Skip to comments.Obama flashback: There is no heaven or hell, all ways lead to the same path
Posted on 04/18/2009 11:55:15 PM PDT by cdchik123
"I am a Christian," the 42-year-old Illinois state senator and Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate says, as one of the nearby customers interrupts to congratulate him on his recent primary win. Obama shakes the man's hand and says, "Thank you very much. I appreciate that," before turning his attention directly back to the question.
"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.
"That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."
"The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There's the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven't embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they're going to hell."
Obama doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.
But he's not sure if he'll be going to heaven, either.
"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," he says. "When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."
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Most of us can guess.
He sounds LOST to me.
Easy enough fix for that. Whosoever believe in him, shall not die.
The not knowing belief is from the queeranus.
"When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."He sure could have used a teleprompter back then. On his own, the dude makes no sense.
"Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me"...John 14:6
“But he’s not sure if he’ll be going to heaven, either.”
I’m pretty sure not.
The druggie doesn’t believe in heaven. He doesn’t believe in hell. He doesn’t believe Jesus was special. He doesn’t believe some values are better than others. But he calls himself a Christian?
That is true. Anyone who has used a map knows that. Not exactly bursting with doctrinal significance here.
Its his NLP-training. When in doubt, say something that is platitudinously true.
Platitudes are what The Usurper does best.
(We, or course, know that these are just the opposite of “plongitudes.”)
LOL, ‘plongtitudes’. Hadn’t heard that, will use it!
I’m not sure of your stature, but if you are small, you might want to use that joke when you’re on an “implication.”
(That’s a holiday taken by a very tiny person.)
It sounds like a shallow faith to me. As usual, he says the opposite of the truth.
Some people amaze me. We can’t cure the common cold, but yet people like Obama can tell us the exact nature of the afterlife, as if that’s a line in the sand he can enforce.
The druggie doesnt believe in heaven. He doesnt believe in hell. He doesnt believe Jesus was special. He doesnt believe some values are better than others. But he calls himself a Christian?
He believes in the state and what little he understands of science. He calls himself a Christian because it is necessary for him to get elected.
I doubt that he even believes in science, other than the science of Marxism. His "god" is the power of the state: himself.
After many years under Rev. Wright you get that kind of religion. You the kind,the kind that will bust Hell wide open; and Satan will say “yes we can”.
Obama does not have an abiding faith like George Bush, but has used church membership and religious sentiment for political gain. His religious mentors, Rev. Wright and Fr. Pflager, are not not holy men, but political organizers in the guise of clergy. Obama’s faith is as shallow as he is.
Huh...I was gonna make a comment about the “values” of a Commie globe-trotting slut but I reckon yours is classier.
What a nutless wonder.
He doesn't know that he came into this world condemned already. He obviously has never been under conviction.
In my view, there is no question this is why Oprah loved him so early on. They both believe in more than one “way” and are into the new agey type belief system for sure.
Not a Muslim.