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Bodies Found From Air France Plane Crash
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Posted on 06/06/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by traumer

Bodies from the Air France passenger plane that crashed in the Atlantic Ocean off Brazil have been found by search teams.

The news comes it was revealed the airliner sent out 24 automatic error messages in its final moments as its systems broke down one by one.

The head of the French agency probing the tragedy said signals from the jet before it disappeared showed its autopilot was not on.

Paul-Louis Arslanian said it was not clear if the autopilot had been switched off by the pilots or had stopped working because it received conflicting airspeed readings.

He said investigators were searching a zone of several hundred square miles in the Atlantic Ocean for the debris.

Plane manufacturer Airbus said an investigation found Air France Flight 447 had inconsistent readings from different instruments as it struggled in a massive thunderstorm.

The plane, with 228 people on board, disappeared early on Monday as it made its way from Rio de Janiero, heading to Paris.

The wreckage of the jet has not been found, despite days of intensive searching by air and sea.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airfrance; flight447; hijack; planecrash; tm
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To: rockinqsranch

No, the plane was sending automatic computer generated information on the anomalies.

The last communication mentioned was to air traffic control in Brazil about the thunderstorms.


61 posted on 06/06/2009 11:03:57 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Beelzebubba
"Wasn’t TWA 800 full up for a transatlantic flight?" Not at all. The range of the 747-100 is well over 8,000 miles. The flight from NY to Rome is about half that.
62 posted on 06/06/2009 11:08:24 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: zeebee

doubtful. Maybe a Friday night dump a year from now.


63 posted on 06/06/2009 11:10:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Beelzebubba
Wasn’t TWA 800 full up for a transatlantic flight?

Enough of the fuel tanks to get the airplane to Paris were. That isn't all the fuel tanks on the aircraft. The center tank was empty.

64 posted on 06/06/2009 11:12:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I can totally relate to your fear of flying experiences. I went through the same thing. I found that what was causing most of my anxiety was the thought of not being able to have any control of any events that might occur up there. Not being able to feel the ground underneath me, nor being able to see who was “driving” gave me a feeling of helplessness.

Prayer did help tremendously, and still does. I can handle mild turbulence, but when that thing starts jumping and shaking for more than 10 seconds, I immediately go into “Our Father” mode, and put my life in His hands. It it’s a long flight (more than 2 hours for me is long), I order a scotch on the rocks and pop a few benadryl. When I wake up on the other end, I thank the Lord for allowing me to live another day.

I also found that sitting in a window seat distracted me from fear, and I also enjoy seeing landscapes and trying to identify landmarks along the way. I’ve gotten pretty good at at! Of course, at night it’s a different story, but if the sky is clear, I can follow clusters of lights and identify some towns/cities along the way.


65 posted on 06/06/2009 11:15:52 AM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: zeebee
"A rifle shot could have caused the explosion and it would look like an O-ring failure.

As someone pointed out in an earlier post, the o-ring failure was not a unique or new phenomenon to the Challenger. Not only was NASA aware of it, but they also recognized the potential for catastrophic failure because of it.

Additionally, a "rifle-shot" placed exactly at the o-ring seam would be THE rifle shot in the history of rifle shots. I don't know if you've ever been to the Kennedy Space Center, but the closest one can get is about a mile. I don't think Carlos Hathcock could make that shot.

68 posted on 06/06/2009 11:20:15 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Carley

Thanks Carley, but are we on the same track here? I am writing about the day of the breaking news of the suspected crash (at the time it was suspected), (actually it was the first thread posted here at FR on the topic) there was a report that stated that the pilot was in conversation with persons at Air France at the time his communications abruptly ceased.

I am curious as to what that conversation was about. The news about the computer generated information came in later articles.


69 posted on 06/06/2009 11:25:01 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: river rat

i agree


70 posted on 06/06/2009 11:25:32 AM PDT by genghis
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To: zeebee

Frankly, since the TWA 800 shoot-down, the NTSB and other government agencies have lost all credibility in their reporting the cause and circumstance of major air carrier “accidents”/ disasters.


71 posted on 06/06/2009 11:26:48 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (I won't be happy until Jet-A is less than $2.00 a gallon)
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To: river rat
We STILL don’t know the truth about TWA 800.

George Stephanopolous who was in the White House at the time, called it a "shootdown." I'll take George's word for once.

72 posted on 06/06/2009 11:30:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: river rat

Too many witnesses in the TWA 800 to keep that one quiet, but they sure tried.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/twa.html


73 posted on 06/06/2009 11:32:39 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: traumer

The condition of the bodies may provide some additional information about when the plane broke up (i.e. at what altitude). Too late for these people, but hopefully more information will make it possible to determine what went wrong and prevent it from happening again.


74 posted on 06/06/2009 11:32:50 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Babalu
The thing about flying that scares me most is airplane poisoning.

One drop will kill you in a matter of seconds!

75 posted on 06/06/2009 11:36:35 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Babalu
I order a scotch on the rocks ....

That's me, too! Once on a Southwest flight I asked the stewardess for a Johnny Walker Black on the rocks. She gave me a dirty look and said, "You're going to have to tell me what that means, because I'm a flight attendant, not a bartender." I was so indignant I forgot to be nervous! The control factor is definitely, I think, what gets people so nervous, especially after reading accounts such as the recent crash near Buffalo, and the one in San Diego in 1978, where the flight crew were horsing around during a landing and not paying attention to what they were doing. Still, though, you can think of it as something like Russian Roulette, with a pistol that holds a million rounds. Not really much of a chance that anything disastrous is going to happen!

76 posted on 06/06/2009 11:36:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: rockinqsranch

I think you’re remembering it wrong, or you read an early report that got it wrong. The pilot had sent a routine communication much earlier, mentioning the strong thunderstorm activity (which is normal and expected in that area). That was the last communication from the crew. Then they missed a standard check-in point a while after that, but reportedly that’s not very uncommon due to transmission problems from that location. It was quite some time after the last direct communication, and after the missed checkpoint, that the barrage of automated messages from the plane starting going out. Everything was fine the last time the crew was heard from directly.


77 posted on 06/06/2009 11:39:57 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: zeebee
A rifle shot could have caused the explosion and it would look like an O-ring failure.

I expect multiple people from Morton-Thiokol would have been very eager to point that out . . . if only there hadn't been incontrovertible evidence that the explosion was in fact caused by one of their faulty O-rings.

78 posted on 06/06/2009 11:44:47 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: traumer

The most interesting point of this whole thread is that people no longer accept what the major media, corporations and government say. All explanations are now suspect and are investigated by the citizens.

This is a wonderful development. It is getting more difficult for demonic forces to play games with the truth. Overtime distortions of the truth will be found out and punished.


79 posted on 06/06/2009 11:50:04 AM PDT by Alex Kida
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To: traumer

I am more inclined to think that there was an in flight detonation of some type. It is just too coincidental to think that there was a threat 4 days before then a plane goes missing.


80 posted on 06/06/2009 11:56:30 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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