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Revealed: The Obama birth certificate protection act
WND ^ | May 24, 2009

Posted on 05/24/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by Joiseydude

WASHINGTON – A bill approved by the House of Representatives and referred to the Senate would prohibit federal employees of executive branch from being compelled to release any document unless a court makes a specified determination by a preponderance of evidence – legislation at least one group suspects is designed to protect Barack Obama's elusive birth certificate from release.

The legislation, HR 985, resides in the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Sovereignty Alliance has issued a "red alert" about the bill it calls "stealth legislation ... to protect Obama from providing his birth certificate."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: akaobama; bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; constitution; eligibility; ineligible; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; usurper
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1 posted on 05/24/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: STARWISE

MAJOR PING!!


2 posted on 05/24/2009 8:57:23 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Joiseydude

What happened to the bill that was asking that all elected officials PROVE their citizenship?


3 posted on 05/24/2009 8:58:18 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Joiseydude

Illegal. Conflicts with the Constitution


4 posted on 05/24/2009 8:58:28 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Joiseydude

Absolutely not! If he needs an act of Congress to protect his BC then there obviously is something on it that he doesn’t want released. I’d call that a preponderance of evidence right there. Show us the BC obama, until then, you are not President in my opinion, you’re a lying fraud that belongs in jail. As far as I’m concerned, he’s simply an un-convicted (yet) felon.


5 posted on 05/24/2009 8:58:54 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: yldstrk

So are bailouts, but I don’t see that stopping Obama.


6 posted on 05/24/2009 8:59:33 PM PDT by Joiseydude (Kate Smith - God Bless America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM GREAT visual interpretatio)
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To: LucyT; Polarik

Unmitigated BS bill....


7 posted on 05/24/2009 9:02:10 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: Joiseydude

A couple weeks ago, I sent an email to Glenn Beck concerning the issues surrounding Obama’s birth certificate. Other than an auotmated response saying “Thank you, blah, blah, blah,” I have yet to see Beck run with anything on it.

And now this?
Beck ought to be on this story like he is on ACORN. Grrr.


8 posted on 05/24/2009 9:03:25 PM PDT by cranked
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

It wasn’t an election we had last year, it was a coup d’état.


9 posted on 05/24/2009 9:04:21 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: goodnesswins

That one makes a lot more sense.


10 posted on 05/24/2009 9:10:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Joiseydude

Lets see if I’ve got this straight... You don’t have to produce ID in order to vote. The people running for the office of POTUS don’t have to prove that they fulfill the Constitutional requirement of the position, and now they’re going to pass this law. But in order to get a stinking drivers license, I had to produce a certified copy of my birth certificate... OK, that certainly makes sense...


11 posted on 05/24/2009 9:11:55 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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In before the “birther” haters, and the Obama lovers.


12 posted on 05/24/2009 9:15:12 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Joiseydude

Do I have my calendar wrong? Is it really April 1st?


13 posted on 05/24/2009 9:15:19 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Zer0 and Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Aria; Joiseydude
You're exactly right Aria.

The election of this communist usurper was/is intended to overthrow the United States Of America.

There are only two ways out of this, and neither one is pretty.

14 posted on 05/24/2009 9:15:21 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Remember our fallen BROTHERS and SISTERS!)
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To: Joiseydude

Those a-holes in the House.

I hate them.


15 posted on 05/24/2009 9:15:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The UN has never won a war, nor a conflict, but liberals want it to rule all militaries.)
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To: Joiseydude

16 posted on 05/24/2009 9:16:35 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Zer0 and Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Joiseydude

More proof that 0 is in the White House fraudulently, and Congress knows it.


17 posted on 05/24/2009 9:18:02 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Markos33

Now, I think a President Sarah Palin would be very pretty. This chick would know what to do with a recalcitrant Congress (whether or not formally R).


18 posted on 05/24/2009 9:18:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Jackasses act like jackasses. Surprise, surprise.


19 posted on 05/24/2009 9:19:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: yldstrk
can you expand on this for us?

Illegal. Conflicts with the Constitution

20 posted on 05/24/2009 9:20:28 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 91:4 ...staying cuddled Under His Wings)
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To: Markos33

Only saving grace is national prayer and repentance, another is a hit team.

Which one would you choose?


21 posted on 05/24/2009 9:22:18 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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What are you hiding Mr. Barry Barrack Sotuero Obama Scumbag?


22 posted on 05/24/2009 9:24:26 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Joiseydude

Summary.

2/11/2009—Passed House without amendment.
(This measure has not been amended since it was introduced. The summary of that version is repeated here.)
Free Flow of Information Act of 2009 - Prohibits a federal entity (an entity or employee of the judicial or executive branch or an administrative agency of the federal government), in any matter arising under federal law, from compelling a covered person to testify or produce any document unless a court makes specified determinations by a preponderance of the evidence, including determinations: (1) relating to exhaustion of alternative sources, (2) that the testimony or document sought is critical; (3) that disclosure of the information source’s identity is necessary; and (4) that the public interest in compelling disclosure of the information or document involved outweighs the public interest in gathering or disseminating news or information. Allows a court, in making the last of those determinations, to consider the extent of any harm to national security.
Defines “covered person” as a person who regularly gathers, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes information concerning matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the person’s livelihood or substantial financial gain, including a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such a person. Excludes from that definition foreign powers and their agents and certain terrorist organizations and individuals.
Requires the content of compelled testimony or documents to be limited and narrowly tailored.
Prohibits construing this Act as applying to civil defamation, slander, or libel claims or defenses under state law.
Exempts certain criminal or tortious conduct.
Applies this Act to communications service providers with regard to testimony or any record, information, or other communication that relates to a business transaction between such providers and covered persons. Sets forth notice requirements. Permits a court to delay notice to a covered person upon determining that such notice would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of a criminal investigation.


23 posted on 05/24/2009 9:24:37 PM PDT by ktw (kakatte koi)
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To: pallis

I saw that Comedy Central ran the documentary, “Idiocracy,” tonight - we’re there, folks!


24 posted on 05/24/2009 9:26:27 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

And every legislation he had enacted is automatically rendered null and void.

Refer the Zero to the Justice Department. Now.


25 posted on 05/24/2009 9:27:03 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Joiseydude

Updated information...

Sponsor: Rep. Frederick Boucher [D-VA9]show cosponsors (50)

Status: Introduced Feb 11, 2009
Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Reported by Committee Mar 25, 2009
Passed House Mar 31, 2009
Voted on in Senate ...
Signed by President ...

This bill has been passed in the House. The bill now goes on to be voted on in the Senate. Keep in mind that debate may be taking place on a companion bill in the Senate, rather than on this particular bill. [Last Updated: May 22, 2009 8:30AM]


26 posted on 05/24/2009 9:27:47 PM PDT by ktw (kakatte koi)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000

Ping of interest!


27 posted on 05/24/2009 9:29:02 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: pollywog

The Constitution specifically outlines the qualifications to run for President. This new law would prohibit anyone from having to prove they’re eligible under those terms. So, all sorts of mischief will follow his royal highness, Barry Soertoro. Unless of course, he gets rid of term limits, too. Just run for that third term, Barry - make them try and stop you. Even the Clintonss didn’t have the balls to do that...but you and Michelle sure do. Coup d’etat, for sure. And we’re all fiddling....


28 posted on 05/24/2009 9:30:15 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Now, I think a Sarah Palin would be very pretty.”

She be would indeed. But there will never be another free presidential election in this country until these enemies are dealt with.

29 posted on 05/24/2009 9:30:22 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Honor our fallen BROTHERS and SISTERS!)
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To: MarkL
Lets see if I’ve got this straight... You don’t have to produce ID in order to vote. The people running for the office of POTUS don’t have to prove that they fulfill the Constitutional requirement of the position, and now they’re going to pass this law. But in order to get a stinking drivers license, I had to produce a certified copy of my birth certificate... OK, that certainly makes sense...

Not to mention the hoops I have to jump through in order to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights...

30 posted on 05/24/2009 9:30:30 PM PDT by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: BIGLOOK; null and void; stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
Thanks, BIGLOOK.

Revealed: The Obama birth certificate protection act

31 posted on 05/24/2009 9:30:53 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

~~PING!


32 posted on 05/24/2009 9:32:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Joiseydude

Free Flow of Information Act of 2009 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)
HR 985 RFS

111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 985

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 1, 2009

Received; read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

AN ACT

To maintain the free flow of information to the public by providing conditions for the federally compelled disclosure of information by certain persons connected with the news media.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Free Flow of Information Act of 2009’.
SEC. 2. COMPELLED DISCLOSURE FROM COVERED PERSONS.

(a) Conditions for Compelled Disclosure- In any matter arising under Federal law, a Federal entity may not compel a covered person to provide testimony or produce any document related to information obtained or created by such covered person as part of engaging in journalism, unless a court determines by a preponderance of the evidence, after providing notice and an opportunity to be heard to such covered person—
(1) that the party seeking to compel production of such testimony or document has exhausted all reasonable alternative sources (other than the covered person) of the testimony or document;
(2) that—
(A) in a criminal investigation or prosecution, based on information obtained from a person other than the covered person—
(i) there are reasonable grounds to believe that a crime has occurred; and
(ii) the testimony or document sought is critical to the investigation or prosecution or to the defense against the prosecution; or
(B) in a matter other than a criminal investigation or prosecution, based on information obtained from a person other than the covered person, the testimony or document sought is critical to the successful completion of the matter;
(3) in the case that the testimony or document sought could reveal the identity of a source of information or include any information that could reasonably be expected to lead to the discovery of the identity of such a source, that—
(A) disclosure of the identity of such a source is necessary to prevent, or to identify any perpetrator of, an act of terrorism against the United States or its allies or other significant and specified harm to national security with the objective to prevent such harm;
(B) disclosure of the identity of such a source is necessary to prevent imminent death or significant bodily harm with the objective to prevent such death or harm, respectively;
(C) disclosure of the identity of such a source is necessary to identify a person who has disclosed—
(i) a trade secret, actionable under section 1831 or 1832 of title 18, United States Code;
(ii) individually identifiable health information, as such term is defined in section 1171(6) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1320d(6)), actionable under Federal law; or
(iii) nonpublic personal information, as such term is defined in section 509(4) of the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act (15 U.S.C. 6809(4)), of any consumer actionable under Federal law; or
(D)(i) disclosure of the identity of such a source is essential to identify in a criminal investigation or prosecution a person who without authorization disclosed properly classified information and who at the time of such disclosure had authorized access to such information; and
(ii) such unauthorized disclosure has caused or will cause significant and articulable harm to the national security; and
(4) that the public interest in compelling disclosure of the information or document involved outweighs the public interest in gathering or disseminating news or information.
(b) Authority To Consider National Security Interest- For purposes of making a determination under subsection (a)(4), a court may consider the extent of any harm to national security.
(c) Limitations on Content of Information- The content of any testimony or document that is compelled under subsection (a) shall—
(1) not be overbroad, unreasonable, or oppressive and, as appropriate, be limited to the purpose of verifying published information or describing any surrounding circumstances relevant to the accuracy of such published information; and
(2) be narrowly tailored in subject matter and period of time covered so as to avoid compelling production of peripheral, nonessential, or speculative information.
(d) Rule of Construction- Nothing in this Act shall be construed as applying to civil defamation, slander, or libel claims or defenses under State law, regardless of whether or not such claims or defenses, respectively, are raised in a State or Federal court.
(e) Exception Relating to Criminal or Tortious Conduct- The provisions of this section shall not prohibit or otherwise limit a Federal entity in any matter arising under Federal law from compelling a covered person to disclose any information, record, document, or item obtained as the result of the eyewitness observation by the covered person of alleged criminal conduct or as the result of the commission of alleged criminal or tortious conduct by the covered person, including any physical evidence or visual or audio recording of the conduct, if a Federal court determines that the party seeking to compel such disclosure has exhausted all other reasonable efforts to obtain the information, record, document, or item, respectively, from alternative sources. The previous sentence shall not apply, and subsections (a) and (b) shall apply, in the case that the alleged criminal conduct observed by the covered person or the alleged criminal or tortious conduct committed by the covered person is the act of transmitting or communicating the information, record, document, or item sought for disclosure.
SEC. 3. COMPELLED DISCLOSURE FROM COMMUNICATIONS SERVICE PROVIDERS.

(a) Conditions for Compelled Disclosure- With respect to testimony or any document consisting of any record, information, or other communication that relates to a business transaction between a communications service provider and a covered person, section 2 shall apply to such testimony or document if sought from the communications service provider in the same manner that such section applies to any testimony or document sought from a covered person.
(b) Notice and Opportunity Provided to Covered Persons- A court may compel the testimony or disclosure of a document under this section only after the party seeking such a document provides the covered person who is a party to the business transaction described in subsection (a)—
(1) notice of the subpoena or other compulsory request for such testimony or disclosure from the communications service provider not later than the time at which such subpoena or request is issued to the communications service provider; and
(2) an opportunity to be heard before the court before the time at which the testimony or disclosure is compelled.
(c) Exception to Notice Requirement- Notice under subsection (b)(1) may be delayed only if the court involved determines by clear and convincing evidence that such notice would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of a criminal investigation.
SEC. 4. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) COMMUNICATIONS SERVICE PROVIDER- The term `communications service provider’—
(A) means any person that transmits information of the customer’s choosing by electronic means; and
(B) includes a telecommunications carrier, an information service provider, an interactive computer service provider, and an information content provider (as such terms are defined in sections 3 and 230 of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 153, 230)).
(2) COVERED PERSON- The term `covered person’ means a person who regularly gathers, prepares, collects, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes news or information that concerns local, national, or international events or other matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the person’s livelihood or for substantial financial gain and includes a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such covered person. Such term shall not include—
(A) any person who is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power, as such terms are defined in section 101 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801);
(B) any organization designated by the Secretary of State as a foreign terrorist organization in accordance with section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1189);
(C) any person included on the Annex to Executive Order No. 13224, of September 23, 2001, and any other person identified under section 1 of that Executive order whose property and interests in property are blocked by that section;
(D) any person who is a specially designated terrorist, as that term is defined in section 595.311 of title 31, Code of Federal Regulations (or any successor thereto); or
(E) any terrorist organization, as that term is defined in section 212(a)(3)(B)(vi)(II) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(3)(B)(vi)(II)).
(3) DOCUMENT- The term `document’ means writings, recordings, and photographs, as those terms are defined by Federal Rule of Evidence 1001 (28 U.S.C. App.).
(4) FEDERAL ENTITY- The term `Federal entity’ means an entity or employee of the judicial or executive branch or an administrative agency of the Federal Government with the power to issue a subpoena or issue other compulsory process.
(5) JOURNALISM- The term `journalism’ means the gathering, preparing, collecting, photographing, recording, writing, editing, reporting, or publishing of news or information that concerns local, national, or international events or other matters of public interest for dissemination to the public.
Passed the House of Representatives March 31, 2009.

Attest:

LORRAINE C. MILLER,

Clerk.


33 posted on 05/24/2009 9:32:36 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Joiseydude

Oh what incredible BullSnot!!!!! I have to give my ID to rent a fricken DVD and show my birth certificate at least few times a year to do any business with the government.

I’m so sick of these asshats being above the little people. I’m beginning to understand why the French took the extreme actions they did during their revolution.


34 posted on 05/24/2009 9:33:48 PM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

And an illegal alien. He’s never proved he was born in the U.S. nor has he shown any legal right to be in the States.


35 posted on 05/24/2009 9:35:30 PM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: penelopesire

It has been written and it has been decreed that Obama does not have to show the birth certificate. The dirty little secret is that everyone knows he was born in Kenya so affirmative action is aok.


36 posted on 05/24/2009 9:38:07 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Joiseydude

This is a great concern should O turns out to be a false president, every act, every signature given to passing laws will be stricken NULL and VOID!

That would mean all the Stimulus Bills will be put aside, and the money returned to the treasury! The Budget would be cancelled, everything!

And O would be in jail!


37 posted on 05/24/2009 9:39:04 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (`)
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To: cranked

NOBODY is on this story that has any real national exposure.

Hannity silent.
Levin silent.
Rush silent.
Beck silent.
O’Reilly silent.
Andrew Wilkow silent.

I hope they are silent simple because they do not want to say anything until they are 100% sure Obama is not a citizen. BUT and this is a HUGE but...Levin knows the constitution. He knows what the definition of a Natural Born Citizen is. He has to know Obama Sr. makes Jr. ineligible to hold office; yet he’s said nothing.

Something or someone is preventing these guys from discussing this issue, one day I hope to find out what.


38 posted on 05/24/2009 9:39:10 PM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: LucyT

This is insanity but maybe could be the catalyst of a case that SCOTUS might have to decide.

It could blow up in the Saudi, Islam and commie loving Dems faces in the House covering for the Islamic usurper.

Maybe Roberts will do his job. I know Scalia and Roberts will and probably Alito too.


39 posted on 05/24/2009 9:41:31 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: thecodont

The “Free Flow of Information Act”? They do lie with their titles . A more apt and accurate name for this is ‘Protect the Criminal Congress Act of 2009’.


40 posted on 05/24/2009 9:41:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Brytani

Obama has himself perfectly positioned so that despite being born in Kenya, ordinary rules do not apply and if you think so you are a racist. Just ask the media.


41 posted on 05/24/2009 9:41:53 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
That would mean all the Stimulus Bills will be put aside, and the money returned to the treasury! The Budget would be cancelled, everything!

Wishful thinking. The thieves have run off with the money. Declaring the actions illegal won't make the money magically reappear. That damage is done.

42 posted on 05/24/2009 9:42:05 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Brytani

book mark for later.


43 posted on 05/24/2009 9:42:43 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Joiseydude
This is BS we have every right to know who exactly is in Government working for US..
44 posted on 05/24/2009 9:43:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: potlatch

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Who will eliminate Hitler?


45 posted on 05/24/2009 9:43:47 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: Boardwalk

Well then I’m a racist and damn proud of it. I also do not have a president, unfortunately I still have massive tax bills....


46 posted on 05/24/2009 9:47:14 PM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: Joiseydude

Hideous evil bustards from hell.

A pox on all their complicit houses.


47 posted on 05/24/2009 9:49:19 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Joiseydude
I am a Birther...tried and true. Barry is not a U.S. citizen. He (His mom) obtained a Hawaiian Birth Cert based on current laws back in the 60's where citizens of Hawaii could obtain BC's for children born outside of the islands as long as they (One of the parents) was a resident of Hawaii within a certain time frame regardless of where that child was born. Daddy was Kenyan, right?

This POS is not U.S. born. His mother obtained a BC on those laws and he has been waving that "Short Form" around all of his life...it only shows a Hawaiian BC, not where he was originally born, his religion, his hospital of birth, the birthing doctor...none of that. If I show you something you accept as real up front, you never ask about Hawaiian law from the 60's....and George Soros knew that.

It is simply...Barry's fake BC "...has always gotten me through. Got me a Passport and more"...no one bothered to check or get into Hawaiian law from when this Hitler-like garbage was born. Soros, trying to destroy this country through his 60's radical manipulation, thought no one would bother to dig deeper.

FReeper Birthers dug deeper...God BLESS everyone of them. Now it needs go viral!!!

OBAMA is not a U.S. Citizen...plain and simple.

For months we have disregarded the NBC question of Obama...FReepers have thought some of us were 9/11 truthers...God, please listen FReepers, he is not of our country.

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48 posted on 05/24/2009 9:54:57 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Obama: Succeeding Where Bin Laden Failed)
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To: Frantzie

What about Thomas?


49 posted on 05/24/2009 9:55:41 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: LucyT

And the cover-up goes on,,,

Not a word from the MSM,,,

Is it me or is that smoke gitin’ thicker ?

Is that Fire I See!?!?!...:0(


50 posted on 05/24/2009 9:56:08 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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