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Obama flashback: There is no heaven or hell, all ways lead to the same path
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 2004

Posted on 04/18/2009 11:55:15 PM PDT by cdchik123

"I am a Christian," the 42-year-old Illinois state senator and Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate says, as one of the nearby customers interrupts to congratulate him on his recent primary win. Obama shakes the man's hand and says, "Thank you very much. I appreciate that," before turning his attention directly back to the question.

"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

"That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."

~snip~

"The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There's the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven't embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they're going to hell."

Obama doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.

But he's not sure if he'll be going to heaven, either.

"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," he says. "When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: christianity; obama; obamaandgod; obamafaith
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http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html

1 posted on 04/18/2009 11:55:15 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123
"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die,"

Most of us can guess.

2 posted on 04/19/2009 12:07:23 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: cdchik123
"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," he says.

He sounds LOST to me.

Easy enough fix for that. Whosoever believe in him, shall not die.

The not knowing belief is from the queeranus.

3 posted on 04/19/2009 12:10:33 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Yes we can ~ Thank you satan.)
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"When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."
He sure could have used a teleprompter back then. On his own, the dude makes no sense.
4 posted on 04/19/2009 12:12:53 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: cdchik123
"So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place,

"Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me"...John 14:6

5 posted on 04/19/2009 12:51:32 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: cdchik123

“But he’s not sure if he’ll be going to heaven, either.”

I’m pretty sure not.


6 posted on 04/19/2009 1:07:56 AM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: cdchik123; Salamander; Markos33
"...and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother..."

Soon to be published in his next book, "How I raised two of the cutest little Marxists you ever did see."
7 posted on 04/19/2009 1:19:29 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: cdchik123

The druggie doesn’t believe in heaven. He doesn’t believe in hell. He doesn’t believe Jesus was special. He doesn’t believe some values are better than others. But he calls himself a Christian?


8 posted on 04/19/2009 1:51:10 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: cdchik123
I believe that there are many paths to the same place.

That is true. Anyone who has used a map knows that. Not exactly bursting with doctrinal significance here.

Its his NLP-training. When in doubt, say something that is platitudinously true.

9 posted on 04/19/2009 2:07:28 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Platitudes are what The Usurper does best.

(We, or course, know that these are just the opposite of “plongitudes.”)


10 posted on 04/19/2009 2:19:44 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: shibumi

LOL, ‘plongtitudes’. Hadn’t heard that, will use it!


11 posted on 04/19/2009 2:20:39 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

I’m not sure of your stature, but if you are small, you might want to use that joke when you’re on an “implication.”

(That’s a holiday taken by a very tiny person.)


12 posted on 04/19/2009 2:28:49 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: cdchik123
So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues.

It sounds like a shallow faith to me. As usual, he says the opposite of the truth.

13 posted on 04/19/2009 2:42:05 AM PDT by Need4Truth (POR Party Out - RINOs Out)
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To: cdchik123

Some people amaze me. We can’t cure the common cold, but yet people like Obama can tell us the exact nature of the afterlife, as if that’s a line in the sand he can enforce.


14 posted on 04/19/2009 2:46:21 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: TurtleUp

The druggie doesn’t believe in heaven. He doesn’t believe in hell. He doesn’t believe Jesus was special. He doesn’t believe some values are better than others. But he calls himself a Christian?
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He believes in the state and what little he understands of science. He calls himself a Christian because it is necessary for him to get elected.


15 posted on 04/19/2009 3:47:18 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer
He believes in the state and what little he understands of science. He calls himself a Christian because it is necessary for him to get elected.

I doubt that he even believes in science, other than the science of Marxism. His "god" is the power of the state: himself.

16 posted on 04/19/2009 4:18:12 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: cdchik123
Here, you might enjoy this vanity:

The Barackitudes

Cheers!

17 posted on 04/19/2009 5:21:25 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

After many years under Rev. Wright you get that kind of religion. You the kind,the kind that will bust Hell wide open; and Satan will say “yes we can”.


18 posted on 04/19/2009 5:49:09 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: cdchik123

Obama does not have an abiding faith like George Bush, but has used church membership and religious sentiment for political gain. His religious mentors, Rev. Wright and Fr. Pflager, are not not holy men, but political organizers in the guise of clergy. Obama’s faith is as shallow as he is.


19 posted on 04/19/2009 6:13:55 AM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: shibumi

Huh...I was gonna make a comment about the “values” of a Commie globe-trotting slut but I reckon yours is classier.


20 posted on 04/19/2009 7:02:31 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: cdchik123

What a nutless wonder.


21 posted on 04/19/2009 9:36:56 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: cdchik123; shibumi
“Obama doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.”

He doesn't know that he came into this world condemned already. He obviously has never been under conviction.

22 posted on 04/19/2009 10:57:37 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Message to Obama: WE will run you out of OUR country!)
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To: Markos33

In my view, there is no question this is why Oprah loved him so early on. They both believe in more than one “way” and are into the new agey type belief system for sure.


23 posted on 04/19/2009 6:28:45 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123
No heaven or hell?

Not a Muslim.

24 posted on 04/19/2009 6:44:49 PM PDT by Salman
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