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Bomb Threat on Air France Flight
Momento 24 ^ | May 27, 2009

Posted on 06/02/2009 7:51:15 PM PDT by brytlea

The airport safety delayed an Air France flight this evening before departring for Paris immediately after the company received a bomb threat over the phone at the airport of Ezeiza.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airfrance; bomb; planecrash; tm; trop
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To: brytlea
I'm not into all the conspiracy theories. I think if it was terrorism and "they" find out it will be reported as such.

The Obama Administration is not going to participate in a cover up of terrorism. What's the real upside? That it will help protect his "making friends with Muslims" idea? It's a crappy idea that even he doesn't really buy. It's a sop to the moonbats. A terrorist incident will allow him a graceful out of that moronic idea.

If he tries to cover it up, he's complicit after the fact in a terrorist incident, and he has no reason to trust that the governments of France or Brazil or any of the other countries with citizens involved will willingly participate in the coverup should they learn that it was terrorism.

The Obama Administration will also have no guarantees that the terrorists involved would not claim the plane and produce proof (on the internet) that they did it.

So, if it was terrorism, we'll know as soon as "they" know.

It may have been terrorism, but I don't think it's likely for a few reasons. For one, nobody claimed credit, which makes for pointless terrorism. Two, it blew up over the ocean, where no television crews could film it and there was no collatoral damage of the wreckage slamming into a city. Again, not very terroristy.

Lastly, it was Brazil and France. Not out of the question, but neither are very likely terrorist targets these days, when the world's the terrorist's oyster.

So, I'm guessing no terrorism. Something went crappy with the plane. Of course, I realize this will just mark me as in on the conspiracy, but I'm OK with that.

51 posted on 06/02/2009 8:29:44 PM PDT by dead
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To: hercuroc

Copied and pasted from the National Weather Service:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream//tropics/itcz.htm


52 posted on 06/02/2009 8:30:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: 2harddrive

The commuter plane in Buffalo didn’t have a mayday call.

When planes are in trouble, sending out maydays are the last thing the pilot is worried about. They are panicking trying to save the plane.


53 posted on 06/02/2009 8:32:00 PM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Beaten Valve
If it was a bomb, some group would have already claimed responsibility for it by now.

How do you know that they didn't? Do you trust the press to report it?

54 posted on 06/02/2009 8:32:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Rebelbase

Who loves you.Pray.(((((Hugs))))


55 posted on 06/02/2009 8:32:21 PM PDT by fatima (Pray for my son in law now.I beleive in your prayers.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Hurricanes are ‘born’ from tropical depressions North of the Equator and along the Equator off the coast of Africa. Try to get your geography right, at least!


56 posted on 06/02/2009 8:33:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
They always take credit.

Not immediately after 9/11.

57 posted on 06/02/2009 8:33:48 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: topher
I am not sure what resources France has in this regards,

Going back to Cousteau, the French have all been pretty cutting edge with the dive stuff. They're really into deep sea for some Frenchie reason. They'll have very good submersibles available.

58 posted on 06/02/2009 8:34:31 PM PDT by dead
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Photobucket Satellite pic of the the Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone.Notice the line of clouds along the Equators. Those are all thunderstorms. Air France had to cross that line.
59 posted on 06/02/2009 8:35:15 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: MHGinTN

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertropical_convergence_zone[/url]


60 posted on 06/02/2009 8:36:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: All

[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/01/air-france-crash-air-turbulence[/url]


61 posted on 06/02/2009 8:38:10 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: All

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/01/air-france-crash-air-turbulence

Sorry I am still getting a hand of this


62 posted on 06/02/2009 8:40:49 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: brytlea

This is fishy. No mayday, just disappears. I know lightning strikes hit planes all the time. I think they are even tracked by the FAA.

Does anyone know if there are documented cases of large planes actually being brought down by lightning strikes?


63 posted on 06/02/2009 8:40:53 PM PDT by webschooner
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To: rbosque

On one of the pilot message boards they explained how the planes have the capability to dissipate lightening strikes and didn’t think turbulance could take down the plane either.

With the wreckage over miles you have to wonder about if it blew up as there was no May Day.


64 posted on 06/02/2009 8:41:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

So planes must be going down all the time in the Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone then, right?


65 posted on 06/02/2009 8:43:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Sarah Barracuda
hmmm, makes ya wonder if perhaps the Air France flight that crashed yesterday might have been brought down by a bomb..of course, if that is the case, the media will NEVER report it

If TV hadn't caught the second plane hit the World Trade Center on 9-11-01 we would all still be believing that a white middle aged pilot had lost control or had a nervous breakdown or was depressed or it was really the center fuel tanks (over Long Island), bla, bla, bla... We will never know the truth as to what happened to this plane. If they find the black box, it will be inconclusive. If they don't, it will be "sparks" (thanks to John Bellucci). If it was a terrorist act, we'll never know...

66 posted on 06/02/2009 8:43:33 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: brytlea
I don't think there is anyway it was lightening. Lightening strikes are frequent, they usually look like little burn or weld marks on the aluminum fuselage. The energy from the strike is discharged through static wicks located on flight control trailing edges and wing tip trailing edges. According to the following article, the last plane downed by lightening was in 1967.

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae568.cfm

I wonder why the article was scrubbed from the momento24 site?

67 posted on 06/02/2009 8:44:13 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: brytlea

I am flying out Thursday cross country...prayers for a safe go and back(vacation with the family)..
God bless all those on that doomed flight and thier loved ones left behind to grief...


68 posted on 06/02/2009 8:44:25 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: 2harddrive

It sure could and our stupid DoD was so quick to say it was terrorism — they had not even found the wreckage when they made that statement.


69 posted on 06/02/2009 8:44:38 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: brytlea

bump for later


70 posted on 06/02/2009 8:46:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: PhiKapMom
from Fox News:

Investigators have few clues to help explain what brought the Airbus A330 down. The crew made no distress call before the crash, but the plane's system sent an automatic message just before it disappeared, reporting lost cabin pressure and electrical failure.

71 posted on 06/02/2009 8:48:12 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I don’t think so because many pilots pass that point. Maybe it was just bad luck of Air France. Maybe the FAA would have records of any downed planes in that area.Again, we need the flight data recorder.


72 posted on 06/02/2009 8:48:23 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: dead

Clinton had every reason in the world to cover-up TWA 800 in ‘96. Obama doesn’t have any reason to do it now, especially with a flight that didn’t even originate in the United States.

All he needs to do is say nothing before his big speech. Like he did with the muslim who gunned down two of his soldiers in Little Rock yesterday. The topic of islamic terrorism is off the table this week.


73 posted on 06/02/2009 8:48:47 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: sonofstrangelove
Go here and look at the maps of the basins ... the plane took off from South America, if that will help.
74 posted on 06/02/2009 8:49:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: brytlea

hmm


75 posted on 06/02/2009 8:49:18 PM PDT by RDTF ("I'm pretty sure this is a 2 man job once the shooting starts")
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To: dead

Hang on, though.

“President Nicolas Sarkozy has formally opened a French military base in the United Arab Emirates, France’s first permanent base in the Gulf.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8067600.stm


76 posted on 06/02/2009 8:50:46 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Rebelbase
Of interest.http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4427978/
77 posted on 06/02/2009 8:53:05 PM PDT by fatima (Pray for my son in law now.I beleive in your prayers.)
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To: MHGinTN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclogenesis


78 posted on 06/02/2009 8:53:19 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: dandiegirl

Exactly.


79 posted on 06/02/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: hercuroc

Does make you wonder when you see how far the debris field was. They were so quick to rule out terrorism that it made me think terrorism. Doubt if we ever get the facts.

Have first hand experience with cover-up having been at the OU football when the ‘lone suicide bomber’ supposedly blew himself up. He had enough explosives in his apartment and car to blow up five city blocks and it took around 18 trips to the bomb disposal area and when they blew it up all my windows in the house rattled and I am five miles away. BUT there was no evidence of terrorist connection even though his roommate was Pakistani and he spend months in Pakistan and looked like a Muslim terrorist with his beard according to authorities who found his suicide note on his computer three weeks after it happened. All our over active imagination. Yeah right!


80 posted on 06/02/2009 8:56:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: PhiKapMom

It would be interesting if they found the black box.


81 posted on 06/02/2009 8:56:34 PM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: rbosque

They have to find the flight data recorder. It has the answers.


82 posted on 06/02/2009 9:00:12 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Jet Jaguar
At least Drudge is on it.

Matt Drudge is ALWAYS on it. If the MSM wasn't smoking crack and believing ALL news was about their chosen one (or wording their articles to meet the anti-conservative, pro-whatever the chosen one wants pandered to the public that day), they'd be the ones telling us this news. They are inept and incapable of being trustworthy news sources. Kudos once again to Drudge.

83 posted on 06/02/2009 9:00:33 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MHGinTN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane


84 posted on 06/02/2009 9:03:09 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

I hope they find it.


85 posted on 06/02/2009 9:12:06 PM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: brytlea

With the way he’s been acting lately, I wouldn’t be surprised if Barry blamed the Joooooooooooz!


86 posted on 06/02/2009 9:13:17 PM PDT by Scarchin (Obamanation = I feel like I'm stuck in a car with a drunk driver!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
if that is the case, the media will NEVER report it

The media will blame global warming for causing the thunderstorms that supposedly took down the plane.

87 posted on 06/02/2009 9:15:07 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: brytlea

The bomb threat was made against the same airline (AF) but in a different city (Buenos Aires, Argentina). I am guessing they were checking the airline’s response to the threat without giving away the actual location of their planned operation (Rio).


88 posted on 06/02/2009 9:18:06 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: rbosque

It sure would. Read an article that said a French small sub was on the way which means it could go down to recover it.


89 posted on 06/02/2009 9:18:40 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“It was a victim of bad weather. The place where Air France was over the Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone. The Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), appears as a band of clouds, usually thunderstorms, that circle the globe near the equator. The solid band of clouds may extend for many hundreds of miles and is sometimes broken into smaller line segments. The ITCZ follows the sun in that the position varies seasonally. It moves north in the northern summer and south in the northern winter. Right now the sun is over the equator causing this bad weather. This is the area where hurricanes are born.”
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Yes Absolutely!

Yet, strange why a commercial aircraft would transverse this fully known zone of super bad weather, as other aircraft have done daily, and fall from the sky, without even a peep from the pilots.

I guess that we’ll have to wait on the black-box recovey to realy know - as much as our government wants us to know!

There will be cover-up!


90 posted on 06/02/2009 9:20:39 PM PDT by aShepard ("OK Class: repeat after me: "BUSH BAD- OBAMA SAVIOR OF MANKIND")
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To: rbosque

They will. . France has asked the US military to use its network of spy satellites and listening stations to help find an Air France jet that disappeared over the Atlantic, defence ministry officials said Monday.


91 posted on 06/02/2009 9:23:56 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: PhiKapMom
Does make you wonder when you see how far the debris field was.

Yes, it does. I saw somewhere that there are two debris fields about 35-40 miles apart. That pattern suggests the possibility of two aircraft and thus a mid-air collision.

Has anyone heard if ships are at the debris fields yet?

92 posted on 06/02/2009 9:24:35 PM PDT by zot
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To: brytlea

Obviously George Bush and a his Jewish Banker friends planted this bomb to garner support for continued violence against Muslims....


93 posted on 06/02/2009 9:25:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: aShepard

I think we can trust the French and Brazilians to not cover it up.

Leastwise more than we can trust our own government.


94 posted on 06/02/2009 9:25:25 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 134 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: aShepard

It was bad luck that they were hit by lightning in a very sensitive area Again, we need the flight data recorder because everything is just speculation.


95 posted on 06/02/2009 9:27:30 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: DJ MacWoW
Of course the first thing my Hubby asked me was “Has anyone taken credit yet?”

Let's think about this, though. Are there any logical reasons why a terrorist group would not want to be discovered? At least immediately?

For a bomb to go off on an airplane precisely where and when it did would be the perfect crime if remaining hidden, or under the radar so to speak, was the point.

If a group were well funded and networked enough, I could very well see a series of frightening "mishaps" occuring without sufficient explanation, and then the group coming out much later saying: "we did all this, and you had no idea." That would be much more frightening.

Also, a couple years ago, wasn't there talk of them wanting to do something like this to an aircraft in the Atlantic?

To be sure, it's not likely terrorism. But, as others mentioned, when terrorism is ruled out before they even know what happened, I get skeptical.
96 posted on 06/02/2009 9:33:14 PM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: mike182d

I agree.


97 posted on 06/02/2009 9:35:38 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: conservative cat
"I also thought I read that the U.S. had been asked for help. I don’t know what King Zero’s response was, though."

It's reported that he apologized, thanked islam, and then sent a check for 35 billion dollars.
98 posted on 06/02/2009 9:35:40 PM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: rbosque

I agree. The plane was said to be flying through bad turbulence. Planes always do that. And that the thunderheads were extremely large around the plane. As if planes haven’t flown through large thunderheads with lightning before. If they were so vulnerable, there would be a lot more disappearing aircraft over the oceans. I flew from LA to Syndney once and we went over a cyclone near Fiji. It was rough with lightning all around. And that was 25 yrs ago. I would think the technology is much better now.


99 posted on 06/02/2009 9:40:24 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: brytlea

In the slight chance it was terrorism, the only way we’ll know is if it’s determined by France or another country, or from a group taking responsibility.

Otherwise, our government won’t ‘go there’ - terrorists aren’t the bad guys anymore. /s.


100 posted on 06/02/2009 9:52:13 PM PDT by drierice
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