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Italian Cruise Ship Fires on Somali Pirates
FOX/AP ^ | Apr. 26, 2009

Posted on 04/26/2009 4:09:08 AM PDT by nuconvert

ROME — An Italian cruise ship with 1,500 people on board fended off a pirate attack far off the coast of Somalia when its Israeli private security forces exchanged fire with the bandits and drove them away, the commander said Sunday.

Cmdr. Ciro Pinto told Italian state radio that six men in a small white boat approached the Msc Melody and opened fire Saturday night, but retreated after the Israeli security officers aboard the cruise ship returned fire.

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KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; cruiseship; italy; mscmelody; pirates; rkba; somalipirates
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1 posted on 04/26/2009 4:09:08 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Good.


2 posted on 04/26/2009 4:11:19 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: nuconvert

“Never Again”.


3 posted on 04/26/2009 4:14:44 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Got Tea?)
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To: nuconvert

Citizens disarmed agenda maximally reduced: a few shots in the air were enough to prevent the largest vessel eccer to be captured by pirates in History.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 4:14:58 AM PDT by VlPu
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To: nuconvert

More proof that guns are the answer.


5 posted on 04/26/2009 4:21:56 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: nuconvert

6 posted on 04/26/2009 4:30:19 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Awesome squirrel gun!@


7 posted on 04/26/2009 4:32:51 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: nuconvert

See, this is why the world hates Israel. I private firm, hired by a private shipping company, deals with the problem with absolutely no UN help. Problem solved, but the control freaks have no opportunity to further their grip on everyone else’s lives- so this approach won’t meet the approval of the powers that be.


8 posted on 04/26/2009 4:33:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a feather bed. -Jefferson)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I want one of those! I fired one at training in the Navy (I was an FT-G). Woo hoo!


9 posted on 04/26/2009 4:34:49 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yep!


10 posted on 04/26/2009 4:36:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
BTW, that was "SMALL ARMS" training...
11 posted on 04/26/2009 4:36:57 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: pnh102

Somali pirates, champions of end times reductionism

It begins with the fact that they live in one of the areas of the world where the "empty shelves" was first reached,

It continues with the fact that they maximally reduced the War on Terror Hoax. (1)

It ends with the fact that they maximally reduced the "Citizens Disarmed is base for security" agenda.

Notes

(1) April 8: Somali pirates seize sixth ship within one week. This time taking 20 american hostages.
What does this have to do with "North Korean ICBM launch exposes ABM Hoax - End Times Reductionism overflying Japan", a few days earlier?
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=246215

12 posted on 04/26/2009 4:37:29 AM PDT by VlPu
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To: pnh102
More proof that guns are the answer.

Yep, trouble is a lot of countries won't allow vessels into port with firearms on-board. The simple solution would be to come up with something akin to a paintball gun on steriods that shoots ball bearings with compressed air. Ships usually have huge air compressors, so it wouldn't be much of a leap to have a couple of non-firearm deck weapons on board. Many moons ago I used to have a BB machine gun that fired around 100 rpm using compressed air. I don't see why this type weapon couldn't be scaled up for these ships.....

13 posted on 04/26/2009 4:40:06 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Thermalseeker

They need to kill these pirates to discourage others and attack & sink the motherships so they can’t get offshore very far.


14 posted on 04/26/2009 4:45:22 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Thermalseeker

Instead of Rube Goldbergish devices to defy the intent while obeying the letter of the maritime regulations it would be much better to change the stupid regs !


15 posted on 04/26/2009 4:47:38 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: nuconvert

That will make a good entry in the NRA citizens defending column.
I knew pirates would be cowards when faced with powder not hoses.


16 posted on 04/26/2009 4:57:46 AM PDT by omega4179 (Damn the world apology tour!)
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To: Thermalseeker

No, the solution is be be heavily armed, and have those arms stored on a small “battle boat” that remains offshore while the ship is in port.


17 posted on 04/26/2009 5:01:16 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

Naw, the way it used to be was for the purser to keep the guns locked up until needed (such as a pending pirate attack), then every sailor on board would be issued his firearm. Crybaby anti-gun liberals are the reason they changed the rules.


18 posted on 04/26/2009 5:06:06 AM PDT by perchprism
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To: perchprism

Right, but my way fits the laws right now, and can be done right now by converting a lifeboat or such. :)


19 posted on 04/26/2009 5:08:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: hoosierham
Instead of Rube Goldbergish devices to defy the intent while obeying the letter of the maritime regulations it would be much better to change the stupid regs !

Better yes, but near impossible to get a hundred or so countries to change their laws in a reasonable time frame. What I proposed would certainly skirt the regs, but it would be much cheaper and faster than waiting for hundreds of bureaucrats to actually do something meaningful with their regulations. Necessity is the mother of invention and all....and Rube Goldberg would be proud!

20 posted on 04/26/2009 5:09:29 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: nuconvert

“and attack & sink the motherships so they can’t get offshore very far.” ...................... One Predator in the area should be able to take care of that, no?


21 posted on 04/26/2009 5:11:31 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (tagline under renovation, will return soon.)
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To: bill1952
No, the solution is be be heavily armed, and have those arms stored on a small “battle boat” that remains offshore while the ship is in port.

The pirates would just wait until the ship is unarmed, then attack. Nothing to stop the pirates from attacking the "battle boat" either. If the pirates were to capture the proposed battle boat, they would gain arms they currently don't have, too.

22 posted on 04/26/2009 5:12:48 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: nuconvert
Pinto said the pirates fired with automatic weapons, slightly damaging the liner, and tried to put a ladder on board.

How far is it from the lowest deck to the water?

23 posted on 04/26/2009 5:13:02 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: nuconvert
Well NO SHIITE.

THIS, is EXACTLY what SHOULD be happening every time these savages attack.

Kill 'em all (send a LOUD & CLEAR message that the civilized world will NOT put up with this piracy), let God (or allah) sort it out.

24 posted on 04/26/2009 5:16:12 AM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: nuconvert
They need to kill these pirates to discourage others...

Exactly. Cut a few pirates in half with with high powered, air driven ball bearing guns, film it and distribute the video in the ports. Either that, or gather the remains and fly over the port in a C-130 and dump whatever is left on their shores as a warning.

...attack & sink the motherships so they can’t get offshore very far.

Surprised that hasn't happened yet.....

25 posted on 04/26/2009 5:17:24 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: WVKayaker

Hope he has his concealed permit for that baby.


26 posted on 04/26/2009 5:21:39 AM PDT by chiller (almost speechless)
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To: nuconvert

Those Israelis really know how to deal with terrorists.

We need to take lessons from them.


27 posted on 04/26/2009 5:22:47 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bill1952
No, the solution is be be heavily armed, and have those arms stored on a small “battle boat” that remains offshore while the ship is in port.

That's called a convoy and at that point you might as well be back to large ones since it's a more efficient use of said "battle boat." And navies have the best ones of those. It's not a self-sufficiency answer to cast in the face of control-freak leftists.

28 posted on 04/26/2009 5:23:12 AM PDT by Styria
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“and attack & sink the motherships so they can’t get offshore very far.”
“One Predator in the area should be able to take care of that, no?”

I was thinking they’d make good targets for sub exercises. Sinking a few with subs should discourage others from wandering into international waters


29 posted on 04/26/2009 5:24:17 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Beautiful. What is that gun called? Caliber?


30 posted on 04/26/2009 5:25:50 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

That’ll git er’ done!


31 posted on 04/26/2009 5:28:26 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: nuconvert

I was thinking they’d make good targets for sub exercises. Sinking a few with subs should discourage others from wandering into international waters


a torpedo against a fishing boat? *lol* sounds a little bit like overkill. i guess some well placed cal 50 rounds would do the job just fine (and save a lot of tax money ;-)


32 posted on 04/26/2009 5:29:37 AM PDT by Jonny foreigner
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

So where is HE getting ammo? I can’t find any, let alone afford it.


33 posted on 04/26/2009 5:30:32 AM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: Bringbackthedraft
“and attack & sink the motherships so they can’t get offshore very far.” ...................... One Predator in the area should be able to take care of that, no?

I believe the Somalis are using recently captured ships complete with hostages on board as "mother ships", care to rethink your answer? They may be dirt poor, they aren't completely stupid.

Regards,
GtG

34 posted on 04/26/2009 5:38:52 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: metmom
Those Israelis really know how to deal with terrorists.

They really do. I did a telecom project in Tel Aviv back in the mid 1990's. At that time there were a slew of bus bombings going on. The Israelis were very careful to leave the carnage for folks to see for a few days to insure support for whatever measures they undertook as retaliation. I was there for a little over three months and witnessed it.

35 posted on 04/26/2009 5:39:57 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Victor
Twin M2 (.50 cal)

These have been standard equipment on United States Navy (and Coast Guard) ships since shortly after World War I.

Thank you, John Moses Browning.

36 posted on 04/26/2009 5:46:26 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: nuconvert

GOOD! Blow the Pirates into a Million Bits! These aren’t Pirates, they are stinkin Terrorists and Extortionists! and Nobody wants to appear “Racists” for pointing out wht these Slimeballs really are! BLOW somemore outa the waters and they will disappear like the cowardly Rats they really are!:-)


37 posted on 04/26/2009 5:47:06 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Spectacular Pirate RAT EXTERMINATOR!


38 posted on 04/26/2009 5:49:50 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: nuconvert
They need to kill these pirates

Bingo
Driving them off merely means different ship is going to be attacked.

When they stop coming home the rest of the pirates will have second thoughts.

39 posted on 04/26/2009 5:50:25 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: nuconvert

Israeli security officers are bad ass.


40 posted on 04/26/2009 5:51:15 AM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: nuconvert

Good for the Italians and Israelis. Meet piracy with force.


41 posted on 04/26/2009 5:51:32 AM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Love that picture but under Obama’s command it looks like a crime scene.


42 posted on 04/26/2009 5:52:40 AM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: ovrtaxt

ZERO HUSSEIN is wreathing on the floor in utter pain that someone would dare shoot at some of his beloved Kinsmen simply because they are attacking and terrifying Civilized Human beings in order to extort huge sums of blood money:-(


43 posted on 04/26/2009 5:52:46 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: bill1952

Sounds like a good idea.

I shake my head every time this “non-news” issue hits the wires. I am disgusted how “pussified” our country has become. This pirate issue is akin to a fly in the kitchen. Swat the damn thing and be done with it!

MFO


44 posted on 04/26/2009 5:55:58 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: reg45; Victor

That setup would “discourage” any pirate. Actually, it would dismember any pirate.


45 posted on 04/26/2009 5:57:42 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Thermalseeker

Nice Negative Thinking! What do You suggest? Setting up a Toll System where each ship daring to get within several hundred miles of Somalia pay a Toll to the Pirate’s Union for Safe Passage?? Zero Hussein will LOVE that idea!


46 posted on 04/26/2009 5:59:48 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Ocean passage credits


47 posted on 04/26/2009 6:00:43 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: True Republican Patriot
Nice Negative Thinking! What do You suggest? Setting up a Toll System where each ship daring to get within several hundred miles of Somalia pay a Toll to the Pirate’s Union for Safe Passage?? Zero Hussein will LOVE that idea!

Who's post are you responding to? I suggested a non-firearm, air powered ball bearing gun mounted on the cargo ships to eliminate attacking pirates and still allow the ships to enter port under current maritime law. The only "toll" paid would be with pirate lives.

Where do you get this notion that I suggested some sort of toll system?

48 posted on 04/26/2009 6:05:09 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Government is not the solution to the problem. Government IS the problem - Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: nuconvert

So, having guns on a ship does keep pirates away. Whadya know.


49 posted on 04/26/2009 6:09:51 AM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: reg45

Thanks!! Do they fire sequentially or in tandem?


50 posted on 04/26/2009 6:12:08 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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