gangs have been in the area for years, but now some say the gang members are getting more dangerous and reaching new levels of violence.

Police say four gang members jumped a 16-year-old in Medford late last month, severely fracturing his jaw.

Police say this local highschoolers’ been hit by a gang before.

Lt. Tim Doney with Medford Police says, “we believe this particular man was targeted twice by the group because he wouldn’t join the gang.”

Matt Sweeney works with incarcerated youth gang members and those trying to get out.

“We’re being invaded,” he says.

http://www.ktvl.com/articles/gang_1189817___article.html/police_medford.html


5 posted on 04/18/2009 3:58:29 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB; wardaddy; Black Agnes; kellynla; gubamyster; HiJinx; dennisw

Coming soon to an Amexican barrio near you, thanks to our Quisling traitors.


6 posted on 04/18/2009 4:07:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: AuntB

Much of this internecine in the gangs, but it’s getting troublesome when attacks begin on people who refuse gang invitations.


7 posted on 04/18/2009 4:13:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No, if you don't pay the coyote he will make and example of you!! So the next group pays on time.
8 posted on 04/18/2009 4:26:53 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: AuntB

Look at the bright side....

Illegal alien thugs from Mexico have come to the U.S. to kill other illegal alien thugs from Mexico that our government will not deal effectively with...

Perhaps we SHOULD be grateful the murderous Mexican thugs came to do the job that Americans are unwilling to do!

Right?


9 posted on 04/18/2009 4:51:28 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Travis McGee
Heck the Legislative branch will pass another Unconstutional Crime Bill that will "Show those dirty drug dealers that they are serious!"

Then sit back on their lying you know what and say LOOK WHAT WE DID Problem solved!

10 posted on 04/18/2009 4:56:57 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: AuntB
Since then, Curry has pushed aside concerns about resources and assigned one deputy to a DEA task force, another to work with the FBI. At the behest of the Department of Homeland Security, he joined in a conference call with police chiefs and sheriffs in border states to discuss what he now calls "a common problem."

What, it wasn't a common problem when for the last several years the police chiefs and sheriffs have been screaming upon deaf ears for help? Only when DHS declares it a "common problem" does it officially become one?

I feel safer already!
11 posted on 04/18/2009 6:09:29 PM PDT by Radio Free American? (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: null and void

I’m sure that if and when we give them full citizenship they will renounce their evil, illegal ways and be productive members of the American Society !!! Right !


12 posted on 04/18/2009 6:18:40 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: AuntB
Word is that was a bunch who ripped off their employer for millions, and were killed in retaliation. Luckily, there has been no repeat, and no rise in the level of violence.

We are still quiet and peaceful around here, so far.

13 posted on 04/18/2009 7:35:00 PM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: AuntB

Geraldo thinks we are all racists for wanting to keep this crap out of our communities /s


14 posted on 04/18/2009 7:38:48 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: AuntB

Wake Up America!


15 posted on 04/19/2009 7:10:46 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: river rat
Perhaps we SHOULD be grateful the murderous Mexican thugs came to do the job that Americans are unwilling to do! Right?

I respectfully have to disagree. I'm more than willing to take these slugs out. Have Ruger .357, will travel. :)

16 posted on 04/19/2009 7:33:45 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: AuntB
One reason for that shift is the ability these days to "blend in in plain sight," as the Atlanta DEA chief puts it. The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities.


17 posted on 04/19/2009 7:44:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: blackie; All

Here’s an article about guns going to Mexico...the cartels have their ‘anchor babies’ and winners of the last amnesty working for them. The problem is NOT our guns, it is Mexico’s population entrenched in this country.

A Houston man was sentenced Friday to just over eight years in prison for helping buy more than 100 military-style firearms, some of which ended up in the hands of Mexico’s violent drug cartels.

Prosecutors say John Phillip Hernandez was one of the main members of an organization of 23 people who purchased 339 weapons in a 15-month period. At least 40 of the weapons have been recovered in Mexico and three have been found in Guatemala, according to court documents.

Hernandez was sentenced after pleading guilty in July to one count of making a false statement to a federal firearms licensee.

Buying weapons is legal in Texas, but the purchaser must fill out a government form that indicates whether the purchaser plans to keep the gun for himself or give it to a third party. Hernandez claimed the guns were for himself.

Prosecutor Mark White said Hernandez knew that the guns he bought, or had others buy for him, at Houston-area gun dealers in 2006 and 2007 were going to Mexican drug cartel members. Informants indicated Hernandez told them the guns would be going to Mexico and that they overheard him talking about the Zetas, the Gulf cartel’s infamous hit men, White said.

[snips]http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-gunsmuggling_18tex.ART.State.Edition1.4a9cb02.html


18 posted on 04/19/2009 9:58:56 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

And we can all thank GWB’s refusal for eight years as POTUS to secure the borders and DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS.


19 posted on 04/19/2009 10:42:30 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Moonman62
The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities.

Just good family values people, doing jobs Americans won 't do.

20 posted on 04/19/2009 10:47:07 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AuntB
We should be able to solve this problem by extending blanket amnesty and making them immediate American citizens.

Then they won't fell protected and will have to obey the law!

21 posted on 04/19/2009 10:58:08 AM PDT by Gritty (The spirit of the age is: Ask not what your country can do for you, demand it - Mark Steyn)
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To: AuntB

Wake Up America!


22 posted on 04/19/2009 11:53:17 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: AuntB; GulfBreeze; rellimpank; AH_LiveRight; BGHater; nbhunt; La Lydia; jafojeffsurf; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


23 posted on 04/19/2009 1:57:25 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Sodom and Gomorrah - 2 of God's urban renewal projects!)
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To: AuntB

Forgot to ping you to this one.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2009/04/15/five_arrested_in_connection_wi.html


24 posted on 04/19/2009 2:05:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Thanks for the pings SwinneySwitch. Americans must be made aware there is a clear and present danger, in the form of foreign criminal elements, very present in our nation. This is not a time for Americans to shrink in fear, as that would play into the hands of domestic forces that would use the crisis to elevate government control over the lives of law abiding citizens. It is a time for Americans to demand the government rid our nation of the foreign criminal element and those that provide them camouflage.
25 posted on 04/19/2009 5:37:50 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: AuntB
I can't use the link provided. This one works for me:

Grisly Slayings Brings Mexican Drug War to US

One reason for that shift is the ability these days to "blend in in plain sight," as the Atlanta DEA chief puts it. The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities.

Amazingly honest for an AP article.

26 posted on 04/19/2009 6:30:49 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Paladin2

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27 posted on 04/19/2009 6:31:52 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; All

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=324511641675239#

Counting On Illegal Aliens
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, April 13, 2009 4:20 PM PT

Who Counts?: The next U.S. census chief wants to count people who aren’t
there. The acting director wants to count people who shouldn’t be here.
And Acorn will help do the counting.

Back when he was the Census Bureau’s associate director of statistical
design, Robert M. Groves, nominated to be the next director of the bureau,
recommended that the 1990 census be statistically adjusted to correct an
alleged undercount of minorities in urban areas — areas that tend to vote
heavily Democratic.

Commerce Secretary Robert Mosbacher overruled him, saying the use of
“statistical sampling,” as it’s known, was a form of “political
tampering.” The Supreme Court later ruled in 1999 that statistical
sampling couldn’t be used to apportion House seats among the states, but
didn’t rule out using estimates to redraw district lines within a state.

Statistical sampling is a technique akin to polling. You select what you
consider a representative sample and extrapolate your findings over the
general population.

The problem is that Article 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution forbids
it. It requires an “actual enumeration” of all Americans every 10 years,
not a guess based on statistical sampling. That means counting real, live,
breathing people. The Founding Fathers weren’t fools. Sampling techniques
have changed, but human nature has not.

If the Census Bureau were allowed to use sampling, it would have to
develop formulas for its samples. How you structure the formula affects
the results. It’s possible a party in power might determine the desired
result first, then determine the sampling formula needed to achieve it.

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke says there are no plans to use statistical
sampling in the 2010 census, but there will be enormous pressure to do so.
Remember that Judd Gregg withdrew his nomination to be Commerce Secretary
when plans to run the census out of the White House under Chief of Staff
Rahm Emmanuel were revealed.

On April 1, Secretary Locke joined several activist groups, including the
National Council of La Raza and the League of United Latin American
Citizens, at a press conference to talk about efforts to ensure a full
count of Latinos in the 2010 census.

After the press conference, acting director Thomas Mesenbourg said the
Census Bureau intended to reach out to illegal aliens through “trusted”
community organizations.

“It’s more than just the Census Bureau telling them that it’s safe,” said
Mesenbourg. “We need somebody that they view as a trusted voice — somebody
in a community organization that can assure them it’s safe.”

One of those trusted organizations, the Association of Community
Organizations for Reform Now, infamous for its documented participation in
vote fraud, signed on as a national partner with the Census Bureau in
February. It will help recruit the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to
go door to door. Acorn has helped ensure “people” like Mary Poppins and
Jive Turkey were registered to vote. We wouldn’t want the census to miss
them.

Groves has spent decades researching how to improve response rates, and
apparently one of the ways being considered is to remind people of the
federal goodies that come along with being counted.

Page 24 of the Census Bureau’s 351-page 2010 plan for the census advises
that “messages that increase knowledge of the benefits of filling out the
Census improve motivation and favorability towards Census participation.”
People should be reminded that the “Census determines how over $300
billion per year in federal funds get divided among states and local areas
of the country.”

This is even if the people are illegally here or are just estimated to be
here.

The nation depends on an accurate count of who and where we are. But it
shouldn’t be used to create a permanent class dependent on government and
the drawing of lines to create a permanent Democratic majority.


28 posted on 04/19/2009 8:15:19 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: river rat
“Some of the men showed signs of torture: Burns seared into their earlobes revealed where modified jumper cables had been clamped as an improvised electrocution device. Adhesive from duct tape used to bind the victims still clung to wrists and faces, from mouths to noses.

As a final touch, throats were slashed open, post-mortem.”

“Agents described it as friendly competition turned deadly among a group of distributors from Atlanta and Birmingham that often sold and shared drug loads when one or the other group was running low. At some point, about a half-million in drug money went missing. One group suspected the other of taking it, and went after the five men at Cahaba Lakes.

The money was never found.”

I am much more concerned with the sherrifs deputies that these guys have bought off, and the CBP and DHS corruption. Google Dallas county Sherrif deputy charged with cocaine. The killing has just begun.

If and when we the people wake up to what is happening, it may well be too late. The DEA, ICE, and FBI all feed the problem. Build your wall on the Mexican side of the border. You will not because you would rather impose on fellow Americans that happen to be Texans, because you fear Mexico. Remember the Alamo, Come and Take It.

29 posted on 04/19/2009 9:09:00 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: AuntB
Unless you have a 50-foot wall around your town, no one should feel immune from this. The citizen in me says, `I can't believe this is happening in my town.' But the cop in me says, `Well, it's only a matter of time' ... because there are high-level drug traffickers in the area.

"They moved their home bases to these little pockets."

One reason for that shift is the ability these days to "blend in in plain sight," as the Atlanta DEA chief puts it. The flood of Hispanic immigrants into American communities to work construction and plant jobs helped provide cover for traffickers looking to expand into new markets or build hubs in quiet suburbs with fewer law officers than the big cities.

The people have been complaining in earnest about just this sort of problem for 10 years and more. The Federal government doesn't want a wall and does everything it can to help the illegals immigrants and the criminals among them to blend. Now Mexico's internal drug is slowly becoming our internal drug war and NOW the cops and officials react with surprise and shock.

30 posted on 04/19/2009 9:10:07 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: AuntB

“Buying weapons is legal in Texas, but the purchaser must fill out a government form that indicates whether the purchaser plans to keep the gun for himself or give it to a third party.”

Do you advocate making the purchase of weapons illegal in Texas?

If so, we shall have no further discussion.


31 posted on 04/19/2009 9:20:23 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: AH_LiveRight

“Do you advocate making the purchase of weapons illegal in Texas?

If so, we shall have no further discussion.”

Why on earth would you even think that? I didn’t write the article. I must say that is something I’ve never been accused of and I thought I’d heard it all.

Are you just looking for a reason to argue? If so you “shall” have to find someone else.


32 posted on 04/19/2009 9:24:22 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: AuntB

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33 posted on 04/19/2009 9:27:12 PM PDT by southland ( 1 John 4:4 , Zec 12:9, PS 121, PRO 3.5,6)
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To: AuntB

Sorry. I did not intend to appear argumentative.
The gist of the main article, and the source that was quoted in your post appeared to slam Texas.

Pride seems to go before a fall ;)


34 posted on 04/19/2009 9:57:10 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: AuntB

35 posted on 04/22/2009 9:18:48 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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