Skip to comments.Revealed: The Obama birth certificate protection act
Posted on 05/24/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by Joiseydude
WASHINGTON A bill approved by the House of Representatives and referred to the Senate would prohibit federal employees of executive branch from being compelled to release any document unless a court makes a specified determination by a preponderance of evidence legislation at least one group suspects is designed to protect Barack Obama's elusive birth certificate from release.
The legislation, HR 985, resides in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sovereignty Alliance has issued a "red alert" about the bill it calls "stealth legislation ... to protect Obama from providing his birth certificate."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
In my fantasies, a Moussad agent posing as a Kenyan villager becomes friend and confidant to the Kenyan grandmother. Grandma spills details about time and place, possibly providing incontrovertible evidence. Agent gets her on video AND in signed affidavit.
Seriously, though, why isn’t Zero getting the hives every day of his life wondering when or if he will be exposed? I’d be sweating bullets—but that’s just me.
Andrew Wilkow silent.
I hope they are silent simple because they do not want to say anything until they are 100% sure Obama is not a citizen.
I think this is very odd. Perhaps they are not allowed to talk about it per orders by their "owners" or perhaps they are letting outrage at demonrat governance build while waiting for the "right" moment. Or, perhaps they all simply look at this as kook fringe material.
What if obama isn't qualified to be President? What happens to all the legislation, etc. he signs into law? Perhaps this is the big RESET button for the things he says and does and "they" are waiting for the right time to mash it.
Make no mistake the country is being run by the Chicago mob along with a host of other characters that hate America. We are in for a huge SH_T STORM, IMHO.
If Mark Levin sees this my guess is that he would not ignore it,and being a constitutional lawyer he would be the best to cover it as well.I would not count him out yet.
You didn't think they let Hillary on the bus for free, did you?
I'd bet the content of 900+ FBI files on "leading Republicans" (and others) was the price of admission.
So much for transparency.
Making the Law to suit them. Before long, the Constitution will be replaced with a Social Democracy, Mob Rule Manifesto.
And we are powerless to stop it under Civil rules.
A five-million dollar bounty for the COLB.
(The most elusive item since the Holy Grail.)
The link to the WND article doesn’t work. Has it been pulled from thier website?
Nixon said “If the President does it, it’s not illegal”. So, if the American people elect a President, he does not have to provide a birth certificate, or there would be egg on the face of the voters, and we can’t have that.
He knows he won’t be exposed because the American people support him.
It’s not suspicious or surprising: the American people support this, and in this “democracy” (yea, I know it’s a republic.), they decide.
As the liberals used to say, don’t want an abortion, don’t have one. Now they would say, don’t like the President, don’t watch him.
Of course not. My own personal opinion is that anyone who voted for obama ought to be ashamed of themselves and have deep regrets. Every time I see an obama/biden bumper sticker (fortunately rarely around here) I laugh out loud and point at the driver. Many stare at me as if to say "What?" but a few have turned their heads and looked down in shame - they know. They wear the sticker like a scarlet letter.
Whoa.....doesn’t this say that the Feds cannot go after journalist types? NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
What am I missing?
That bill will never get past SCOTUS, its totally unconstitutional.
But what am I thinking, SCOTUS is neutered and no longer protecting the constitution.
Eventually, we will have to stop it. When the opposition ceases playing by the rules, you have to adopt the same approach or expect to be severely defeated.
Your info below is tremendous material. Someone should approach Obomo with this and ask him to comment. The authorities can’t ignore his lack of citizenship forever.
“Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.”
As most of you know, this story is FALSE. I wrote the following to WND last night and the story has been removed. Now you get an error message when you click the link to it.
HR 985 appears to be about PROTECTING JOURNALISTS and their SOURCES.
“(a) Conditions for Compelled Disclosure- In any matter arising under Federal law, a Federal entity may not compel a covered person to provide testimony or produce any document related to information obtained or created by such covered person as part of engaging in journalism, unless a court determines by a preponderance of the evidence, after providing notice and an opportunity to be heard to such covered person—”
“(2) COVERED PERSON- The term `covered person’ means a person who regularly gathers, prepares, collects, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes news or information that concerns local, national, or international events or other matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the person’s livelihood or for substantial financial gain and includes a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such covered person. Such term shall not include—”
I used to think that Obama was probably born in HI and that there really wasn't much of anything to all this BC noise. I assumed that his BC said something else that would have been tough to explain during the campaign, like "Muslim" was his religion, or "White" was his race or even "Obama" wasn't his real last name.
But, this is really, really bizarre. I'm starting to lean towards the birthers on this and I am curious why no one, especially right-wing talkers, aren't discussing this at all.
The reason the right wing talking heads are not talking about this is simple.
Nothing can be proved right now.
It is that simple, if there was some sort of proof, like say for instance the original Vault Copy of the Birth certificate, in their hands and it was as damning as we all know it must be. They’d nail Obama with it.
Until that happens they are biding their time,and secretly hoping they get to be the one that is first with the news.
Remember most of them are one step above news readers, they don’t make the news they just talk about it.
everybody have this information and researched it? I was looking for stanley ann information that I saved and up came orly’s link. Shirley Ann Dunham? False social security numbers. Rezko and obama. I never looked into it all and can’t even remember why I saved it. I know I saw obama’s mortgage papers online and they were in Rezko’s lawyers name. Someone on another blog gave a excuse but sometimes I think those excuses are given by those who want to detract from the truth.
This is WND doing what it always does, which is to take a portion of a document or story, and distort it to cause instant chagrin, and hype its readers into apoplexy. It is a deliberate lie.
This sentence has what is actually said in the bill exactly backwards, and anyone would do him/herself a favor by NOT using, or counting on, WND as a reliable source for information.
This bill is to protect NON federal entities from being compelled by Federal entities to reveal that which is private. And if you would read read it to completion, it protects communications between private citizens, networks, and communications companies as well.
It is protection FROM federal government, not FOR it.
Free Flow of Information Act of 2009 - Prohibits a federal entity (an entity or employee of the judicial or executive branch or an administrative agency of the federal government), in any matter arising under federal law, from compelling a covered person to testify or produce any document unless a court makes specified determinations by a preponderance of the evidence, including determinations: (1) relating to exhaustion of alternative sources, (2) that the testimony or document sought is critical; (3) that disclosure of the information sources identity is necessary; and (4) that the public interest in compelling disclosure of the information or document involved outweighs the public interest in gathering or disseminating news or information. Allows a court, in making the last of those determinations, to consider the extent of any harm to national security.
Defines covered person as a person who regularly gathers, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes information concerning matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the persons livelihood or substantial financial gain, including a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such a person. Excludes from that definition foreign powers and their agents and certain terrorist organizations and individuals.
WND has been doing this sort of thing for years. It is an unethical kind of journalism that fits more with, "My mother was an alien," than real, hard, truthful, factual news. You would not accept this shabbiness from HuffPo. Why accept it from WND?
A bill approved by the House of Representatives and referred to the Senate would prohibit federal employees of executive branch from being compelled to release any document unless a court makes a specified determination by a preponderance of evidence -- legislation at least one group suspects is designed to protect Barack Obama's elusive birth certificate from release. The legislation, HR 985, resides in the Senate Judiciary Committee. Sovereignty Alliance has issued a "red alert" about the bill it calls "stealth legislation ... to protect Obama from providing his birth certificate."How about divorce decrees? Or tax returns? Or discharge papers from the Vietnam era?
What you have quoted here is NOT TRUE. PLEASE read the original document. WND is not being honest here. PLEASE! There are many things we should be doing. This article is garbage. It’s a distraction and will not help anything.
I would like to think you are right. I pray you are. But with all the lawsuits and stonewalling obama has done, you don’t think they could question his secrecy? Obama, let me ask you about all these lawsuits? Is there a reason you refuse to show your vault copy? What if before obama is interviewed he tells them it is off limits? Remember on the VIEW it came out Michelle had a list of off limit questions.
In obama’s latest FEC filings he is using campaign money for these lawsuits. I wonder if the good people of America who donated to obama wanted their money to help him usurp the office of POTUS! I am sure the power elite evil would not care.
From what I have researched, read over and over, the media is owned by liberals who have wanted power for so long that I believe the reporters must help obama along and discredit naysayers. I believe they have been promised future gains, not in a evil way, but similar to, look this is our guy, we want him to succeed. We will promote you and make sure your position is stable with us for as long as you want. But we need your help. I saw a email basically saying lay off obama from one of the network heads. he then tried to say it was taken out of context. No it wasn’t. There was no memo saying lay off Palin either.
Realize that these people, media reporters, are set in their lives. They have made so much money they will never be in the position of let’s say, the big 3 with all the lay offs. They feel government should pay for those who have nothing. To make everyone equal. Most reporters are liberals and thank the Lord for those who are not. They have accountants who know how to keep their taxes low. The ones who have asked for their help are the power elite who own the media is my belief. Why I believe this is I do not beleive that a whole main stream media can be falling for obama’s schemes. Reporters know better.
The money obama has stolen from our grandchildren is being handed to the power elite. They in turn will make sure obama is the power elite. I cannot remember which bailout company it was but a major control or shares were given to Soros of all people. I almost fainted on that one. The IMF 100 billion addition is said to be something Soros wanted. Of course the end result is global power for Soros.
GE, MSNBC, NBC all part of the same company. Obama has thrown, stimulus, tarp, omnibus and 2010 3 plus trillion budget to GE. If you noticed MSNBC has the worst of the worst talking heads and some would say they were part of obama’s election campaign almost. Warren Buffet bought shares in GE at its lowest. He said it was a good company and he wanted to invest. What he really knew was what was coming. Obama was going to support every product they had by giving taxpayer money to GE. Windmill turbines, light bulbs, GE health registry that obama put Daschle in charge of. All in the name of clean energy and health reform.
Look at for instance newspapers. McClatchy owns a ton of newspaper from all over. They are for the most part liberal minded. I saw the tea parties in one of them and was in shock.
Citibank, citigroup, as they donate millions to LaRaza we are bailing them out. Also partially owned by a Saudi Prince who thinks America deserved 9/11. Now, Nation of Islam in the ‘60s had a splinter group Saudi Arabia of New York. Coincidence? Maybe but if there is one thing I learned from a couple of years in hospital, medical research, there are very few coincidences.
I want to believe what you feel but everything points to a more evil plot that has been planned for years. Unless the GOP gets someone out there with huevos, obama’s plans will go forward. They need to stand up and when obama calls them racist they need to call him on it. Obama is not for African Americans.
Does everyone realize obama ran on a promise to rebuild New Orleans? Has anyone heard one word of what he was going to do? Except the other day some are finally getting eviction notices from their subsidized or free apartments finally.
I would dearly love to see Obama’s birth certificate too, but....
I just read through the bill that you mentioned, H.R.985, found at:
It looks like this bill is designed to cover journalists from having to divulge their sources. Where in the bill did you find it is protecting Obama from having to show his birth certificate?
Ping to controversy.
When I need a birth certificate of someone living even if they are related I have to have them sign for it. My own son had to sign off for BC he needed. I am in California.
Besides obama can just say no one gets it, he can seal it or maybe it is sealed as a adoption BC would be. His original would have amendments on it if any adoption was recorded.
Mitchell Langbert says the wording is not what Hawaii says it is anyway. I can’t remember what he said but it is on his blog. His thoughts are as important as anyone else in my mind. There are so many theories going around. /wink
I agree with you on the fact that this original posting was incorrect in stating the purpose of this bill, H.R.985. Why would FreeRepublic allow it to be tacked on to the “Front Page News?”
To me, there is enough true facts out there supporting the argument that Obama should legally have to show his birth certificate to remain in Office. There’s no reason to have to invent this kind of agitation by reporting an untrue story in their headlines.
Whether the story is true or false, Obama needs to provide his original birth certificate to prove that he’s eligible to serve as President. The courts must REQUIRE that he do so.
Note that Obama is spending an enormous amount of legal fees in keeping his original birth certificate hidden.
I agree with you that he needs to show his birth certificate and that all the money he has spent in legal fees to block doing so spells out that he has something to hide.
However, when someone quotes this story that the government is trying to pass legislation to protect Obama, and it is a false story, it seems to weaken the case of the “Birthers” as to their own facts. I would just like to see the facts come out and not some wild stories.
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!
I got an email alert regarding this story from WND and now the story is gone from their website and the link is dead. Strange. Then I googled HR985 and it shows this bill is dead and was introduced in 2007. I wonder why only now is it being reported.
In any case, BO is an illegal impostor and needs to be exposed!
Because he is a self-absorbed narcissist. He also exhibits anti-social behavior. He knows he has the dollars of George Soros behind him so has nothing to worry about. About the only entity that could compete with George Soros’ dollars is the US Government, and at this point, that doesn’t look promising.
Here is what I really want to know; What is the protocol to prove citizenship in order to qualify for POTUS candidacy? It MUST be published SOMEWHERE! I simply can’t imagine that they just take you at your word. That would be insane. Therefore, the must be some kind of checks and balances in place. Yet nobody has come forth with that bit of information. You would think that at least ONE attorney would request documentation of the necessary protocol.
My suspicion is he also got special “entitlements” for being a black, non-citizen student when he was in college and that is why his college records are sealed. I can almost guarantee that his college applications show that he is a non-citizen.
I have heard some of the conservative talking heads argue that you must be an american citizen to be a US Senator and BO was a Senator so he must be a citizen. Ok, I’ll buy that. So show me the documentation he used to qualify as a Senator! Good Lord, it has to be considered a matter of public record. What did he use to prove citizenship to become Senator? It just doesn’t add up folks!
I can only hope that due to the gravity of the situation, they don’t want to touch it without concrete proof. I am hoping that they are building a concrete case and are biding their time, letting The Great One believe he is home free, until the time is right to pounce.
My logic is this:
1) There are far too many suspicious Americans, with good cause, to just ignore the issue.
2) If the common people have enough sense to see the writing on the wall and recognize the magnitude of this situation, I HAVE to believe that the republicans and conservative heads see it as well.
3) An accusation of this magnitude is NOT to be taken lightly. There must be concrete proof, beyond the shadow of doubt, that he is NOT a US citizen.
Based on the above, if the republicans and conservative talking heads are just looking the other way because they don’t see it as being important or simply don’t want to stir the pot, then we are in serous trouble. We are no longer a republic or democracy but rather a corrupt dictatorship no different than Iraq was before Saddam was removed from power.
Perhaps the folks who are not making any wave truly believe he is a citizen, in spite of the hundreds of thousands who don’t believe he is.
So, by what logical reason would the Republicans avoid this issue? What holds them in check, when they should be acting like the balance?
The are afraid the 0media and their leftist friends will make fun of them.
If it hasn't occurred to you yet, we the people are no longer the soveriengs because the subpreme court Roberts court has place their stamp of acceptance upon a man they allowed to ignore his repsonsibility to we the people to prove he was eligible for the office. The criminal judges and puking courts have removed our wsovereignty by merely telling various folks thay will not be granted standing to demand the candidate prove his eligibility. The Constitutional contract has been abrogated and the Constitutional Republic is no more. It has been stealthily replaced with aq federal oligarchy ... and cowardly Republicans have enabled this destruction of the Republic.
I just went to the www.senate.gov website and found this link to the current bill H.R.985:
Per this page: Latest Major Action: 4/1/2009 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
As I read the bill, it sounds like it is to protect journalist. Maybe I missed something, but I don’t think this is legislation to protect Obama. Have you read the bill?
“birther” haters, and Obama lovers.
“We prefer to be called `Republicans’”.
Colon Bowel and the rest of the GOP