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Romney to call N.H. home? [speculation that Romney will run again in '12] [BARF]
The Boston Globe - Political Intelligence ^ | 2009-05-07 | Foon Rhee

Posted on 05/07/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Could it be the latest sign that Mitt Romney is preparing to run for president again?

Hotline is reporting that Romney is making moves to establish his legal residency in New Hampshire -- site of the first-in-the-nation primary.

The former Massachusetts governor is selling homes in Belmont, Mass., and in Utah, and plans to spend time at his summer home on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee in the Granite State, notes Hotline, the political blog of the National Journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; gop; gopsellout; gopspoiler; hillarycare; mcromney; mittromney; mythromney; rino; romney; romneycare; romneytruthfile; slickwillard
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1 posted on 05/07/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Obsessed with Romney?


2 posted on 05/07/2009 1:49:18 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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3 posted on 05/07/2009 1:50:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
Having the first GOP primary in flamingly liberal state like NH is part of the problem. The first primary needs to be moved to a real state instead.
4 posted on 05/07/2009 1:52:24 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rabscuttle385

If this is true, it doesn’t sound unwise on his part.

Well maybe a little because if he’s from New Hampshire then winning the primary there will be taken less seriously by the press.


5 posted on 05/07/2009 1:52:51 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: rabscuttle385

Now, if he would just follow Specter’s lead on party choice, I would be happy to see him run in 2012.


6 posted on 05/07/2009 1:53:18 PM PDT by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This guy is just a rootless opportunist in every way, no home, no beliefs, not even a party, he goes wherever he sees an opportunity to promote himself for power.


7 posted on 05/07/2009 1:55:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385; Leisler; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; EternalVigilance; Reagan Man; Elsie; ...

FACTOID OF THE DAY:

As Gov of Massachusetts, Election2008-Spoiler Mitt "Lying Myth" Romney
actually raised taxes on New Hampshire residents.

Now how Romney is that?

8 posted on 05/07/2009 1:57:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: rabscuttle385

Something is wrong with people who won’t put down roots!


9 posted on 05/07/2009 1:59:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy

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10 posted on 05/07/2009 1:59:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: ansel12
Worse, Romney is fake who stabs GOP contenders like the
demented sore loser he is.

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.

(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

11 posted on 05/07/2009 2:01:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: rabscuttle385

Didn’t he buy a house in CA too, fueling speculation he was going for Governor?


12 posted on 05/07/2009 2:01:48 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Diogenesis

This chart doesn’t prove anything other than that the residents of NH working in MA made more money over the period from 2002 to 2006. My earnings also increased in this period so the taxes I paid also increased.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 2:02:39 PM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: rabscuttle385

He should move to Michigan and run for Governor there.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 2:03:07 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: pnh102
Whatever your opinion of Romney, the problem with the primary system is far too much weight on Iowa and New Hampshire. McCain practically lived in New Hampshire. Huckabee won Iowa by playing the religious bigotry card. Romney and Fred Thompson split the votes of economic conservatives. At this juncture, I see Sarah Palin as the only one who could potentially unite all three factions (social, economic and national defense conservatives).

Genuine Catholics (as opposed to CINOs) and Mormons are too big a part of the conservative base to stomach a bigot like Huckabee.

A significant minority of Evangelicals who can't put their hatred of these two groups behind their love of country are too big of part of the conservative base to elect anyone with the "wrong" religion. This means no Romney, Jindal or Eric Cantor, no matter how capable they might be (though a VP slot could be acceptable).

There may be others, but at this moment, Sarah is the only one I think capable of bridging that gap.

Who know? After enough years in exile, some conservatives will be willing to give up their insistence on a religious test. But not at this point in time.

15 posted on 05/07/2009 2:06:02 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s all we need is a repeat of 2008.

McCain loses in 2000, so it’s “his turn” to run in 2008.

Romney loses in 2008, so it’s his turn to run in 2012.

Enough of these establishment losers.


16 posted on 05/07/2009 2:06:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is a good looking guy who would probably do well based on that alone. And he’d probably get a good deal of votes from the moderates.

But really, why are some people fighting for him NOW? This is the same point I’ve been making in other threads, during the 08 primary and more recently.

During the PRIMARY, we should not only be concerned with “electability” but also ‘CONSERVATISM”.

We can do better, with Palin in the wings and more importantly 4 more YEARS to find a better candidate than Mitt. I mean, he sounds like a nice guy, I’m pretty sure he is, but sheesh, I don’t know why a vocal minority is allowed to promote him NOW, on FR.

Every claim of his conservatism I have seen shot down on FR, with reason and logic. Unless a Romney lover can convince me otherwise, and soon, I think it’s time to drop this guy like a hot potato.


17 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:37 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: pnh102
Having the first GOP primary in flamingly liberal state like NH is part of the problem.
The first primary needs to be moved to a real state instead.


I'd like it very much if all the primaries were held on the same day.
I'd also like to do away with those gotta be first caucuses.
18 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:56 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: rabscuttle385

Hey look, another MA liberal locust moving to NH to finish consuming all the busines and freedom that used to flourush there.


19 posted on 05/07/2009 2:09:57 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Edit35
Obsessed with Romney?

Actually...obsessed with ridding the GOP of liberals like Romney, as well as his sycophantic followers.

20 posted on 05/07/2009 2:10:58 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: novemberslady

“I’d like it very much if all the primaries were held on the same day.”

All that would do would make the candidate with the most name recognition win and give even more power to the national media to pick our candidate.

No thanks.


21 posted on 05/07/2009 2:11:14 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: rabscuttle385
plans to spend time at his summer home on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee. . . .

Baby steps?

22 posted on 05/07/2009 2:11:18 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (What About Mitt?)
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To: pnh102

It should be Oklahoma the only total Red State in the last election. :) Plus we send one of the most Conservative delegations to Congress including Senators Inhofe and Coburn. Do believe we have earned the right as Conservatives to be the first in the Nation.


23 posted on 05/07/2009 2:12:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
All that would do would make the candidate with the most name recognition win and give even more power to the national media to pick our candidate.

Like that's not already happening...
24 posted on 05/07/2009 2:13:29 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: rabscuttle385
I thought he was a rootless citizen of, um, Michigan when he walked with MLK, sort of. Or offering the first ever 20 billion dollar pre Bush/Obama bailout? Or was it Utah? or Massachusetts, or California and and New Hampshire. That is when he wasn't a Reagan guy, before he became Mr. Conservative after his life long hunting hunter, er, rabbits on some farm one summer...

Whatever.


25 posted on 05/07/2009 2:13:32 PM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney the RINO goes to New Hampshire!

He will manipulate the system every way he can.
He’ll say anything.
He’ll turn a blind eye to fraud (fake police).
He’ll change any position.
He’ll try any dirty trick.
He’ll spread money like manure.
He’ll run as a Transgendered Hispanic Female, if it would get him elected.

And if he wins a primary, he will lose the general election
for us again.

He is exactly what is wrong with the Party.


26 posted on 05/07/2009 2:13:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: Edit35; rabscuttle385
Obsessed with Romney?

As long as Romney is running and that is always, I want to keep seeing these articles exposing him for the liberal that he is.

27 posted on 05/07/2009 2:14:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: novemberslady

It would be even worse under your scenario. The grass roots would have NO power.


28 posted on 05/07/2009 2:15:06 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think it’s time to do things differently.


29 posted on 05/07/2009 2:19:00 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Vigilanteman
"Romney and Fred Thompson split the votes of economic conservatives"

Kool-Aid Award.

New Hampshire's TV and news market is Boston. They well knew who they were not going to vote for, Mitt.

30 posted on 05/07/2009 2:19:40 PM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Spoiler Romney threw Election2008, but that was not enuf for him.
One might call Romney a "donkey's ass", but that would be unfair to donkeys.


31 posted on 05/07/2009 2:20:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Vigilanteman
A significant minority of Evangelicals who can't put their hatred of these two groups behind their love of country are too big of part of the conservative base to elect anyone with the "wrong" religion. This means no Romney, Jindal or Eric Cantor, no matter how capable they might be (though a VP slot could be acceptable).

Your religious hatred and bigotry has led you to post an inaccurate claim, evangelicals love Bobby Jindal and they will vote for him in droves, although the Catholics love Obama I think that they would vote for Jindal also but probably not in as high of percentages as Evangelicals

Here is how the conservative vote shakes out.

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32 posted on 05/07/2009 2:20:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385
It's just a business move. Mitt will save enough in State income taxes to pay for the next campaign (sarc)
33 posted on 05/07/2009 2:22:25 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: FourtySeven

I agree it is too early to think about 2012....the scenery will be shifting a lot between now & then. I even think there is a good chance to get a 3rd party in place by 2010 & 1/2. The ‘All American Party’.


34 posted on 05/07/2009 2:23:33 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Graybeard58; Edit35
As long as Romney is running and that is always, I want to keep seeing these articles exposing him for the liberal that he is.

He doesn't win (except that once) and he can't get reelected, but this year is his 16th anniversary of running for office, we still don't know what he wants but he is a perennial candidate and not just for any office, he wants to be President.

35 posted on 05/07/2009 2:27:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Put all your energy into Jindal and see how that goes for you. It would be funny if Jindal becomes Mormon and then what would you do?


36 posted on 05/07/2009 2:27:22 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: ansel12

Also, PEW is like snopes or factcheck. They are the same group who claim there are only 12 million illegals in this country.


37 posted on 05/07/2009 2:28:50 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Vigilanteman
After enough years in exile, some conservatives will be willing to give up their insistence on a religious test.

Romney's problem is that some conservatives are not willing to give up their insistence on a conservatism test.

38 posted on 05/07/2009 2:29:44 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: freeplancer

Mormon is about all you do isn’t it. You are an odd egg, that trolls threads trying to get into Mormon fights.

Weird stuff.


39 posted on 05/07/2009 2:30:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Vigilanteman

A significant minority of Evangelicals who can’t put their hatred of these two groups behind their love of country are too big of part of the conservative base to elect anyone with the “wrong” religion.
_______________________________________________

Golly things must have changed over the years...

I can remember during the Democrat conventiobn in 1992 when Clinton was nominated...

We all sttod aoutside the PO building, arms around each other or holding hands...

singing praise songs to our Lord Jesus Christ, and rallying against abortion together...

Catholics and Protestants together...

I didnt hear one ugly word...

Not then nor at the rally at the Catholic Church one night...

Was that Mitt Romney and his Dad I saw standing with us against abortion ???

As for Jindal and Cantor...

You listed them with Romney...

Do you consider them liberals also ???

One is a Catholic...

One is a Jew...

I didbnt hear you say you planned to vote for them...

You said “a bigot like Huckabee.”

Then you claim that “some conservatives will be willing to give up their insistence on a religious test.”

I didnt see many conservatives being bigoted against Huckabee or Romney...

I did see the mormons in Utah voting 90% for Romney..

But thats OK cause the mormons also voted for Obama in Salt Lake County

and helped elect the first mormon president...

In fact more of the mormons in Utah voted for Obama than we Christians did in TN...

Nope they aint bigots in Utah

;)


40 posted on 05/07/2009 2:35:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DBrow

Didn’t he buy a house in CA too, fueling speculation he was going for Governor?
________________________________________

Yeppers Romney was settled in there...

But who wants to be KingRat went the ship is sinking ???

Analyst: California may need to borrow $20 billion next year

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2246406/posts


41 posted on 05/07/2009 2:43:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ansel12
Read my post and know what you are talking about before you go flying off the handle. Not all Evangelicals are religious bigots and I never claimed they were. Quite a few have friends who are Mormons, Catholics and Jews. Were it not so, you wouldn't see Jindal carrying the Evangelical areas of northwest Louisania. You wouldn't see a Mormon like Ernest Istook being elected congressman in central Oklahoma and you certainly wouldn't see a Jew like Eric Cantor carrying an Evangelical district in the Richmond suburbs.

I don't generalize about Evangelicals. My comments were aimed specifically about a vocal subgroup within that broad group who can be shepherded by a well-spoken religious bigot like Mike Huckabee.

Fred Thompson was a logical alternative to Mitt Romney and had Huckabee not played the religious bigot card in Iowa, Fred's campaign might have had a chance to get off the ground because it would have slowed what turned into a stampede for McCain.

Your chart, by the way, throws Mormons into a rather unnatural grouping, perhaps because their numbers are so small. Juding by the data in Mormon heavy counties in Utah and Idaho, they went for McCain by a bigger margin than "Weekly Attending White Evangelical Protestants". So I don't see them as a group which conservatives should be gleefully kicking to the curb as some on this forum delight to do.

42 posted on 05/07/2009 2:48:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why doesn’t Mitt just come out of closet and confirm what we all know anyway—he’s SO gay!


43 posted on 05/07/2009 2:50:43 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Your analysis is SPOT on.

Carpetbagger Romney needs a state in the black to wreck because he is a terrible leader (economically speaking).

So with California in the red, the Spoiler-Romney had to move again.

(**) -- Romney was a poor Governor. Romney got a "C" rating from CATO. And that was BEFORE
Romney's Socialized medicine and coverup of the BIGdig kicked in.

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]

44 posted on 05/07/2009 2:51:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: novemberslady

“I think it’s time to do things differently.”

Ah, a “hope” and “change” person.


45 posted on 05/07/2009 2:52:14 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Vigilanteman

So I don’t see them as a group which conservatives should be gleefully kicking to the curb as some on this forum delight to do.
____________________________________

Thanks for your concern...

But we conservatives dont let the Romney and his MittWitts “kick us to the curb”


46 posted on 05/07/2009 2:52:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe he’ll run, but just maybe he doesn’t want to pay the onerous taxes Deval “Cadillac” Patrick and the state legislature have jacked up...and will likely continue to jack up until the only people remaining in Massghanistan are the welfare recipients.


47 posted on 05/07/2009 2:53:13 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Tennessee Nana

MittWitts. How clever. Keep alienating those who agree with you on, say, 90% of the issues, including Obama’s march toward a socialist state, and see how that works out for you.


48 posted on 05/07/2009 2:54:53 PM PDT by Capt. Jake
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To: Vigilanteman

Sounds the same to me, evangelicals, bigots, Huckabee etc. You sound like a bigot to me that has an anger towards Christians.

It is nice that you don’t claim that all Christians and Evangelicals are “religious bigots”.


49 posted on 05/07/2009 2:56:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
This guy is just a rootless opportunist in every way, no home, no beliefs, not even a party, he goes wherever he sees an opportunity to promote himself for power.

What you said.

But hey: if you don't like Mitt Romney's views on something, wait a day. I assure you he'll be happy to change his views, if only you'll vote for him.

And you have to admit: Mittens does have awesome hair.

50 posted on 05/07/2009 3:00:05 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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