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Obama U-turn on abuse photos
BBC ^ | 16:46 GMT, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 | staff

Posted on 05/13/2009 10:05:44 AM PDT by gandalftb

US President Barack Obama has changed his mind and will now attempt to block the publication of photographs showing the abuse of prisoners by US soldiers.

The US government had previously said it would not fight a court ruling ordering the release of the pictures.

Mr Obama now believes the release of the photos would make the job of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan more difficult, White House officials said.

The pictures were due to be released by 28 May, according to the court ruling.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; agenda; agitprop; bho44; bhodod; obamabreakspromises; obamaflipflops; photos; torture
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To: gandalftb
Sanity has nothing to do with it, it's all about COA (Covering Obama's A**).

I just took a quick peek over at the HuffHo, and the lemming pinko-commie-lib-dems are engorged with the "wisdom" of their sAVIOR.

However the most telling comments posted over there is that they feel releasing these pictures would not serve any purpose at this point.

They are of course dead on, since the purpose of releasing the Abu Grab pics was to undermine President Bush.

51 posted on 05/13/2009 10:43:48 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic one Post at a Time)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Just saw this posted at DU:

“If it’s true that they’re reversing position, we find that wholly unacceptable,” ACLU attorney Jameel Jaffer told POLITICO. “It’s inconsistent with the commitment they’ve made to the court and its inconsistent with the promise of transparency that they’ve repeated many times both before the election and since.”

Jaffer said the ACLU had not been officially informed of the government’s change in stance, which he earlier called an effort to “renege” on the administration’s prior promise.

Politico.com

I am enjoying watching their heads explode at DU. F-bombs abound! That damned evil Cheney must be blackmailing Obama!

52 posted on 05/13/2009 10:48:35 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Reagan Man

Could it be that the whole issue with San Fran Nan and her waterboarding lies is about to blow up? The Dems have collectively lost whatever little credibility they had. I’m starting to think that he’s decided to stop this entire trainwreck. Their Bush Derangement Syndrome is really starting to hurt them big time. That and the Pakistan matter. Those Talis are getting completely out of control and O-sh!t isn’t helping any. He’s way over his head so he’s decided to stop the release of the “abuse” photos. One less thing to worry about.


53 posted on 05/13/2009 10:50:10 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: gandalftb

54 posted on 05/13/2009 10:57:02 AM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: NMEwithin

seeing as I never venture over there onto that cesspit of dummy brain dead sheep could you let us know what they are saying please


55 posted on 05/13/2009 11:01:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: tet68

correct not only that though but bozo has done his job as now he lets the left but mostly our enemies know there are photo’s out there and that is all he needed

Bringing this up has backfired as now Pelosi, and others are facing the same charges at what they were throwing out

I bet they never wished they brought all this up


56 posted on 05/13/2009 11:03:10 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: gandalftb

I would think this mean the pictures of pretty damn bad.

The British papers have contained allegations of sliced open genitals, forced sodomy in front of female family members and violent forced enemas. If there are pictures of any of that then then it would absolutely cause backlash.

On the other hand, how do you also not prosecute somebody if there are pictures that are so bad we can’t release them?


57 posted on 05/13/2009 11:04:42 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: gandalftb

The DUmmies are going ballistic. This is not the Change they wanted it and they are bashing zer0. How funny!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3874919&mesg_id=3874919


58 posted on 05/13/2009 11:05:04 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: PJammers

correct the Geneva convention says you cannot sow these pictures and so the left says no no no we can but then on the other hand they want the Geneva convention to defend these terrorists

This just shows how dumb and brain dead the left is.


59 posted on 05/13/2009 11:05:04 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Califreak

Perhaps someone hinted darkly about a certain birth certificate?

The CIA


60 posted on 05/13/2009 11:06:03 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: gandalftb

I wonder what his position is on the public airing of photos of babies abused, tortured, and aborted with his cooperation and support?


61 posted on 05/13/2009 11:07:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (As fruit of principled action incrementalism is God's Hand. As strategy, it's the devil's playground)
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To: gandalftb

He will “attempt” to stop the release. That’s like Willie Wonka “attempting” to save the fat boy from falling into the chocolate. “No, please stop” whispered so nobody could hear him.


62 posted on 05/13/2009 11:09:07 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: gandalftb

Wait till tomorrow to be sure he has actually changed his mind.


63 posted on 05/13/2009 11:10:13 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

Yeah, good point. Attempt is correct. I see where you are headed.


64 posted on 05/13/2009 11:10:55 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: gandalftb

Keith Olberman will go ballistic!


65 posted on 05/13/2009 11:10:56 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: manc

What little I could stomach over at Huffington Post seems to be broken into two camps...one faction is completely pissed off at Barry-O and the other half is defending the decision saying it would harm US Troops...the same exact rationale the Bush administration had...they are flip flopping just like Dear Leader is...


66 posted on 05/13/2009 11:17:12 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: gandalftb

I suspect Mr. Obama has reviewed the “torture” photos and realizes that they are not as shocking or disturbing as he would have liked. They will not serve his purpose to release them.


67 posted on 05/13/2009 11:17:20 AM PDT by MaggieAtlanta
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To: gandalftb

Gibbs is on Fox now, going hummina hummina as reporters nibble at his ankles.
Meanwhile DUmmies are having serious allergic reactions to all this, their breaking news thread shows discouragement and some gnashing of teeth at the CHANGE in the Lord 0bama.
Reporters in presser not happy either!


68 posted on 05/13/2009 11:19:47 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

There was an excellent article on NRO about Obama’s decision to release the photos. I think that it was by Andrew McCarthy. He said that Obama was making a purely arbitrary decision to please his far left wing supporters, that there is no court order and no reason to release these picts other than to further damage the US reputation and blame the Bush administration.

I guess that’s the reason that the CIA leaked those memos about the congressional briefings. Then we had the Afghanis stepping up the accusations about the killing of civilians. Obama’s got himself in a real pickle, now.


69 posted on 05/13/2009 11:23:07 AM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: ravingnutter
I am enjoying watching their heads explode at DU. F-bombs abound! That damned evil Cheney must be blackmailing Obama! ________________

It's hilarious isn't it! Photobucket

70 posted on 05/13/2009 11:24:26 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Neighbor of the Beast, borrowing the Beast’s lawnmower, thanks, I’ll look at DU. But everytime I look at them, or Huffington, or Buzzflash, I marvel at how stupid they are not only in their thinking but in how they set the forum and post’s up. FR is by far the best I’ve seen, and no advertising, which really helps.


71 posted on 05/13/2009 11:26:51 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: gandalftb

He knows that Cheney is poised to release his own set of data proving that the techniques have saved many American lives.


72 posted on 05/13/2009 11:27:07 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: manc
So far not a word of thanks to Dick Cheney, so I'll say it.

Thank you Vice-President Cheney!

73 posted on 05/13/2009 11:31:43 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: gandalftb
Poison Photo Drop

Did this article, by Andy McCarthy, influence the Obama flip on this issue?

74 posted on 05/13/2009 11:35:37 AM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: mojitojoe

That damned evil Cheney must be blackmailing Obama!
*******

Maybe they could speculate on the “goods” that they are apparently admitting Cheney has on their “savior”. By the way, what kind of savior can be blackmailed? s/


75 posted on 05/13/2009 11:37:01 AM PDT by Yooper4Life (47% voted against him, and millions stayed home.)
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To: gandalftb
Obama lied, the pictures died...
76 posted on 05/13/2009 11:37:13 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Messiah is another Man's Fuhrer...)
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To: mojitojoe

Perhaps someone hinted darkly about a certain birth certificate? The CIA

Yes, because high-ranking CIA officials might be hauled before the world court.

If they did, they might "find" one of these in a Evidence Locker with Obama's name on it:


77 posted on 05/13/2009 11:37:17 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: gandalftb

They wreak havoc saying one thing and doing another on so many fronts, along with the havok from their new policies.

This is all from Saul Alinsky’s playbook. That, and general incompetence.


78 posted on 05/13/2009 11:53:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (When you're RuPaul posing as the wife of the president, you need all the make-up help you can get.)
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To: gandalftb
Mr Obama now believes the release of the photos would make the job of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan more difficult, White House officials said.

[equals]

Mr Obama now believes pooring gas on yourself and touching a lit match to the fuel could cause bodily harm, White House officials said.

geniuS geenIUS GEEEENIUS!

79 posted on 05/13/2009 11:58:43 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: roses of sharon

“Some of the damage has been done, all in his plan to trash America, its military, our missions in two theaters, and the Bush Administration, ie, all patriots.”

I suspect three elements caused this decision: (1) Polls show he’s going to get slaughtered if he releases them; (2) By technically opposing the release but getting the Court to do his dirty work, he gets political cover from being slaughtered; and/or(3) The pictures aren’t all that bad. He assesses that they do more damage as they are imagined to be than as they really are.


80 posted on 05/13/2009 12:05:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: mojitojoe
Thanks for the post. DU is melting down, never seen so many f-bombs, a new low for them.

O changed his mind, let's hope this one works a little better from now in.

This reverse is related to a few major issues:

Morale at the CIA and our entire military in that a mutiny would ensue as the pics would reveal operators and destroy future ops;

I am advised that many of the pics are extreme and would be on every jihadist site and recruiting poster; many of the pics show foreign nationals (Israeli and Arabic) helping the "questioning" and would destroy the trust we have with coalition partners;

O needs to have this issue go away to save Pelosi and build bridges with Muslims; O is mindful of the long news cycle of Abu Ghraib and realizes these pics would define him and America for months/years;

O's favorite work is re-elect and he loses independents by releasing these pics.

81 posted on 05/13/2009 12:05:42 PM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: gandalftb; All
PEOPLE LISTEN!! Obama is just playing GOOD COP....he WANTS the PICS out....probably had his people ENCOURAGE the Pentagon to say they were going to release them so he could be seen as thew ONE STANDING UP FOR THE MILITARY!!

He has done this on other occassions also....WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

82 posted on 05/13/2009 12:08:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: gandalftb
Sanity reigns.

With Obama I have my suspicions. This could have been his intent from the very beginning. He throws a bone to his Moonbats then pulls it away, or Obama feigns objection while really wanting to release the pictures all for political cover.

83 posted on 05/13/2009 12:08:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: gandalftb
Sanity reigns.

Even severe alcoholics have a sense of clarity for a moment.

84 posted on 05/13/2009 12:10:02 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: gandalftb
Never fear, all you America-haters. The photos will be on the internet within a week. They'll be leaked by your compadres who mole within the Department of Defense, or by the ACLU, or by Obama's shadowy operatives in the White House or by the Huffington Post, or by the NYSlimes, or any combination thereof.

Let our hearts not be elated.....nothing happens without the Obama operatives not knowing 10 steps ahead on every decision it puts out to look good.

Leni

85 posted on 05/13/2009 12:10:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: mojitojoe
The DUmmies over at democraticundergound.com are livid. LMAO! Love it!

Let me guess complete meltdown mode. LoL!

86 posted on 05/13/2009 12:13:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Dahoser

I think it will play out just as you say. Obama knows the press will play dumb and the Pubs won’t dare utter a word. We’ve seen this movie before.


87 posted on 05/13/2009 12:14:11 PM PDT by Hoboken (Let's continue to roll)
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To: gandalftb

Right decision, but it just goes to show the lack of a coherent thought process. He did considerable damage just by saying that he was going to release them.


88 posted on 05/13/2009 12:16:09 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: unixfox

You are exactly right.


89 posted on 05/13/2009 12:19:02 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: gandalftb

So the ACLU sues, Obama’s AG throws the case and the photos are released.......Obama wins the conservatives and the liberals. Even if this isn’t the plan, the very idea that these pictures are sooooooo bad that they can’t be released to the public, certainly makes for good spin. Obama wins.


90 posted on 05/13/2009 12:21:46 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: gandalftb

the homosexual kenyan finally makes a good decision..though I’m sure someone else made the decision for him...no doubt this is an opportunity to make him “look good” to the masses...they know they have a rude awakening next year in the mid term elex...however, wise decision in this one...he knows he’d face a military/cia coup if these were released.


91 posted on 05/13/2009 12:24:26 PM PDT by wheresmycheckbarry?
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To: mojitojoe

They are right about that. 0bama’s reversal is not because he “thought it over” without counsel, or because someone in the FBI or the DOJ convinced him.
It’s because Dick Cheney hit the airwaves and opened whupass on 0bama.
Still waiting for any network, including Fox, to mention it.


92 posted on 05/13/2009 12:37:59 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: Red Steel
With Obama I have my suspicions.

Never trust a Rat and his propaganda machine. Could it be that these pictures don't even exist, or the ones that do are no where near as bad as has been hinted? He has thrown the bone to the moonbats as you say, but by not releasing pictures that don't really exist, maybe he has thrown a bone to us as well?

93 posted on 05/13/2009 12:39:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: gandalftb; All
Sanity reigns.

Sorry, but sanity didn't return. The a**hat knows he is getting trashed over this and is trying to do damage control. That is a good sign because it shows that these leftwing libtards are vulnerable and we have to keep hitting them. Thank Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz for this turn around on the picture policy.

94 posted on 05/13/2009 12:43:38 PM PDT by calex59
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To: NavVet
I think that O is realizing that the office of the Presidency of the United States of America is bigger than he is.

O has been wearing Bush/Cheney like a blanket and maybe he is ready to start governing and stop campaigning to be the head of the biggest leftist/liberal agenda.

Remember that O was trained in anti-government, movement politics and he is finding out that he must go around the corner and represent America first.

Maybe O woke up this morning and figured out that he must now be a statesman and choose between lesser evils.

And perhaps he is realizing that "dancing with the one that brung ya" is suicidal and treasonous on this issue.

95 posted on 05/13/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: gandalftb

Has nothing to do with sanity.
he could care less about our soldiers, it is about the photos not being relevant and showing enough to make republicans look bad.


96 posted on 05/13/2009 12:48:05 PM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"One small isolated incident of sanity."

Yeah, now he made the right call....after first making the wrong call.

He's still the douche bag of the free world in my opinion

97 posted on 05/13/2009 12:50:46 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: nmh

Maybe he knows he is going to lose in federal court, and he wants to go through the pretense of fighting against the release of the photos, so he can appear to be “moderate” and gain support from the military. After the court rules to release the photos again, he can say he tried to suppress them.

In the meantime, they are likely to leak to the media, so again he can pull a Pontius Pilate if that happens. Thus he can work to destroy the USA while avoiding the blame.


98 posted on 05/13/2009 12:52:28 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"One small isolated incident of sanity."

Did you miss this?

"and will now attempt to block"

Words mean something.....

Uh um uh, I attempted to block the uh photos, but, uh, it was out of my control. It's all Bush's fault!

99 posted on 05/13/2009 12:58:28 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: gandalftb

They can’t release the photos because the detainees weren’t abused.

It’s “the big lie” writ large.


100 posted on 05/13/2009 1:01:31 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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