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Liz Cheney: Obama speech was 'naive'
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Posted on 06/04/2009 7:40:49 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Liz Cheney: Obama speech was 'naive' @ 10:13 am by Eric Zimmermann

Obama's speech was "naive" and engaged in "moral relativism," says Liz Cheney.

Appearing on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Cheney said Obama should have taken a harder line with Iran.

"I was troubled by the sort of extent to which i heard moral relativism," she said. "I heard the president talk about Iran as though we've done some bad things to Iran and they've done some bad things to us, but now we just need to really get together here to go forward."

Instead, Cheney says the President should have "acknowledg[ed] the fact that Iran is the world's largest terrorist sponsoring state, that they really do have these hegemonic ambitions for the region."

She added: "The notion that we just simply have mutual interests here strikes me as a little bit naive."

Video below, followed by the section of Obama's speech dealing with Iran:

(Excerpt) Read more at briefingroom.thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoegypt; bhovisit; lizcheney; muslimworld; naive
Touche!
1 posted on 06/04/2009 7:40:49 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Addressing a religion, just downright odd.


2 posted on 06/04/2009 7:43:08 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, you surrender your rights.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I really really really like her.


3 posted on 06/04/2009 7:43:25 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Sub-Driver
Palin-Cheney 2012...

And get the visqueen to cover you up as liberal heads explode!!!!

4 posted on 06/04/2009 7:44:07 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's amazing that the GOPers with the most balls, are women.

Palin/Cheney 2010 or Cheney/Palin 2010.

5 posted on 06/04/2009 7:45:15 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t believe he is that “naive”. I do believe he knows exactly what he is doing and it’s not in the best interest of the American people.


6 posted on 06/04/2009 7:45:16 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Pistolshot
It's amazing that the GOPers with the most balls, are women.

Nail on the head.
7 posted on 06/04/2009 7:45:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: CheneyChick
Me too!!!

I find it very compelling that she is becoming one of the rational and BRAVE voices of our party....keep it up Liz!

I also have to say I went back and read the speech again this hour in its entirety. I am deeply disturbed by it; most alarming to me is Obama’s pattern once again of using I...I...I..as if he is the sole moral compass by which the world must navigate. Scary stuff.

8 posted on 06/04/2009 7:46:53 AM PDT by housedeep
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To: Pistolshot

Sarah-Liz 2012

why are you putting 2010?? something I don’t know?


9 posted on 06/04/2009 7:47:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: housedeep

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026426.php

Platitudes and naivete: Obama’s Cairo speech

Here is the text as prepared for delivery, provided by the White House, via USA Today, June 4 — with comments interspersed:

I am honored to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by two remarkable institutions. For over a thousand years, Al-Azhar has stood as a beacon of Islamic learning,

...whose Grand Sheikh, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, has given his approval — on Islamic grounds — to suicide bombing.

and for over a century, Cairo University has been a source of Egypt’s advancement. Together, you represent the harmony between tradition and progress. I am grateful for your hospitality, and the hospitality of the people of Egypt. I am also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American people, and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country: assalaamu alaykum.

According to Islamic law, a Muslim may only extend this greeting — Peace be upon you — to a fellow Muslim. To a non-Muslim he is to say, “Peace be upon those who are rightly guided,” i.e., Peace be upon the Muslims. Islamic law is silent about what Muslims must do when naive non-Muslim Islamophilic Presidents offer the greeting to Muslims.


10 posted on 06/04/2009 7:50:33 AM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sort of? A bit naive?

The soft peddle is so weak. This was surrender and abject pacifist stupidity.

Iran has stated that its goal is to reverse the verdict of world war II.

11 posted on 06/04/2009 7:51:48 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Sub-Driver
this is just odd, but I am detecting a pattern here. rather than having any original thoughts or ideas of his own, he seems to be charting a bizarre philosophical course around the issues by simply opposing everything that George Bush ever did. at least to begin with. very frequently, he is (embarrassingly) forced to embrace the former bush policies that he spent the entire election cycle condemning.

it just isn't a winning strategy.

12 posted on 06/04/2009 7:51:58 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://www.stink-eye.net)
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To: roses of sharon

The world is seeing the spinelessness and shiftiness of this man.


13 posted on 06/04/2009 7:52:41 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Sub-Driver
Luv that Liz (hey, there's a bumper sticker for ya).

Have we heard Meghan McStain's comments on the speech? Did it go something like, "Uhhhhhhh....yeah, like, what she said....and stuff"

??

14 posted on 06/04/2009 7:54:24 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I was troubled by the sort of extent to which i heard moral relativism...(Liz Cheney)

Well, that now is the ‘code’ which we live by. The Rule of Laws became ‘whims’. So you shouldn’t be surprised.


15 posted on 06/04/2009 7:55:59 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: Pistolshot

I noticed that too. The ladies in the conservative movement are good looking and very inteligent. I haven’t noticed any air heads.


16 posted on 06/04/2009 8:01:04 AM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Sub-Driver

I am liking Liz more and more. She is a REAL WOMAN.


17 posted on 06/04/2009 8:03:06 AM PDT by Rannug
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To: taildragger

AMEN to that!


18 posted on 06/04/2009 8:03:22 AM PDT by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: Rannug

Yup. A conservative star on the rise.


19 posted on 06/04/2009 8:06:54 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: Sub-Driver

Cheney is a rising star.

Sharp mind and articulate.


20 posted on 06/04/2009 8:09:34 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (I once had an awkward moment just to see how it felt.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I was troubled by the sort of extent to which i heard moral relativism," she said. "I heard the president talk about Iran as though we've done some bad things to Iran and they've done some bad things to us, but now we just need to really get together here to go forward."

She is exactly right.

21 posted on 06/04/2009 8:18:20 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama ostrich
22 posted on 06/04/2009 8:29:16 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Sub-Driver
As I listened to that speech I kept hearing the community organizer approach. "Look, we have both been dissing each other and neither of us has clean hands. Let's all sit down and talk things out together. And let's march together hand in hand towards a newer, better future."

Moral equivalence, ignoring real irreconcilible differences, ignoring the nature of conflict, and so on... He is remarkably ignorant.

23 posted on 06/04/2009 8:32:37 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: CheneyChick

Naive yes but I think that it follows the exact path that he is using within America to weaken us around the world.

What American’s are only beginning to see is how much the world see him as clueless and weak and pay no attention to whatever he say or does except to take advantage of of this arrogant little boy in the candy store.


24 posted on 06/04/2009 8:43:00 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Pistolshot
It's amazing that the GOPers with the most balls, are women.

Women have the most to lose under a totalitarian Khalifat. That could motivate some who truly understand what is going on.


25 posted on 06/04/2009 8:44:49 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I agree with that.


26 posted on 06/04/2009 8:45:34 AM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: Pistolshot
It's amazing that the GOPers with the most balls, are women.

That is telling it like it is. She has the gray matter to back it up.

27 posted on 06/04/2009 8:50:29 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Sub-Driver
No I'm still Darth Cheney. She'll have to get her own label.


28 posted on 06/04/2009 8:50:57 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: JohnBrowdie

A retarded president can only be as good as his teleprompter.


29 posted on 06/04/2009 8:53:40 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: GeronL
why are you putting 2010?? something I don’t know?

Just in a hurry to kick TOTUS out.

30 posted on 06/04/2009 9:34:58 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: CheneyChick
I really really really like her.

Ditto. I like her better than her husband. Who seems to not get the differences about marriage and personal freedom...and is practicing moral equivalency for 'gay rights'

31 posted on 06/04/2009 11:02:11 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

Liz is VP Cheney’s daughter.


32 posted on 06/04/2009 11:36:16 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Pistolshot

Funny how that is.


33 posted on 06/05/2009 7:17:07 PM PDT by Jenny217
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