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Man Fires Bullet With Hammer
WANE-TV ^ | April 24, 2009 | Alyssa Ivanson

Posted on 04/24/2009 7:15:08 PM PDT by John W

PLEASANT LAKE, Ind. (WANE) - George Fath moved to his mobile home in rural Steuben County two months ago. The previous owners left a lot of trash in the yard, so Fath was cleaning up Thursday afternoon. That's when he found a 22 caliber bullet in the yard. He didn't want his three young boys to get hurt from the bullet, so Fath decided to dispose of it.

"My hammer was outside so I took the bullet and put it on a rock and smacked it with the hammer," Fath said.

Fath wasn't expecting the bullet to fire.

"It went off and went into my belly and knocked me on my butt," Fath said.

Fath said he thought he was shot in the stomach. His wife called 911. According to the police report the bullet didn't actually hit Fath.

"Fath was not bleeding, and it did not appear that Fath was struck with the bullet. Fath suffered a minor abrasion to the area of his stomach," police records read.

But, Fath told NewsChannel 15 the bullet did go in his stomach and doctors removed it at the hospital.

"I smacked the bullet and fell down and blood came pouring out," Fath said. "I was hitting it to smash it. I didn't expect it to go bang."

Fath said he'll never hit a bullet with a hammer again.

"I wasn't thinking about it. It was the dumbest thing I ever did in my life. I suggest nobody do it," Fath said.

Police agree. Steuben County Sheriff Rick Lewis said no one should ever hit a bullet with anything.

"The round can go anywhere. It could hit the person striking it with a hammer, a neighbor, a child in the yard. There's just no controlling where the bullet will go," Lewis said.

A bullet doesn't have to be in a gun to fire.

"Anytime you get pressure [to the end of the bullet] to cause it to explode, it will fire," Lewis said.

If someone finds a bullet, don't throw it in the trash either.

"Call local law enforcement and we can take car of it," Lewis said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
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To: Jet Jaguar

Think I read a Darwin Award a few yrs. ago about a couple bubbas that did just that.

Cartridge got hot , went off and they wrecked on a bridge.

IIRC one of them had some testicular damage.


101 posted on 04/24/2009 8:22:35 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: LukeL
For dud .22 rounds, usually I can just bend the bullet out of the case sideways with my fingers
102 posted on 04/24/2009 8:23:47 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: jurroppi1

Did you ever drop an M-80 mud ball in a topless 55gal barrel of water?


103 posted on 04/24/2009 8:28:14 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: Vinnie

For the record, I did not sustain testicular damage. But, the casing went through my beer can and into my LEG.


104 posted on 04/24/2009 8:28:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: DonnerT

We put them under empty 5 gallon buckets to see how far they’d launch. It was actually pretty impressive.

No mud balls though, never saw or heard of that.


105 posted on 04/24/2009 8:30:00 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: al baby

Slinkys work much better than butter knives.


106 posted on 04/24/2009 8:31:58 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: al baby

That is soooo true. Dick (4 years) and I (8 years) were in his basement when he put one dart into a wall outlet. Nothing happened so he put a second one into the wall outlet. When nothing happened again, he placed a third across the first two. The spark must have been half a foot long and he blew out every circuit in the house. I don’t remember anything after that, but I was enough older that I should have known better and probably got in trouble too.


107 posted on 04/24/2009 8:34:03 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: EricT.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!
EricT was the first after 50 some odd responses to opine that the bullet went no-where!
It was the brass casing that probably flew somewhere.
Keep the goober away from electric outlets, as has already been advised........


108 posted on 04/24/2009 8:36:55 PM PDT by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

What the hell kind of tenants were in those rental houses?


109 posted on 04/24/2009 8:38:12 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: John W

How stupid, why didn’t he just throw it away?


110 posted on 04/24/2009 8:38:17 PM PDT by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Love that pic. But it was made as a joke by someone wearing an ATF hat.


111 posted on 04/24/2009 8:42:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: John W
A bullet doesn't have to be in a gun to fire.

No, it just has to be in a CARTRIDGE (excepting muzzleloaders and cap'n ball revolvers). The CARTRIDGE will fire the BULLET if the PRIMER is struck, igniting the PROPELLANT CHARGE.

It's amazing how ignorant journalists are about firearms. They virtually NEVER get the facts right. Never!

112 posted on 04/24/2009 8:47:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: jurroppi1

The fun really started when we discovered that cherry bomb and m-80 fuses were water proof.

The drum became a round bottomed shell casing for a water bullet that stayed together until it fell back to earth.

Sometimes I wonder how cousins and I escaped death 50 years ago.

Did you know that a common toad can out jump a bull frog when you touch his tail with a jumper wire from an electric fence? And a cousin can jump even further when you give him a jumper wire with a break in the insulation?


113 posted on 04/24/2009 8:49:10 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: John W

When I was a kid, my dad had an anvil in the garage. I took a new roll of paper caps one day, put it on the anvil and smacked it as hard as I could with a hammer. I saw the spark, I smelt the gunpowder, but I didn’t hear a thing. I thought that was very strange. Then my mom burst into the garage and I could see her lips moving, but no words coming out. It took a few minutes for my hearing to return. She heard the roll of caps detonate from the kitchen and came running.


114 posted on 04/24/2009 8:58:36 PM PDT by Grig
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To: John W

I hate to generalize, but if your front steps are made of aluminum, chances seem better than not that you are not a deep thinker. Ever watch COPS? It seems that the shallow end of the gene puddle congregates where the houses have wheels. Or maybe it’s just me.


115 posted on 04/24/2009 9:01:17 PM PDT by weeder
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To: John W
Fath said he'll never hit a bullet with a hammer again.

If I had to divide the world into three types of people, I'd have to say:

Type I - Would never hit a bullet with a hammer.
Type II - Learns after the first time not to do it again.
Type III - Never learns.

At least this guy is not a Type III...

116 posted on 04/24/2009 9:02:20 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Check out Puppy News at www.buyingapuppy.com)
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To: Graymatter

“When we were little...back in Stone Age...we had these long strips of red paper with dots of powder embedded in them, and when you hit them with a hammer, they made a real nice bang.
They were in strips because you fed them into toy guns...”

Yep, they were called cap pistols.

Mahalo


117 posted on 04/24/2009 9:02:30 PM PDT by Islander2 (Abort Planned Parenthood and other abortuaries)
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To: rightwingcrazy

Some people can only learn certain lessons going down a very hard (and dumb) road.


118 posted on 04/24/2009 9:21:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Pontiac
I found this in the first year or so that I got back into detecting, most from parks and school yards...

Since then I've found about 5X that, and eyeball found a whole clip of .380 to boot (homey was gonna be WAY bummed when he got to the drive-by and realized he only had one in the chamber, if that...)

119 posted on 04/24/2009 9:23:50 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid.”

120 posted on 04/24/2009 9:25:44 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Graymatter

Ever put “strike anywhere” matches on an anvil and hit them? quite the bang for a kid...


121 posted on 04/24/2009 9:27:57 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: John W
Fath said he'll never hit a bullet with a hammer again.

Reckon why not?

122 posted on 04/24/2009 9:30:47 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“One move and the ATF guy gets it!” /blazing-saddles


123 posted on 04/24/2009 9:31:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: John W
"I smacked the bullet and fell down and blood came pouring out," Fath said. "I was hitting it to smash it. I didn't expect it to go bang." Fath said he'll never hit a bullet with a hammer again.

Yea, but God help him if he finds an unexploded shell in his yard..
124 posted on 04/24/2009 9:34:56 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (We've gone from Jefferson to the Jeffersons)
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To: John W

“Fath said he’ll never hit a bullet with a hammer again. “

He will instead, just dispose of unwanted bullets either in his oven, or in his lit charcoal grill.


125 posted on 04/24/2009 9:35:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: John W
"It went off and went into my belly and knocked me on my butt,"

A .22 knocked him on his buttocks? Must have been badly off balance to begin with.

Cartridges which are set off, or cook off as in a fire, outside of a chamber which provides the strength to contain the pressure of the gasses produces by the powder burning, either split, like a firecracker, or expel the bullet at very low speed, or both.

Even a .22 fired from a handgun or a rifle isn't likely to be knocking anyone, not even a Mary Martin type, on their ass.

Might kill you if it clipped an artery, or from infection even from a minor wound. (.22 bullets are usually lubricated and pick up all sorts of nasty stuff).

126 posted on 04/24/2009 9:35:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: John W
Fath said he'll never hit a bullet with a hammer again.

And he might not vote for Obama in 2012 again, either...

127 posted on 04/24/2009 9:38:05 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz's lawn jockey doesn't speak Austrian)
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To: John W

Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread, as cement is to concrete, etc. When will they ever learn?


128 posted on 04/24/2009 9:38:22 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: headstamp 2

***What the hell kind of tenants were in those rental houses?***

Good question. It was a mining and oil drilling area. We were renters also. You would be surprised at the stuff we found in them.


129 posted on 04/24/2009 9:38:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: DonnerT

I had a buddy in high school with an arc welder and acetylene torch. On 4th of July one year they got around to taking hefty trash bags and putting them under 40 gallon or so metal garbage can, filling the bag with acetylene and setting the welder contacts under it. Then they’d go into the garage and turn the welder on, nearly sending the can into low earth orbit with a window rattling boom and a resounding crash when it came back down to earth...


130 posted on 04/24/2009 9:39:13 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: All

I think he’s full of beans on how he shot himself. There have been plenty of studies done, and the brass will go a hell of lot farther than the bullet. Without something, like a chamber/barrel to contain and direct the pressure, there really isn’t any direction to the energy, and frankly, with smokless power, if it ain’t contained, it doesn’t build much pressure. I suggest that the local law enforcement folks investigate this thoroughly. My guess is that they will find a gun somewhere.
I am a certified firearms, and reloading instructor, and I have had ammo pop on me in the form of the rechargable battery pack from my camera flash setting one off in a jacket pocket. I jumped pretty good. There was a scorch mark, but the cotton pocket was fine and contained the bullet and case.


131 posted on 04/24/2009 9:44:11 PM PDT by Tracker47
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To: LukeL
Yeah, that part was misleading as well, also a 22lr is a very cheaply made round, and you could easily pull the bullet off the casing with a pair of pliers.

YOu can do that with high powered military rifle cartridges.

Ask me how I know... I had a problem with aftermarket magazines for my 7.62x51 H&K. About the 3rd or 4th round from the end would stovepipe, putting a big dent in the case. I pulled the bullets with a pair of pliers, well two pair, and burned the powder...That last turned out to be the "more than I expected" part... but only because I was living an apartment at the time, and burned several catridges worth on my patio. Kinda scorched the underside of the balcony above. :) Nice pretty purple flame, a BIG pretty purple flame.

132 posted on 04/24/2009 9:44:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DonnerT
And a cousin can jump even further when you give him a jumper wire with a break in the insulation?

My Grandfather would check the spark on the RidgeRunner (ground up built 4 wheel drive vehicle with a 1946 4 cylinder, air cooled, Wisconsin engine from an old hay baler) by pulling the plug wires off and just feeling it. I was close enough once or twice for him to grab hold of me and ask if I thought it was firing properly...

133 posted on 04/24/2009 9:45:58 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

***He will instead, just dispose of unwanted bullets either in his oven, or in his lit charcoal grill.***

When I was young (8) way back in 1956 New Mexico I had a Navajo Indian friend. He and I would go to his house and start a bonfire then throw .22 cartriges in it to listen to them pop!

I am surprised we kids didn’t get seriously injured from some of the stunts we pulled then.


134 posted on 04/24/2009 9:46:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Graymatter
.we had these long strips of red paper with dots of powder embedded in them, and when you hit them with a hammer, they made a real nice bang.

Hitting a whole roll of them at one time makes an even nicer bang. Do it in the just inside an open garage and you get a nice booming effect.

135 posted on 04/24/2009 9:48:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
He and I would go to his house and start a bonfire then throw .22 cartriges in it to listen to them pop!

Last fall, I watched a gun store, well a pawn shop that did a lot of firearms business, new firearms and ammunition burn to the ground. It sounded like popcorn, only I was 100+ yards away. Firemen didn't seem overly concerned about being much closer to it than I was. Some were even almost on top of the fire on the ladder truck's extended ladder.

136 posted on 04/24/2009 10:05:44 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Tracker47; All

“I think he’s full of beans on how he shot himself. There have been plenty of studies done, and the brass will go a hell of lot farther than the bullet. Without something, like a chamber/barrel to contain and direct the pressure, there really isn’t any direction to the energy, and frankly, with smokless power, if it ain’t contained, it doesn’t build much pressure. I suggest that the local law enforcement folks investigate this thoroughly. My guess is that they will find a gun somewhere.
I am a certified firearms, and reloading instructor, and I have had ammo pop on me in the form of the rechargable battery pack from my camera flash setting one off in a jacket pocket. I jumped pretty good. There was a scorch mark, but the cotton pocket was fine and contained the bullet and case.”

Finally, someone that knows what they are talking about. A cartridge not in a firearm won’t propel the bullet, it is more likely to toss the case. Or the case will rupture. I have seen pictures of ammo subjected to fire and the cases usually burst. I don’t see how a 22 caliber rimfire round hit with a hammer on a rock is going to present much of a projectile danger. My biggest fear would be small fragments hitting the fool’s eyes.


137 posted on 04/24/2009 10:11:38 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Zman516

I’m not going to try it either. :-)


138 posted on 04/24/2009 10:16:05 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Disambiguator

My problem was with the sheriff. He didn’t get the information right either.


139 posted on 04/24/2009 10:20:21 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: LukeL
A 22lr is a rim fire round there is no primer.

The primer is in the rim. It's just not a replaceable Boxer or Berdan center fire primer. A cartridge "fired" in this fashion doesn't develop much velocity as the pressure developed is not confined in the chamber and accelerating the bullet in a controlled fashion down the barrel. It is essentially a brass firecracker. It was a dumb stunt.

140 posted on 04/24/2009 10:30:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Axenolith
Ever put “strike anywhere” matches on an anvil and hit them? quite the bang for a kid...

The wood strike anywhere matches launch beautifully from a BB gun barrel. Fired against a hard surface, the tip makes a healthy pop on contact.

141 posted on 04/24/2009 10:42:11 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: srweaver

That and I was thinking as we watched this story, who reported it and what made the newsroom decide they should run this piece. Goes without saying the subject is just nuts. To do something kind of dingy and then agree to appear on camera. He does seem to be somewhat of an attention whore, though, as many have pointed out he lied about his injury, obviously.


142 posted on 04/25/2009 4:18:18 AM PDT by John W
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To: al baby
1952
3 9 yo boys
1 handfull of .22 shorts
Pliers
Nail
Hammer
Bullets ricocheting down residential street
9 yos run for it...
143 posted on 04/25/2009 4:46:31 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: razorback-bert; hiredhand

This is what happens when you school the populace, through propaganda and lies, that firearms and ammo are eeeeeeeevil !

They try and destroy that which they haven’t a clue about and hurt themselves and or others, directly and indirectly, due their own ignorance of the facts .

Sort of like gun control idiots.....;o)

Glad no one was hurt.


144 posted on 04/25/2009 5:52:08 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; MEG33; Old Sarge; txradioguy; beachn4fun; StarCMC; Lady Jag; trussell; LUV W; ...

LOL at the replies ping


145 posted on 04/25/2009 6:29:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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To: Islander2; jurroppi1; DonnerT; vetvetdoug; knarf; Axenolith; El Gato
Yep, they were called cap pistols.

Oh my! We were some naughty little freepers, weren't we?

I never did try doing a whole roll at once, for the mega-bang. I stuck to hitting the little spot accurately with a small hammer.

But then, I'm a female. ;)

146 posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:20 AM PDT by Graymatter (Don't enable destroyers. File for chapter 44 -- barackruptcy.)
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To: Squantos
I knew these two guys when I was growing up. We were middle teens at the time. They found a .30-06 cartridge and one took it to the garage, squeezed it into a vise, aimed the projectile end at a block of wood on the bench top and was going to whack the primer with a punch and hammer. His brother told him it was probably a bad idea. The moron with the hammer told him that the bullet would simply fire into the block of wood. I remember at the time (even before taking up reloading) thinking that this whole thing sounded like a supremely BAD idea.

So there stands one with the cartridge in a vise, ready with hammer and punch. The other is standing across the room trying to convince him that this isn't a good idea. The one across the room threatened to TELL MOM unless moron #1 at least put on some gloves and eye protection. Moron #1 complied...set the punch on the primer of the cartridge, drew the hammer back.....and....

You can probably guess the rest. I wasn't there, so I got this second hand from his younger brother who was at a relatively safe distance across the room. After the *KB*, he ran around the room howling like a scalded dog. Then of course there was NO way he could keep his Mom from seeing where the dozen or so small pieces of brass entered his face. The gloves prevented injury to his hands and the safety glasses saved his eyes. His Mom took him to the doc, and then according to his little brother kicked his ass. I was over there about a week later thinking, "Sheesh...Even I wouldn't trying something as dumb as this!"

They did keep the bullet though, because as you can imagine it didn't go far. :-)


147 posted on 04/25/2009 6:41:24 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Graymatter

I used to lay them out and hit them in succession as fast as I could with a hammer like you describe. There really was no comparison to the whole roll properly smashed with a maul. My ears start ringing just thinking about it.


148 posted on 04/25/2009 6:46:56 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: LukeL

His page says he lives in the South so there’s a 10 in 10 chance that he does... ;-)


149 posted on 04/25/2009 6:47:03 AM PDT by DrewsMum (Let me get this straight--We can kill babies by mutilation, but we can't throw water on our enemies?)
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To: knarf
Next came the pipe stuck in the ground, a lit firecracker and a marble.

Hey. I resemble that remark!

Better yet, using the powder from 8 or 10 unexploded firecrackers in a pipe with one good one at the bottom. All you needed was a hole drilled in the side.

150 posted on 04/25/2009 6:48:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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