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Can We Really Reverse-Engineer a Dinosaur?
ICR ^ | May 19, 2009 | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D., and Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 05/21/2009 11:53:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Can We Really Reverse-Engineer a Dinosaur?

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D., and Brian Thomas, M.S.*

A recent TV show has proposed the possibility that dinosaurs may walk the earth again someday as a result of man’s ingenuity.

Dinosaurs: Return to Life, which aired on the Discovery Channel,[1] included commentary from renowned dinosaur paleontologist Jack Horner and an assortment of molecular biologists who are studying bird development. Combined with the recent release of Horner’s book How to Build a Dinosaur, an interest has been sparked in the possible development of some type of “Jurassic Park” scenario in which a dinosaur-like creature could be developed using the genome of a...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creation; dinosaur; dinosaurs; evolution; intelligentdesign; jurassicpark; nonscience; science; thisisareligiontopic

1 posted on 05/21/2009 11:53:56 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Don’t see why not. They did it in Jurassic Park.


2 posted on 05/21/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...
Ping!
3 posted on 05/21/2009 11:56:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Can We Really Reverse-Engineer a Dinosaur

NO 

4 posted on 05/21/2009 11:56:44 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: GodGunsGuts

It seems like it wasn’t that long ago people were saying we could never, ever in a million years successfully clone an animal, either.


5 posted on 05/21/2009 11:59:30 AM PDT by gdani (I've got a new road under my wheels)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I believe the question is stated incorrectly.

Should we re-engineer a dinosaur?

Given our technological capabilities at present, we could probably make some good progress to doing this, and we would likely learn quite a bit about the process. But this does lead us to some very unstable moral and ethical ground.

When in doubt, just feed the T-Rex a lawyer.

6 posted on 05/21/2009 11:59:34 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Can We? Maybe someday

Should We? How does Dino Meat taste?


7 posted on 05/21/2009 11:59:39 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: GodGunsGuts

Cool.


8 posted on 05/21/2009 12:00:48 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

A pile of crap was reversed engineered and we got Zero.


9 posted on 05/21/2009 12:01:58 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: NavyCanDo
How does Dino Meat taste?

Judging by what their descendants taste like, I would guess some of them tasted like chicken.
10 posted on 05/21/2009 12:02:31 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: NavyCanDo
"How does Dino Meat taste? "

It tastes just like prehistoric chicken.

11 posted on 05/21/2009 12:03:03 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: NavyCanDo

Like chicken.....


12 posted on 05/21/2009 12:06:21 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Lets do it, what could possibly go wrong?


13 posted on 05/21/2009 12:06:27 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: GodGunsGuts

14 posted on 05/21/2009 12:07:41 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 122 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: HerrBlucher

"Life finds a way."

15 posted on 05/21/2009 12:08:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: NavyCanDo
Should We? How does Dino Meat taste?

Just like chicken. Duh!

16 posted on 05/21/2009 12:09:26 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 122 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Your so-called creation ‘scientists’ conveniently ignored the fact that birds are descended from dinosaurs and that most of the dinos were in fact warm blooded themselves.


17 posted on 05/21/2009 12:09:52 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Can We Really Reverse-Engineer a Dinosaur?”

Oh, you mean like make the New York Times a BALANCED media outlet? >;-)


18 posted on 05/21/2009 12:14:13 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

But, but dinosaurs pooped a lot, didn’t they? What about their carbon footprint?


19 posted on 05/21/2009 12:15:31 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: tet68

First, you have to believe in engineering.


20 posted on 05/21/2009 12:15:40 PM PDT by Darwins Revenge
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To: Darwins Revenge

Oh I do, it’s obvious they left off the wheels on the early versions.


21 posted on 05/21/2009 12:16:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Quite possibly. The techniques of gene fabrication are getting better all the time. All they need is a template, sufficient time and money to assemble the DNA, and then inject the DNA into a suitable reptile cell. Clone, and presto! Dinosaur!
22 posted on 05/21/2009 12:17:12 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: GodGunsGuts

They’re walking the earth right now. Birds. Can’t go outside without them sqwauking something or other. It’s pretty well conclusive now that birds are dinosaur’s that survived whatever killed the rest of them. Thank God for the Chicken Dinosaur. Kentucky Fried Chickensourus, with those great bisquits.


23 posted on 05/21/2009 12:18:07 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: dfwgator

“Sure it always starts with Oooos and AHhh’s
but then comes the running and the screaming”.

My favorite line.


24 posted on 05/21/2009 12:19:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Can We Really Reverse-Engineer a Dinosaur?

It has already been done.


25 posted on 05/21/2009 12:21:35 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I wish we could reverse-engineer the America of long ago.


26 posted on 05/21/2009 12:23:11 PM PDT by lado
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To: tet68

Read the article.

Jurassic Park used DNA recovery.

This article talks about tweaking modern bird DNA to produce a dinosaur.


27 posted on 05/21/2009 12:26:56 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ConservaTexan

First and only good laff of the day!


28 posted on 05/21/2009 12:30:13 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: tet68

First it starts with all the Oohs and Aahs, then it always ends up with the running and the screaming... (paraphrasing chaos philosopher from JP2)


29 posted on 05/21/2009 12:33:56 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: fishtank

First you need some dinosaur DNA and sequence the entire genome. Then change the chicken’s genome (thousands if not millions of changes). I had to make 10 changes in one gene when I was working in biotech. It took several months.


30 posted on 05/21/2009 12:39:48 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

Serious scientists are already discussing and ruling out sythesis embryonics as patently unethical avenues of study.

http://2008.igem.org/Team:KULeuven/Ethics/Concerns/Concerns

“The film Jurassic Park exemplifies this whole discussion. The scientists in the movie are so focused on the question if they were able to clone dinosaurs, that no one asked whether they should be doing it! This should learn us a lesson and make us ask ourselves whether we should be practicing synthetic biology at all. Other questions follow on this one: is synthetic biology inherently wrong? If we act out of a deep respect for nature and life, doesn’t this require that we let go synthetic biology? “


31 posted on 05/21/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: ConservaTexan

I was wondering how long it would take someone to bring in the HT photos...


32 posted on 05/21/2009 12:42:26 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: fishtank

If anyone says that there is a dino DNA sequence in the book, Michael Chriton used the sequence of pBR322, a common plasmid (DNA circle) used to clone stuff into bacteria. Soon after the book came out, someone ran the sequence versus the databases available then.


33 posted on 05/21/2009 12:43:26 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: Wacka
First you need some dinosaur DNA and sequence the entire genome. Then change the chicken’s genome (thousands if not millions of changes). I had to make 10 changes in one gene when I was working in biotech. It took several months.

What do you mean by "change"? A base change? You can introduce changes of thousands of bases in about a day and a half.
34 posted on 05/21/2009 12:44:14 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Hodar

The question of “Should” is irrelevant. If we can, someone will.


35 posted on 05/21/2009 12:49:11 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: nuke rocketeer; GodGunsGuts
Your so-called creation ‘scientists’ conveniently ignored the fact that birds are descended from dinosaurs and that most of the dinos were in fact warm blooded themselves.

Yeah, right....

USGS... Were dinosaurs warm-blooded?

Scientists have conflicting opinions on this subject. Some paleontologists think that all dinosaurs were "warm-blooded" in the same sense that modern birds and mammals are: that is, they had rapid metabolic rates. Other scientists think it unlikely that any dinosaur could have had a rapid metabolic rate. Some scientists think that very big dinosaurs could have had warm bodies because of their large body size, just as some sea turtles do today. It may be that some dinosaurs were warm-blooded. The problem is that it is hard to find evidence that unquestionably shows what dinosaur metabolisms were like.

36 posted on 05/21/2009 12:52:47 PM PDT by AndrewC (Metanoia)
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To: FormerRep

“...ruling out sythesis embryonics as patently unethical avenues of study”

So they are ethical?


37 posted on 05/21/2009 1:14:43 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: GodGunsGuts

Whatever the answer, I have absolute confidence that the dim bulbs at ICR will be wrong about it.


38 posted on 05/21/2009 1:36:40 PM PDT by Eddeche
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’d rather they spend time trying to create a patriotic democrat!


39 posted on 05/21/2009 1:39:55 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Can such a chimera live?


40 posted on 05/21/2009 1:50:57 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 122 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

Would it not be a hybrid instead?


41 posted on 05/21/2009 6:06:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


42 posted on 05/21/2009 8:31:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: valkyry1

But I do wish they could bring back Mom, I really miss her sometimes.


43 posted on 05/22/2009 6:27:40 AM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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