Posted on 05/30/2009 9:42:04 PM PDT by LibWhacker
Published on Monday, May 25, 2009 9:15 PM AKDT In answering this question, it is important to assert the question does not originate with me, lest someone out there think that I am bringing some new doctrine out to bolster the political climate. But as the study of Bible prophecy includes verbiage as to the behavior of the one called “that Wicked” by Paul in II Thessalonians, it is not only a legitimate question to ask, but also one to answer.
While the word “homosexual” is not in the Bible, the behavior of those who practice homosexuality, and God’s estimation of them, very definitely is. When the word came into existence I cannot tell you, but what we can say for sure is that when Noah Webster published his first dictionary in 1828, it was not included. This means that homosexuality is a modern word invented to replace the word Noah Webster did include, sodomy, defined as a crime against nature. This is historical revisionism in action.
Sodomy is defined in scripture by two things, the first being that of where it began: Sodom. In Genesis 13:13 we have the first mention of the men of Sodom, pronouncing that they “were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.” Their saga is continued in chapters 18 and 19 with their sin being so great that not only does God say that it “is very grievous,” but he himself comes down to destroy them with fire, the rubble of which still stands as a warning to us today.
While the Genesis account does not graphically describe their sin, leading some to deny it as being the same as homosexuality, their sin is obviously just that by how it is described: lying with mankind as with womankind. What other conclusion can be reached when they want to “know” the men who were in Lot’s house, the same word the Bible uses in Genesis 4 in relation to the conception of Cain? And that Lot himself understood their intentions is clear; not only did he call such behavior wicked, but he also offered his virgin daughters as substitutes, which the men of Sodom refused.
And one more thing: Sodomy is the only sin for which God came down from heaven to destroy. Though God dealt with many other sins in various ways, there is no other for which he came down from heaven to verify and destroy. In the New Testament, sodomy is declared to be “against nature.” And of the men, Paul in Romans 1 says they leave “the natural use of the woman....” In effect, there is no greater sin against God than to reject how he made you, and no greater sin against women than to reject how God made them.
But will the Antichrist be a homosexual? Having seen what the Bible says of sodomy, we have no further to look than the book of Daniel, chapter 11 to find our answer. It says, “Neither shall he [Antichrist] regard... the desire of women....” As I said at the onset, I am not the first to draw attention to this, but the verbiage is clear.
From a lost perspective, the reason sex sells, pornography is profitable, and prostitution is “the world’s oldest profession” is mankind’s desire of women. From Christianity’s position, it is part of the glue for the bond of marriage and the propagation of a godly heritage. But homosexuality does not regard this — in their unbridled lusts they burn for their own gender.
But consider this: The time is ripe for such a leader. Indeed, it should not be surprising that the one who is against everything Biblical and Christian should be a partaker of so great a sin; there is no greater way to reject the Creator than to reject your gender and his design for it. And at what other time have we seen such perversion come out of the closets onto our streets, threatening violence if we do not accept their ways?
Is it any wonder that Revelation 13 says that this same Antichrist will make war with the saints of the tribulation, and overcome them? Are they not now readying themselves to make it illegal to “offend” them in any way, calling it hatred to preach against their sin? Is it because they love us? The time is ripe for such a man.
But remember that sodomy is the one sin that God left heaven and came to earth to destroy. Could it be that this will be the predominate sin on earth when Christ descends from the clouds to fight against the armies of wickedness? And will it be just a coincidence that the Antichrist will be the very first occupant of the lake of fire, tasting eternal death 1,000 years before even the devil himself?
You be the judge.
Great article and right on too. I also believe that he will be a Muslim (at heart if not openly) and that he will have Jewish blood. There is scripture on that one.
Food for thought. I believe that he is on the right track.
More likely, he’ll be Kenyan...
The passage in daniel Chapter 11 basically says that a the Antichrist will have no regard for the desire of women.
This could mean a number of things. One it could mean that he simply will not make the pursuit of women an interest in his life. Or two it could mean that he could possibly be a homosexual. So it’s very possible that he could be a homosexual but the verse does not specifically say.
There certainly is no verse that says specifically that he will be a homosexual.
What we really need to keep in mind is that the Antichrist really is most concerned about obtaining power, and drawing the world to worshiping him, rather than God.
There are a number of verses that talk about that subject, and that is what we really should be concerning ourselves with.
Studying the Antichrist is an interesting subject and that outside a of the Bible would leave some conjecture about how he will bring about the world government or as some would say the New World order.
As a Christian is most important to focus on getting the gospel out so that people can be saved, and the rise of the Antichrist the power really won’t matter.
Yes!!!
“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the rainbow flag and carrying a pink swastika.” LFoD
Relax. The Anti-Christ won’t need a teleprompter.
The third comment is funny. (about the methane lake.)
Only Jews and Christians believe homosexuality is sinful.
Not me....but yes, I know what you mean.
Anyone who is thoroughly wicked....I mean THOROUGHLY....will also be evil in their sex life. So will the anti-Christ be sexually perverted? Of course. Have past antichrist -types been perverted? Yes. Think of Hitler....was he homosexual? We don’t really know....we do know practically all of his close associates were...and it is known Hitler was very sexually twisted. (4 of his 5 girlfriends committed suicide too...).
Today, N. Korea’s dictator—who officially sets himself up as a kind of god there—is known as being extremely sexually perverted. A “homosexual” I don’t know—but what does that matter? Sexual perversion of various kinds—and evil—go hand in hand.
No...
More likely, he’ll be Kenyan...
Actually, some show I saw about the coming of the anti-Christ described him as African. Another show described the anti-Christ as an african woman. I wish I could remember the specific shows, maybe one of them had something to do with Nostradamus. Anyway, since Kenya is in Africa...
We don’t know the ‘day or hour’ but we will know the season.
Sodomy is an English word derivative, obviously, from the biblical story of Sodom & Gomorrah (Genesis 19).
Biblically speaking it’s fair to say it refers to homosexual sex, however, it has a long history in English law and tradition too—and there it refers to any non-reproductive sexual act.
“As a Christian is most important to focus on getting the gospel out so that people can be saved, and the rise of the Antichrist the power really won’t matter.”
Your’s was a very intelligent post, but I must take issue with your last statement.
Those who wish to relegate the prophetic portions of the Bible to a status of “secondary importance” should remember that passages dealing with end times events are also part of the Gospel - they are part of the body of Jesus teaching that he commanded be taught to the whole world.
Soteriology does not trump eschatology and, in fact, soteriology doesn’t make sense without eschatology.
Jesus as Savior does not make sense if he is not also, “returning in like manner” to “judge the quick and the dead.” And if he is returning, then any disciple will naturally want to know when it will be, and “what will be the sign of the times.”
That’s a joke right?
You refer to a Jewish belief, that homosexuality is sinful??
Have you seen Hollywood recently?
Hollywood is secretly Muslim perhaps? Baptist?
Catholic?
Mormon?
“Only Jews and Christians believe homosexuality is sinful.”
That’s simply not true.
How did I know that “larrysinclairslover” made it to the keyword list before I clicked on this thread? Some what rhetorical....
Yes, he WAS! The anti-Christ was Nero.
Actually that is very incorrect. Modern and traditional Hinduism and Buddhism also consider homosexual behavior as wrong...(though of course Eastern concepts of right and wrong itself are different than Judeo-Christian ones). The Dali Lama for example has gotten himself in big trouble for not approving of the American "new age" popular acceptance of homosexuality...
Also, traditional Islam frowns on adult homosexual actions....though in practice Islamic cultures have often not followed that. Notice I said "adult" as apparently the Koran and other sources never condemned homosexual pedophilia...hence that has been a long standing problem in traditional Islamic cultures.
Practically all traditional long standing religions didn't approve of homosexual actions--primarily due to the social results (fewer children=dying society, see "Europe"). Even the ancient pagan Greeks--who tolerated and at times glorified homosexual sex--did so in a way differently than liberals today. It was considered a man's duty to have a wife and family--if he diddled with the boys on the side--or while he was off fighting in war somewhere, that was seen as OK--but as a citizen a wife and kids were expected as well... It's fair to say they didn't understand homosexual as a kind of "3rd sex" as popular culture does today.
Show me any people group where survival over the long term was important--I don't care what their religion is--and I'll show you a group that does not accept homosexuality.
I certainly do agree with your statement, eschatology is very important, however; the fact that Christ is returning to establish his kingdom is in my opinion more for those who are already saved, it most certainly is the icing on the cake, but it's not the cake. We as saved and believing Christians should look forward to the day when Christ returns. But because of our love for our fellow man, making sure that they hear the Gospel and accept Christ as their savior will keep them out of Hell, and secondarily, they will become part of the new Kingdom which is coming, and share its blessings.
Thank you for your thoughtful post.
Regards.
People use vs 32 as an excuse not to do the work that studying prophecy requires. Also, they are fearful of what is coming. The funny thing is, I have more peace KNOWING what is going to happen, then when I was in the dark. As I watch the signs all around me today, I know that my savior is about to call me up yonder and then He will ride!! Jesus will get His rightful place as King of Kings and ALL will acknowledge Him. (this includes the lefties and Obama)
Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!!
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Keep your dirty mouth for your mother.
But O’s a tri-sexual...
“Hindu temples in many parts of India had both women and boy prostitutes. In the fourteenth century, the Chinese found homosexual Tibetan religious rites practiced at the court of a Mongol emperor. In Sri Lanka through this century, Buddhist worship of the goddess Pattini has involved priests dressed as women, and the consort of the goddess is symbolically castrated.”
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/sexuality/ho0003.html
The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=246
Hollywood is full of liberals - that’s their religion.
When Google Ad Sense goes awry, lol. They can’t “sense” context.
Could you help me out on this one? I have heard this before but am at a loss to verify it. Thanks.
Biology believes homosexuality is wrong - in a very unforgiving way.
Sure, after throwing in enough ellipses this guy can convince himself of whatever he wants. The parallel structure is, however, evident in the English:
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
The "desire" of women is that which women desire or find beautiful - an object of worship or affection to women.
What's the desire of women? Beauty, youth, wealth/security, motherhood? Well whatever it is, he doesn't give a rat's @ss; he is completely focused on himself (sound familiar?).
If it's the desire of idiot liberal women, though, the goddess in question would be Michelle. Too funny. Even better if she's the representation of Ashtoret, because that goes along way in explaining why that particular goddess is ID'd in the Bible as an abomination.
(Goddess of the Zidonians>>> Zidon = hunting>>> Diana = goddess of hunting>>> Diana = Artemis)
The oldest representations of Artemis in Greek Archaic art portray her as Potnia Theron ("Queen of the Beasts"): a winged goddess holding a stag and leopard in her hands, or sometimes a leopard and a lion. This winged Artemis lingered in ex-votos as Artemis Orthia, with a sanctuary close by Sparta.
In Greek classical art she is usually portrayed as a maiden huntress clothed in a girl's short skirt,[20] with hunting boots, a quiver, a bow[21] and arrows. Often she is shown in the shooting pose, and is accompanied by a hunting dog or stag. Her darker side is revealed in some vase paintings, where she is shown as the death-bringing goddess whose arrows fell young maidens and women, such as the daughters of Niobe
“Neither shall he [Antichrist] regard... the desire of women....”
To me this shows that he will be a muslim. They have no regard for the desires of women.
Fulfilled prophecy encourages our faith by reminding us of God's faithfulness in the past. The Olivet Discourse and Revelation consist almost entirely of fulfilled prophecy, with the exception of the final resurrection of the dead. Wise Christians shape the future through faith, courage, obedience, growing in wisdom, and raising children with the goal of surpassing us in godliness and achievement.
Foolish Christians try to predict the future. They play "pin the name on the antichrist," draw vivid imaginary maps of the future, and bring reproach upon the name of Christ with an unending series of pompous pronouncements that never materialize.
Gypsy fortune tellers never have their own fortunes told. They know, from frequent contact with their customers, that this kind of obsession with "things to come"[1] is an addictive poison. Those who seek to practice divination -- even if they use God's Word as their steaming entrails or ouija board -- are fearful, fatalistic, and impotent. It's a losers game, and the wise refuse to play.
Believing Jewish people formed the core of the early church. Jewish people have been getting saved (becoming Christians) throughout all of church history. In fact, the founding pastor of my church is Jewish.
However, the bottom line remains. Those who think it's safe to deny Jesus Christ are sadly, and eternally, wrong.
I dunno.
Is Oboma Gay?
Yeah, Fish Hawk, good going on this one! Jesus was a Jew, remember?
Learned two new words today.
Thanks :)
You use the term “Jewish blood.”
Do you believe there is such a thing as “Jewish blood?” What does it look like? Do converts to Judaism miraculously get an infusion of “Jewish blood”?
Do you use the term “Christian blood” when referring to someone’s Christian lineage? Do you say that Jwish converts to Christianity have “Jewish blood”? I think you do. “Do you forever after say that Christian converts to Judaism have “Christian blood”?
Please note: The early Christians were all Jews, so they and all their progency have “Jewish blood.”
Know thyself.
I couldn't agree more, amen..
Those who believe in God already know the answer. Those who believe in evolution and natural selection should ask themselves why there's not a single surviving culture that has approved of homosexuality. It's almost like sexual abberations interfere with what matters to a civilization's survival.
I didn't know that obama had Jewish blood.
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