Skip to comments.Chris Matthews Portrays GOP as Anti-Science (Challenges Mike Pence about Evolution & Climate Change)
Posted on 05/07/2009 8:00:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Chris Matthews apparently thinks the GOP is just one big bag of crazy.
MSNBC's "Hardball" host challenged Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana) on the Republican Party's commitment to addressing climate change during the May 5 broadcast. Matthews claimed to Pence that the GOP is not passionate about environmentalism because, "There are people that really are against science in your party who really do question not just the science behind the climate change but the science behind evolutionary fact, that we were taught - you and I - in our biology books. They don't accept the scientific method. They believe in belief itself."
Matthews prefaced his argument with, "There are people on your side of the argument who believe that all the prehistoric bones we've discovered in this world, all the dinosaur bones and all that stuff was somehow planted there by liberal scientists to make the case against the Bible."
Pence called Matthews' argument "an interesting straw man" and a "caricature."
Matthews then confronted Pence about evolution, "I think you believe in evolution but you're afraid to say so because your conservative constituency might find that offensive." Matthews continued harping on Pence's belief that "God created the heavens and the Earth, the seas and all that is in them" by saying, "you don't believe that, you don't, you don't take a fundamentalist view of, of the seven days of creation do you?"
Later Matthews offered unnamed "polls that show that a huge percentage of the American people don't believe in evolution ... don't believe in climate change" as proof that the GOP is not "passionately committed to science or to fighting global warming or to dealing with the scientific facts we live with."
And what would a "Hardball" broadcast be without the obligatory swipes at well-known conservatives? Matthew told Pence, "The troubled is that your, your Rush-, your Mt. Rushmore now includes Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and these characters that don't share either your intellect or your honesty."
Wednesday's edition of "Hardball" featured another discussion of evolution, this time with former Republican presidential hopeful and representative Tom Tancredo. Matthews repeated his characterization of the Republican party as anti-science:
Let me talk to you about what I think are the extremes on this position. One extreme would be there is no God, it`s all sort of random, we all ended up here, we don`t even know why we`re here. Right? That would be a random totally secular view of everything. I don`t think you or I are at that end.
The other end would be, "It's like it's written down in the Bible, we don't have to figure out science, it's all there." And if you really get into the Bible and you're totally literal about it -- I don't want to knock anybody's belief -- you get to the point of having to deny all the fossils out there because they all pre-dated 4,000 years of written history in the Bible, back to Adam and Eve, through the prophets all the way back. And then you have -- then you get into that crazy idea, Well, there's a bunch of liberals that went around and buried all these bones in the ground to make it look like there was ancient history.
Matthews followed up this argument by saying, "Well, I don't think most people believe that. I think except the fact there were dinosaurs that were around here millions of years ago. It wasn't covered in the Bible, et cetera, et cetera."
So if Matthews doesn't think most people believe the ideas he put forth, why bring it up at all?
Right. Because it makes the GOP look crazy.
Colleen Raezler is a research assistant at the Culture and Media Institute
“...to tie him to YEC and Fundamentalism...”
There’s nothing wrong with either of them!!..
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Who watches MSNBC anyway?
This man and his church believe you cant have science without God.
Monsignor Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître (July 17, 1894 June 20, 1966) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, honorary prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic University of Leuven. He sometimes used the title Abbé or Monseigneur.
Lemaître proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his hypothesis of the primeval atom.
It's not entirely implausible that the MSNBC hosts are closely related to
chimpanzees. Or that they would obsess on the hysteria of Darwinism, evolution,
and liberal metrosexual paranoid fears about mythical backwoods fundamentalists
interfering with their nocturnal "science" experiments... You just wonder how often this is a problem for him in Montgomery County. Do they wander in from
Mt. Airy and accost him in White Flint, demanding to renounce his infatuation
with prehistoric monkey bones and the imaginary big hairy rural swamp monsters
of his leg-thrilling fantasies?
Considering that a large faction of the liberal electorate and Obama's supporters
think that pregnancy can be prevented by copulating while standing up or
douching with Coca-Cola afterwards, this anti-science protest seems a little off just a tad.Let's get the Dems up to speed on basic science before casting stones here.
Did anyone see the South Park episode where religion is eliminated and in the future atheists say things like “Science damn it” and “Oh my science.”
Sometimes those cats are really ahead of the game.
Chrissie started getting that tiongli8ng feeling up his leg again..
Well, that’s what happens when you have pinheads who don’t know anything about “science”, who then proceed to confuse “evolution” and “science”.
Pris Mouthspews is a tingle leg idiot.
To say nothing of that Austrian monk, Gregor Mendel.
Mr. Mathews, have you made any sort of an in depth study of the theory of evolution, and the problems associated with it?
Are you aware of the studies which were carried out over a multi-decades period in the last century involving fruit flies and how miserably evolution failed that test? Are you aware that several top scientists publicly renounced evolution on account of those tests?
Are you aware of the immense problem which the fossil record presented for classical Darwinian gradualism and of the many statements which scientists have made describing evolution as incompatible with the fossil record?
Are you aware that Steve Gould and Nyles Eldredge tried to devise a new version of evolution, called 'punctuated equilibria' to patch up that problem, but that punctuated equilibria has problems just as big and is in fact a pure pseudoscience since it involves a claim of validation by lack of evidence instead of by evidence?
Are you aware of the Haldane dilemma and the gigantic time periods, greater than the assumed age of the universe in fact, whichevolution would take to create our present biosphere even if that were possible, which in actual fact it is not?
Are you aware that scientists and researchers are now finding blood, blood vessels, and other kinds of soft tissue inside dinosaur bones and of what that does to the time scales which evolution requires?
Mr. Mathews, you asked me if I believe in evolution; Do I look like an idiot to you? In actual fact only idiots believe in or defend evolution in today's world,people with brains and talent gave up on it decades ago.
Mr. Mathews, is there some reason why you didn't check any of this out before asking your arrogant question which seeks to frame Republicans as ignorant bible thumpers?
Matthews is hardly the man to be speaking of intellect,or honesty.
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Crissy Matthews and Barbara Walters are one in the same person
[[People are being tested. One should not be embarrassed by the word of God. If you are, then have failed the test as a servant of God]]
Dangit- then I want a do over
Let me get this straight. The only people that can have Science are Democrats, atheists, and blind followers of Evolution? I call your bluff Mr. Hardball. I call your bluff. Science is not yours, nor is it the liberals, nor is it the sheeple’s who follow the Evolutionists. Science is about finding the truth using tools of measurement and observations, it is not about: worshiping Darwin, finding alternatives to God and hoping, or your party of baby killers claiming it as their own and smearing its integrity across miles of cow dung.