Skip to comments.Italy Cruise Ship Fires on Somali Pirates
Posted on 04/26/2009 2:03:38 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
ROME An Italian cruise ship fended off a pirate attack off the coast of Somalia, with its security forces exchanging fire with the bandits, the commander said Saturday.
Cmdr. Ciro Pinto told Italian state radio that six men in a small white boat approached the Msc Melody and opened fire Saturday night, but retreated after security forces aboard the cruise ship returned fire.
Domenico Pellegrino, head of the ship-owner Msc Cruises, told ANSA news agency that all 1,500 passengers and crew aboard the Melody were safe, and credited Pinto for his "cool-headed" handling of the incident.
The attack occurred about 180 miles north of the Seychelles. The ship was on a 22-day cruise from Durban, South Africa, to Genoa, Italy.
ANSA said the ship was now headed as scheduled to the Jordanian port of Aqaba.
Pirates have attacked more than 100 ships off the Somali coast over the last year, reaping an estimated $1 million in ransom for each successful hijacking, according to analysts and country experts.
Another Italian-owned vessel remains in the hands of pirates. The Italian-flagged tugboat Buccaneer was seized off Somalia on April 11 with 16 crew members aboard.
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Shoot ... and ask questions later.
Hell, sounds like a great idea for a vacation trip to me. Get a bunch of ex-grunts and wannabees together, hire a cruise ship and go trolling for pirates.
At some point the Somalis will sink a tanker or cruise ship with an rpg. Then the question will be, where was Obambi.
“At some point the Somalis will sink a tanker or cruise ship with an rpg. Then the question will be, where was Obambi.”
With the messiah in office, they will still blame Bush.
yes very good news. Lets hope that at least some of the pirates did get killed during this fight.
We should be issuing letters of marque, and allowing privateers to troll for pirates while armed with heavy machine guns and TOW missiles.
Sounds like fun
> At some point the Somalis will sink a tanker or cruise ship with an rpg. Then the question will be, where was Obambi.
I doubt it is possible. Many of those big vessels have double hulls, and most of them have multiple watertight compartments. They might make a big hole in the vessel, but the crew should be able to isolate that particular compartment, close off the watertight doors and pump out any extra sea-water that has gotten in. Tankers and ocean-going liners are very, very hard to sink like that.
But the same question “where is Obambi?” would definitely be asked if the RPG was fired into the ball-room and 20 passengers got blown to bits.
There ya go!
They have cruises for knitting clubs. Cruises for cancer survivors.
Time to have a cruise that specializes in gun lovers. And their guns, of course!
But the same question where is Obambi? would definitely be asked if the RPG was fired into the ball-room and 20 passengers got blown to bits.
See how that works?
This catch-and-release concept for pirates is a sick joke. Apparently, tho’, that happened last week because it was against the law in the Netherlands to hold the pirates once they were captured.
I would be in favor of hanging the pirates from the battleship’s yardarm.
Used to be able to shoot clays off the aft section of a cruise ship . Long gone now .
unfortunately not only the netherlands release them. Also the Germans,the US.... did exactly the same several times.
no wonder you see this catched pirate smiling all over his face. if i would be a pirate i guess i would be laughing too when you can see how stupid the so called “western” world behaves. just for the record. we send them financial aid to buy weapons, we send them food to feed the pirates of tomorrow.. and finaly we send them unarmed ships (protected by our proud navys who are not allowed to do anything) to make buisness.
You would need twenty RPG’s, and know where to, and...maybe...a fire...would eventually..
A few semi auto rifles firing from the stable heights would be enough to put holes in their fiberglass, and themselves. For them, however, hitting a ship from a bouncing, pitching small boat is possible, somewhere, but hitting a person or a target on the ship would be impossible.
You could more or less stand out in the open on the ship and from the combination of poor marksmanship and being on a little boat they would never hit you. Meanwhile for you, it’s ‘hand me another magazine’.
It would suck to be a hundred miles out in the shipping lanes in a sinking small boat. Maybe bleeding.
Pirate's creed: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (nor due they require any law)
Uck. You couldn't pay me to take that trip.
What a lovely thought. A good coming of age activity for our young men and a great way to vent for pissed off femininsts. The feminists get to shoot men freely, getting some of that inner resentment out.
The Coast Guard has a 30 cal machine gun and a 50 cal sniper rifle on their drug helocopters. A 50 puts a nice hole in a boat or an engine.
There is one cruise line (which I can not name) that has a SWAT team on every one of it’s ships. It also has divers that are constantly under the ship guarding it at every port stop.
If more ships start fighting back, piracy won’t seem so attractive as a career choice.
“Tankers and ocean-going liners are very, very hard to sink like that.”
Hmmm...Remember the “unsinkable” Titanic?
> Hmmm...Remember the unsinkable Titanic?
(It was a bit before my time, but...)
IIRC the ice berg opened up its side across multiple water-tight compartments, making it difficult or impossible to isolate the leaks. I’m trying to imagine an RPG capable of doing that, and I just don’t see it.
As well, many tankers have double-hulls: one inside the other. The RPG might hole the outer hull, but the inner hull is probably going to stay intact.
Even so, an RPG would make an untidy hole, and I imagine it would cost a fortune to get it patched up and sea-worthy again.
If it’s an oil tanker, those are even more buoyant because oil floats on water, making an tanker full of oil extremely difficult to sink.
If I had to guess, all of this surrendering to the Pirates isn’t so much driven by their ability to sink the boat as it is their ability to damage the ship and/or kill or harm the crew, thus requiring claims to their insurance.
Now that's a hell of an idea. You could give prizes for the most killed, etc.
One hell of an rpg. Sure you don’t mean a harpoon or a sunburn?
First the French and now even the Italians have found spines to deal with the pirates. Too bad the US is too busy waving the white flag.
“Hmmm...Remember the unsinkable Titanic?”
The Titanic hit a freakin iceberg. One RPG hit would not sink a large ship. Remember it would have to hit at the waterline. 10 feet above the waterline would not sink the ship.
10 hits 10 feet above the waterline would not sink the ship.
Did you see pictures of the USS Stark. Holy Crap. That had a hole the size of a house in it and it did not sink.
The Titanic had a hole about 200 feet long below the waterline and it took about 2 hours to sink.
Shiploads of explosives would be required or torpedos.
I didn’t see it in the link but the female anchor on FOX this morning said it was a Israeli security team(civilian?). Can anyone confirm?
I would hope that a single gut-shot survivor from each boat could make it back to home port to tell the tale.
they ( the pirates ) were fired on and turn and ran, hmm, that works
RCCL does that but its a secret
Phalanx 20mm gun. Accept no substitutes.
“One hell of an rpg. Sure you dont mean a harpoon or a sunburn?”
Apparently I stand corrected on the amount of damage an RPG can cause a ship. But that then begs the question of why the ships are not armed (and yes I know there are port restrictions).
Hmmm .... Your business model has great potential:
(IsraelNN.com) ..... Israeli Security Guards Thwarted Somalian Pirates from Takeover ..... The head of Msc Cruises, Domenico Pellegrino, said that the Italian cruise line hired the Israelis because they were the best trained. Cruise line security work is a popular job for Israelis who are released from their mandatory military stint.
LOL! Gotta love the Italians. Hopefully Beretta will sell them a few nice guns to insure they do not mess with Italian ships.
Probably one of the few sattes along with the Germans and Austrians who may actually end up standing up to IslamoFacism’s takeover of Western Europe helped by the Poles just like 1683 AD.
Well at least the Italians and French do not elect Muslims to run their country.
Any word as to how dead the pirates are?
Novel concept. Shooting back that is.
As for taking captured pirates somewhere for trial. I would assume at least some of these incidents are in international waters. No need for live prisoners. No need for prisoners. Oops, they all fell overboard.
Putting well trained, well armed guards on each ship that
goes near Somalia is a lot cheaper than paying a huge ransom.