Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Blue collar U.S. males lose more ground
Reuters ^ | 19 May 09 | Ed Stoddard

Posted on 05/18/2009 6:45:32 PM PDT by SkyPilot

DALLAS, May 19 (Reuters) - Rodney Ringler is an unemployed blue collar male without a college degree. He's hardly alone. Men like him have been the main victims of the current recession in the United States.

"I haven't worked since December of 2007, around the time this recession started," Ringler, a 49-year-old computer technician, said as he walked his dog in a Dallas suburb.

He sees little light at the end of the tunnel.

"I've been looking to get into law enforcement because it's a growth area," he said, but had no immediate prospects.

One statistic that stands out in America's recession-stung economy is the unemployment rate for adult men: in April for the second month in a row it surged ahead of the national average to 9.4 percent versus 8.9 percent for all workers. The jobless rate for adult women was 7.1 percent.

The reasons are clear: male-heavy sectors such as construction and manufacturing have been hard hit. But the implications may be dire for the broader economy and hamper the recovery as families that once had male breadwinners struggle.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluecollar; economy; jobless; jobs; men; unemployment
Don't worry male blue collar workers! Women's Studies professors are getting 6% raises! Praise Obama.



1 posted on 05/18/2009 6:45:33 PM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: All

Are you looking for a job?

This thread is updated on a regular basis:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2136635/posts


2 posted on 05/18/2009 6:46:40 PM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
"I've been looking to get into law enforcement because it's a growth area," he said, but had no immediate prospects.

Yeah, it is here, too. 'Cause, you know, pretty soon everyone's gonna be a criminal.

Everywhere is Brazil. /artistic allusion.

3 posted on 05/18/2009 6:52:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
If he's been unemployed for 16 months in the IT field in a major city, either he doesn't have one major certification to speak of, or he's doing things the wrong way. I live an hour outside of Atlanta, and I get at least one or two monthly hits on resumes out there that are as old as Moses. Not that it in any way diminishes my desire to take a flame-thrower to that gaggle of militant, uptight rug-munchers you posted. She-things like that will ultimately get their existential comeuppance, in my view.


4 posted on 05/18/2009 6:56:13 PM PDT by Viking2002 (This tagline for rent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
"Ringler, a 49-year-old computer technician..."

Mmm... Since when is a computer technician position considered "blue collar"? I thought that these were the kinds of jobs those old fashioned factory workers were supposed to be training for once we shipped all of the manufacturing jobs over seas. I guess we all need to start training to be computer engineers. Until of course those jobs also start to be considered "blue collar".

5 posted on 05/18/2009 6:57:02 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

Boy, not a babe in the bunch of them.


6 posted on 05/18/2009 6:58:25 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

“a 49-year-old computer technician”

That’s a blue collar job? Amazing how when I was doing that I had to do it business casual.

If it is blue collar, it’s not our fault he paid for college so he could put all his eggs in one basket. I don’t want to hear anyone like that whining because they ended up screwed.


7 posted on 05/18/2009 7:01:48 PM PDT by dajeeps
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Viking2002

“...and I get at least one or two monthly hits on resumes out there that are as old as Moses.”

You nailed it. Husband is an IT Geek with an alphabet of certifications and he gets head-hunted at least once a month...from a resume that’s 2 years old. (And that’s OLD in IT.)

He’s enjoying being his own boss these days. Plenty of work out there if one is motivated enough to seek it out.


8 posted on 05/18/2009 7:02:57 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
In other news:

Republicans are happier than Democrats and ... old men tend to be happier than old women.

Go figure.

Women's Studies? Urban Studies? Basket Weaving? iPod Studies? The Sociology of Porn?

Wow. Diversity offers such a cornucopia of educational choices! It's hard to pick just one!

9 posted on 05/18/2009 7:05:08 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Huskrrrr
Boy, not a babe in the bunch of them.

For babes you need to check out the founders of the NOW organization in their original group photo 1966.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

10 posted on 05/18/2009 7:06:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
You got that right. Even my company's clients ping me to see if I want to come over to their house and reload software, remove viruses, recover files, figure out what their kid did to their browser settings, etc. If I had the motivation and start-up capital to do it, I'd go into data recovery services if I was in a major city. BIG MONEY.


11 posted on 05/18/2009 7:07:49 PM PDT by Viking2002 (This tagline for rent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot; Huskrrrr

Interesting that the feminists (heterosexual back then) in 1966 still smiled.


12 posted on 05/18/2009 7:09:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

Isn’t that Michael Steele second from the right?


13 posted on 05/18/2009 7:14:57 PM PDT by Godebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

Oh my, is michelle obimbo in the front row, 2nd from right. It is hard to miss that famous stance. You know, the bowling ball between the knees look.


14 posted on 05/18/2009 7:16:43 PM PDT by I_be_tc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Godebert

I don’t know but I think that I could cure that one on the left front.


15 posted on 05/18/2009 7:17:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Cindy

Thanks for those links Cindy!


16 posted on 05/18/2009 7:26:16 PM PDT by Sparky1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

I may be behind the times but I don’t consider a computer technician to be a blue collar worker, not that there’s anything wrong with being a computer technician. In my youth a blue collar worker was someone who worked in a factory, drove a truck or otherwise actually got callouses on their hands through manual labor-but like I said, I’m probably just behind the times.


17 posted on 05/18/2009 7:28:12 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
If the goal of the Left is to upset the current power structure, to empower the underclasses at the expense of the bourgeoisie, then it would seem they are accomplishing exactly what they set out to do.

Good news for "minorities." Bad news for WASP males.

18 posted on 05/18/2009 7:30:24 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dajeeps

He doesn’t have a college degree.

That could be his problem. Lots of companies require a degree before they will consider someone for a job like a computer tech.

He might have 20 years experience in his field, but he won’t even get an interview and the job will go to someone with no experience and a BA in sociology.


19 posted on 05/18/2009 7:51:53 PM PDT by hirn_man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Viking2002

What is a rug muncher?


20 posted on 05/18/2009 7:53:49 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Desron13

My computer programmer brother told me 15 years ago that programming is the “blue collar job of the future.”

Looks like he was right.

And me—never thought I’d ever have to learn to program a computer—female, bad at math, 40 yrs old, mom to 4, zero interest in computers—my employer last year asked me to learn Visual Basic for Applications, for Excel, and I have.

Pigs fly. . .

Soon we will all be programmers. It’s simply the future.


21 posted on 05/18/2009 8:01:01 PM PDT by olivia3boys
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
I don’t know but I think that I could cure that one on the left front.

The picture was taken in 1966. Add 43 years to her age and then think about it.

22 posted on 05/18/2009 8:26:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (42 shopping days to Graybeard58s b/day. Selah.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
I don’t know but I think that I could cure that one on the left front.

The picture was taken in 1966. Add 43 years to her age and then think about it.

23 posted on 05/18/2009 8:26:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (42 shopping days to Graybeard58s b/day. Selah.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

That occurred to me after I posted, I did cure a campus NOW President once though.


24 posted on 05/18/2009 8:30:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Desron13
Mmm... Since when is a computer technician position considered "blue collar"?

He probably sets up them up, plugs this into that, fixes jammed printers and maybe changes out parts. That would be what we call a "technician" like in HVAC technician. I'm blue collar, a Plant Engineering Technician and I spend more time with computers than anything since most of our HVAC equipment is now controlled by them. This also includes basic programming in the building management software language. We use Siemens Apogee Insight.

25 posted on 05/18/2009 8:55:37 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Sparky1776

You’re welcome Sparky1776.


26 posted on 05/18/2009 8:58:58 PM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: tbw2
What is a rug muncher?

Google it and report back. Make sure your virus definitions are up to date though.

27 posted on 05/18/2009 9:06:50 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama has raised gas prices 40%. Thank you Obamination!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: hirn_man

You are right. I misread it. Thanks for pointing it out.


28 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:14 PM PDT by dajeeps
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
I did cure a campus NOW President once though.

Thanks for this morning's smile.

29 posted on 05/19/2009 3:05:12 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: tbw2; ansel12; VeniVidiVici
What is a rug muncher?

rug munch (rg mnch) v. rugmunched, rugmunch·ing, rugmunch·es v.intr.
n. rugmuncher 1. A member of the squantas family concerning large predators of the primate family; masculine form of the rodent Barney Frank, the producers on the Bravo Network, and 75% of the contestants on American Idol
2. To eat with pleasure nylon, rayon, or other durable nappy fibers.
v.tr. To chew or eat audibly, especially in Women's Departments of Universities and at abortion rallies.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Middle English monchen.] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tapestry-muncher n.


30 posted on 05/19/2009 3:21:01 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Viking2002
I am out of flame throwers, but I do know where I can get some holy water.

It would have the same effect.

31 posted on 05/19/2009 3:22:43 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
I did cure a campus NOW President once though

After having a several months affair with me, she resigned her leadership role and left NOW.

Evidently I can fix'em.

32 posted on 05/19/2009 4:47:56 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Viking2002

Oh, yeah. Those ‘curious’ teenage boys and their viral destruction of the Family Computer is a money well that will never dry up, LOL!


33 posted on 05/19/2009 5:04:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

“In the 1990-91 recession, men lost 1.037 million jobs. They have lost 4.5 million to date in this one. ‘This time around it is amazingly different in terms of the magnitude,’ Sum said.”

Let me be the first to say, “0bama’s Fault!”

Truly, that’s SOME number to wrap your brain around! We’re remaining relatively untouched here in southern Wisconsin, but the ripples are starting to be felt due to the Auto Industry problems; local dealerships are closing, and that effects everyone down the food/retail chain. We’ve lost a dairy, which is tragic, and the main problem is that business isn’t moving here IN THE FIRST PLACE because of our tax-happy Democrat-run Governorship, House and Assembly.

So far, the fact that we have a LOT of government, a big state-run university and lots of hospitals has helped greatly; they’re pretty recession-proof.

But, I have no doubt that it’s coming. We’ve been doing pretty well so far, and only have one family member laid off right now; but he’s a liberal, tree-hugging, barely employable bum to begin with, LOL!


34 posted on 05/19/2009 5:12:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

We were told a couple of weeks ago that some folks on State Department of Education pensions (not teachers, but ancillary educational workers) had their pensions cut. They are flaming libs and were *shocked* at the *investments* of their plan. They were in the *core* (conservative) program. They were warned back in February and had 2% cut in March. This was an additional cut effective, IIRC, as of June. It wasn’t a huge amount, but the writing is one the wall. Unfortunately, this affects many of my husband’s clients, but we haven’t had any effect from it, yet. He does have a regular client who lost 40% due to being invested in the *variable* pension plan option, but she returned after about a month.

I am unsure if this also affects teachers.


35 posted on 05/19/2009 7:28:05 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot
LOL!! Napolitano is beyond that.


36 posted on 05/19/2009 8:39:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama has raised gas prices 40%. Thank you Obamination!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

Sorry, blue collar workers. The free trade crowd decided you made too much money. Outsource all jobs, print more money. All we have to do is look at the economy to see what a massive success this strategy has been.


37 posted on 05/19/2009 8:41:53 AM PDT by mysterio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mysterio
Sorry, blue collar workers. The free trade crowd decided you made too much money.

Bbbbbut?! We voted for Hope and Change!!!!!!!


38 posted on 05/19/2009 10:10:31 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: tbw2
'What is a rug muncher?'

OK, riddle me this, Batman:

Q: What is the difference between a Triscuit and a lesbian?

A: One of them is a snack cracker.


39 posted on 05/19/2009 4:56:45 PM PDT by Viking2002 (This tagline for rent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
I have a computer room at home, since I work out of a virtual office. Not only does it look like the bridge of the starship Enterprise (as you can imagine), I also do bench repairs there. And at least once a month, the PC of an in-law or one of the wife's co-workers magically appears there, in need of some sort of laying of the hands, or other voodoo. I trained her good in the art of Field Triage 101 several years ago so I wouldn't come home from work, expecting to pour a glass of wine and cook a hot meal, only to find another sick patient wanting after-hours care. LOL She's probably better at meat-and-potatoes diagnostics than some of the techs I run with. LMAO


40 posted on 05/19/2009 5:05:47 PM PDT by Viking2002 (This tagline for rent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Viking2002

My Husband says, “You are a very lucky man!” LOL!

I don’t know jack about computers. I don’t know jack about my car. I don’t know jack about plumbing or heating or air conditioning or how our riding lawn mower works...but there’s always someone handy that does! ;)

However...Husband couldn’t balance our budget, balance his checkbook or find foodstuffs in an overflowing refrigerator or pantry to save his life!

That’s where MY skills come in handy. ;)

And that ‘diapering babies’ and ‘holding anyone’s head over the toilet and not getting pukey myself’-thing has earned me TONS of Brownie Points over the years... ;)


41 posted on 05/19/2009 5:17:10 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
Dunno, her name reminds of "Happily Ever After"...

Do what you can with it.

Cheers!

42 posted on 06/05/2009 7:56:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
Just curious:

1) What attracted you to one another initially?

2) How did you convince her to reach first base with a man?

3) Did she persuade any of her friends?

Cheers!

43 posted on 06/05/2009 7:58:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: grey_whiskers

She was hetro, NOW used to not be lesbian, I hired her for my sales crew, she was brilliant and could read Greek and Latin, I was just out of the army, her (young) boss and only wanted to sell, drink and party.

I don’t remember talking to her about feminism but when I asked her why she quit she said that she had only had about a half dozen staid, boring boyfriends (probably well bred) and that she didn’t know that men were so much fun, etc.

She was quite a gal and if you haven’t had sex in a Toyota Corolla going from Arlington to Dallas after a succesful sales night, without headlights (alternator out) drinking beer, with two other girls and a guy in the back seat, and you driving with her sitting on your lap, then you may not know how to fix feminists.


44 posted on 06/06/2009 12:13:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson