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Calif. contemplating rewrite of social contract (i.e. they're thinking about cutting welfare)
Associated Press ^ | June 7, 2009 | Judy Lin

Posted on 06/07/2009 12:15:44 PM PDT by Zakeet

With empty pockets and maxed-out credit, California is debating whether it can continue honoring all parts of its social contract with the state's most vulnerable residents.

The state faces an unprecedented drop in tax revenue and a widening budget deficit amid the deepest recession in decades, prompting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to propose cost-cutting steps that once seemed unthinkable.

At stake are programs for the poor, elderly and frail, placing millions of people in the nation's most populous state at risk of falling through a decades-old social safety net.

Ending the welfare-to-work program for mothers and their children would affect some 546,000 families, and health insurance could be eliminated for 1 million children from low-income families. Services for Alzheimer's patients, disabled and other frail recipients of in-home care also would be greatly reduced under the governor's latest budget proposal, leaving more than 400,000 people without such support.

Schwarzenegger acknowledges that his proposals will be painful.

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California spent 5.4 percent of all its state and federal funding on public assistance in 2007, compared to a national average of 1.7 percent. That doesn't include Medicaid and other social service spending.

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Conservatives say states still have a long list of assistance programs and few people would be left without any help.

Federally mandated programs such as food stamps, low-income housing and Medicaid — the U.S. health program for low-income people, seniors and the disabled — will continue ... Those programs received financial boosts under the federal recovery act.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calbudget; california; calworks; economy; illegalaliens; welfare
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Picture's caption from the Article: Carolina Fuentes and her daughter Katherine, 5, wait for an appointment at the Sacramento county welfare office in Sacramento, Calif., Monday, June 1, 2009. Facing a $24.3 billion state budget deficit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzengger has proposed ending welfare for poor mothers and their children, wiping out health insurance for 1 million children and disbanding care for people with Alzheimer's disease or other disabilities. Fuentes, 22, a newly-single mother , doesn't qualify for benefits having crossed the U.S.-Mexico border as a teenage, applied for cash assistance, food stamps and health coverage of her daughter.

Additional information from the Article: Carolina Fuentes waited for more than two hours at a Sacramento County welfare office on a recent day to apply for cash assistance, food stamps and health coverage for her 5-year-old daughter, Katherine.

The 22-year-old single mother said she is looking for a job and does not qualify for benefits herself because she crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally as a teenager. She doesn't know what she will do if core state assistance is eliminated for her daughter.


A classic example of MSM bias:

California is breaking its "contracted" promises to poor people by scaling back on welfare programs which are already more than three times higher than the average for all states. "Millions of people are at risk of falling through a decades-old social safety net" even though they still get food, housing and medical care through federal benefits which were significantly increased by porkulus maximus. Illegal aliens will be especially hard hit.

1 posted on 06/07/2009 12:15:45 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I’m confused about why she isn’t waiting in a jail cell.


2 posted on 06/07/2009 12:19:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Zakeet

free bus tickets to the border ping


3 posted on 06/07/2009 12:19:11 PM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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To: Zakeet

I thought just a couple days ago Arnold swore he wouldn’t do this. Flippity-flop.


4 posted on 06/07/2009 12:19:37 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Zakeet
"Illegal aliens will be especially hard hit"

Exploit the opportunity in every crisis....dims play book.

5 posted on 06/07/2009 12:20:53 PM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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To: Zakeet
Illegal aliens will be especially hard hit.

Cry me a rio grande.

6 posted on 06/07/2009 12:21:36 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

We should just conquer Mexico. It would be cheaper and make more sense in the long run.


7 posted on 06/07/2009 12:22:11 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Zakeet
Another illegal alien leveraging her anchor baby to sponge off the taxpayers. Send them both back to Mexico. Her anchor baby can apply for citizenship and "repatriation" at age 18.
8 posted on 06/07/2009 12:22:34 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Zakeet
A California Democrat Speaks the Truth! (May 30, 2009)

Nearly all of the billions of dollars in cuts the administration has proposed would affect programs for poor Californians...

“Government doesn’t provide services to rich people,” Mike Genest, the state’s finance director, said on a conference call with reporters on Friday. “It doesn’t even really provide services to the middle class.” He added: “You have to cut where the money is.”

9 posted on 06/07/2009 12:24:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Clock King; Canadian Outrage; fanfan
We should just conquer Mexico. It would be cheaper and make more sense in the long run.

We will. It's a tradition of Nazi kleptocracies to invade their neighbors. They pretty much have to after their policies destroy their own industries.

10 posted on 06/07/2009 12:27:44 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 139 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

You want another 109 million peasants under our flag to demand health care and welfare?


11 posted on 06/07/2009 12:30:42 PM PDT by omega4179 (America is a Christian Nation)
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To: Zakeet

Applying for food stamps? In the picture it looks like they are both eating snack junk food. I wonder who paid for that? I think we know the answer.

It’s really too bad Arnold won election as Governor of California. Even though he’s not a conservative, the press will pin all the heartless cuts made by the “Republican” governor. The Democrats will never get the blame for the upcoming sob stories and social unrest.


12 posted on 06/07/2009 12:31:27 PM PDT by reaganbooster (The democrat party symbol should be the grim reaper instead of the donkey.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
because she crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally as a teenager. She doesn't know what she will do if core state assistance is eliminated for her daughter.

Paging La Migra. Paging La Migra. Please pick up the white Courtesy phone.

L

13 posted on 06/07/2009 12:31:48 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Zakeet

I see that local,state,and federal governments are breaking down at an alarming rate.They have used the public as it’s cashcow long enough.I think the public finally is tired of being fleeced.Nobama needs a smart/dum car for his travels and a rowboat for international matters and make Hillary row with Tim and Ben.Maybe you can get Barney and Teddy at least to assist.


14 posted on 06/07/2009 12:40:29 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Lancey Howard
“Government doesn’t provide services to rich people,” Mike Genest, the state’s finance director, said on a conference call with reporters on Friday. “It doesn’t even really provide services to the middle class.”

So 'jobs' for middle class and rich union members aren't 'services.'

15 posted on 06/07/2009 12:46:07 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Clock King
We should just conquer Mexico. It would be cheaper and make more sense in the long run.

Absolutely not. They would have full access to the US and all of its services. Much better to fence it off!

16 posted on 06/07/2009 12:54:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Zakeet

I could be wrong but I doubt most mothers and fathers are going to let their children go hungry. I also doubt that families won’t take care of their elderly and disabled. Why work though or provide assistance, if the government will pay you not to?


17 posted on 06/07/2009 12:57:03 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Zakeet

Uh, oh. Looks like the nice, liberal whites who have paid the tab for the past 40 years in Kalifornia have finally had enough. BUT little do they know that this is probably a “Chicken Little” scam designed to have Hussein jump to the rescue with more federal funds. I mean after all, Kalifornia demand that blacks and illegals begin to pay their own way, take responsibility for their breeding habits and remove their teeth from the public teat??!! Somehow I just can’t see it.


18 posted on 06/07/2009 12:59:15 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Zakeet

I don’t know any member of my immediate family that has ever gotten a dime of welfare. If and when it is cut, it won’t effect any of us.

If those cuts were done, and spending went down as a result, it would probably be good. It won’t take the state two seconds to divine another good leftist cause to replace it.


19 posted on 06/07/2009 12:59:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Zakeet

Why not stop all services for illegals? And stop all welfare for the able-bodied?


20 posted on 06/07/2009 1:01:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Clock King

“We should just conquer Mexico.”

Make them US citizens with a vote and representation at the national level? No thanks.


21 posted on 06/07/2009 1:04:11 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Zakeet

Hey Carolina, don’t you have any family who can help you out? Why is it my responsibility to feed you and your child? Where is this child’s father and why can’t he support her? There are American children who don’t have insurance so get to the back of the line lady - or better yet, go the hell home!


22 posted on 06/07/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Zakeet
"Illegal aliens will be especially hard hit. "

Maybe they shouldn't have been in such a hurry to invade polling stations to illegally vote for The One.

Next time we need to station ICE agents outside the polls.
23 posted on 06/07/2009 1:07:10 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Zakeet

A contract usually involves commitment of at least TWO parties contributing to a mutual goal. What I’m seeing here is one party committing to helping the other, but the other’s job is to sit there and consume what the former provides - that’s not a contract.


24 posted on 06/07/2009 1:29:59 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: bgill

Arnold started doing this months ago.

Legitimately disabled people have gotten two cuts so far, one just this month.

The amount for SSI was just over $900 per month last year, and was cut once earlier this year to $870

It is now being cut to $850

The federal share for SSI has stayed the same, it’s just the state that has cut it’s portion.


25 posted on 06/07/2009 1:36:44 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Zakeet

“...the state’s most vulnerable residents.”

Just go to the hood and look at their sneakers...you’ll see just how poor these people really are.


26 posted on 06/07/2009 1:40:00 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Zakeet

According to Arnold illegal immigration has nothing to do with the current economic problems faced by the state. So he says.


27 posted on 06/07/2009 1:41:33 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: BunnySlippers
Why not stop all services for illegals? And stop all welfare for the able-bodied?
That's the answer, but it makes too much sense for politicians to initiate that.

What do you want to bet that as the money is lowered to the recipients that the state workers will still have their jobs and their inflated salaries?

As far as the illegals, we voted to stop giving them services a few years ago and one leftist judge un-constitutionally nixed the will of the people.

If that wouldn't have happened we wouldn't be in the fix we are in now.

Billions would have been saved, and more jobs would have gone to citizens as the illegal insurgent criminal invading colonists would self-deport.

28 posted on 06/07/2009 1:42:42 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Myrddin

“Send them both back to Mexico.”

Send the mom back for sure, but maybe let the kid stay and find some lezbo couple to adopt her.

...or let mom bring the kid back with her. Mom’s choice.


29 posted on 06/07/2009 1:43:08 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Zakeet

At what point do we wake up to hear news that the CA underclass has revolted and declared CA annexed to Mexico? I’m often reminded of what happened in Rwanda, where a few radio broadcasts persuaded a large ethnic sub-population to wipe out another ethnicity, on very short notice, in a matter of hours. Initiated by La Raza-connected radio/TV stations declaring “it’s time!”, current bureaucracy centers could easily be wiped out, police stymied, positions of leadership replaced, and the whole state simply declared independent/annexed within hours. What’s BHO gonna do when tens of millions declare secession and non-cooperation? What’s Ahnuld gonna do when a La Raza posse, backed by 10,000 armed supporters, says “out. now.”? As a geographic bonus, the bulk of the population enjoys a 50-100 mile buffer zone of desert, and very few viable roads, both contributing to state defense.

Government lasts only so long as there is consent of the governed. Stop supporting the very large welfare class in CA, and we may very well see that class stop cooperating - and those inclined & prepared ready to lead that revolt and enjoy the results.

What’s the lady in the picture going to do when she, and a million others like her, stop getting handouts (much less jobs)? Where is the breaking point of CA’s welfare class? who is ready to lead them? and where?


30 posted on 06/07/2009 1:43:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Syncro
Legitimately disabled people have gotten two cuts so far, one just this month. The amount for SSI was just over $900 per month last year, and was cut once earlier this year to $870

SSI has also been used for "special education" kids who are encouraged to act disturbed in order to qualify.

31 posted on 06/07/2009 1:46:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yes, there is an enormous amount of fraud


32 posted on 06/07/2009 1:50:02 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: PapaBear3625
Also schools push for ADD etc etc so kids get on meds and qualify for classes at school that they (the school) get big extra bucks for.

It's rampant and exponential

33 posted on 06/07/2009 1:52:22 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Zakeet
At stake are programs for the poor, elderly and frail, placing millions of people in the nation's most populous state at risk of falling through a decades-old social safety net.

BS!!!

Perhaps now charities will return to their proper roles which were usurped by government illegally to try to buy voters and ensure their power.

Well run charities will out perform the government every time both in the completion of their mission and in the cost of doing it.

California could become a REAL leader in this country if they did away with government run welfare and charitable organizations took up the standard once again just as they did in the past.

34 posted on 06/07/2009 1:54:05 PM PDT by johniegrad
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35 posted on 06/07/2009 1:56:19 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: null and void; Clock King; Canadian Outrage

With Stephen Harper leading us, we will fight you with every hockey puck, moose, and beaver we have. To the last timbit.

;-)


36 posted on 06/07/2009 1:57:36 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

There is something especially vicious about Canadian Beaver...


37 posted on 06/07/2009 1:59:27 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 139 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Zakeet

“Fuentas waited for more that 2 hours” for free food and free medical, but she is an illegal alien and shouldn’t be here at all. 2 hour wait! that’s just terrible.


38 posted on 06/07/2009 2:02:16 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised (M SURE THERE IS A NOBLE LLAWYER SOMEWHE)
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To: Zakeet

There is nothing in Federal or State Law that prohibits a US Citizen child of an illegal alien from returning to that alien’s home country with her/him. Nothing. That’s just liberal mush-talk. Send Mama home and her daughter can decide when she turns 21 if she wants to become a US Citizen or a Mexican one.

When I worked in Montgomery, AL for social services, a man from California, a BIG MAN from California came into my office and physically attempted to threaten me as he yelled at me that I, personally, had stopped his California Welfare Check of $800. He moved to Alabama and expected his California Welfare Check to follow him!

At the time, a run down efficiency apartment in Los Angeles was $900 a month. He was a single male and received $800 a month . . . just for breathing . . . plus food stamps and some kind of medical coverage. And he comes to the Heart of Dixie and expects the same??? I didn’t laugh at him but I did decide that if he came at me from across the desk I was high tailing it over the cubicle wall in three steps . . . chair, desk top, over. His loud voice brought our skinny little non-armed guard to the door of my cubicle and the man quieted down. Plus I sent him to the Social Security Office to let them deal with him.

THAT is why California is bankrupt. They have been doing this for over 25 years and they have nothing to show for it but a huge deficit.

In my Georgia County over 30% of the population (6000 people) are unemployed and seeking assistance that just doesn’t exist. The Food Bank are giving away a lot of food every month. Fortunately, the working and retired people here are very graciously donating money and canned food for those less fortunate. It’s going to be a long hot summer for some people.

Is what is happening planned or happenstance? Watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173 and come to your own conclusion.


39 posted on 06/07/2009 2:06:55 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: Zakeet

Instead of finding 3 hours of work, she travelled to the welfare office to wait for “her” money?

Her Money?


40 posted on 06/07/2009 2:07:26 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Zakeet

100% of all welfare should be eliminated!


41 posted on 06/07/2009 2:11:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Myrddin

Change the ruling of the law and declare all anchor babies illegal ailens!


42 posted on 06/07/2009 2:13:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: fanfan

She thinks waiting for handouts is her job.


43 posted on 06/07/2009 2:13:50 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Syncro
Yes, there is an enormous amount of fraud

What's needed for SSI, is for the fraud to be rooted out. But that would step on toes and likely be deemed racist.

44 posted on 06/07/2009 2:14:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

You betcha!

Not only that, but it would put a big dent in the democrat voting base.


45 posted on 06/07/2009 2:16:08 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Lancey Howard
“It [government] doesn’t even really provide services to the middle class.” He added: “You have to cut where the money is.”

Wasn't Rush saying something a month or two ago about how welfare costs break down to 70% administrative and 30% to the purported beneficaries?

Comports with something I saw in NR in about 1980: In 1976 (the last year for which figures were available at the time), federal poverty aid cost enough to give every poor person (not family -- person) in the country $20,000 for the year. I was in grad school at the time (making $3,000 a year on a teaching stipend, plus whatever I could make on summer jobs), so I don't know what a "normal" salary was then. I'm guessing it wasn't $20,000.

For CA, I'm guessing those welfare workers are unionized and won't be laid off.

46 posted on 06/07/2009 2:18:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: dalereed
I have a rental property which I accept Section-8. What an eye opener!
Looking for a new tenant and this woman applied
She was approved for $1050 per month although she worked, had a daughter 19yrs old, not handicapped and not working. Drove a late model car....better than mine!
She didn't qualify because her voucher was only for a two bedroom and my house had three.
Why in the world was this woman getting any welfare benefits for twenty years?
47 posted on 06/07/2009 2:32:43 PM PDT by mickie
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To: mickie

I do work on one that is a 3 beedroom,3 bath that they are payinf $1,850 and the tennant only poays $50, it’s criminal!


48 posted on 06/07/2009 2:39:22 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Zakeet
I checked. You can get SCHIP in California even if you make over $100,000 per year. You can actually be filthy stinkin' rich deriving your income from investments and still get SCHIP. Cut some of these programs for "poor" families? Maybe actually restrict them to POOR families.

The 22-year-old single mother said she is looking for a job and does not qualify for benefits herself because she crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally as a teenager.

And yet LEGAL aliens are not allowed means-tested aid.

49 posted on 06/07/2009 2:40:18 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: omega4179
You want another 109 million peasants under our flag to demand health care and welfare?

They'll all be here sooner or later, anyway.

50 posted on 06/07/2009 3:34:20 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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