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Baltimore: It Really Is That Bad
the business insider ^ | 6/8/09

Posted on 06/08/2009 5:08:47 PM PDT by FromLori

If anything, The Wire makes it seem better than it is.

We recently had the chance to visit Baltimore, Maryland to see a baseball game. And though the stadium is very nice, we came off thinking that in a sense the HBO show The Wire, actually makes Baltimore seem better than it really is. Because if you watched The Wire, you might conclude that all the messed up parts were confined to some section of the city, rather than the whole thing itself. But it's really all pretty miserable. We regret not putting it on our list of depressing cities.

Even downtown by day is pretty sad, given the prominence of once-glorious money manager Legg Mason (LM). And then at night it's just kind of miserable.

Anyway, we're not the only ones with no interest in The Charm City.

peHUB posts a copy of a letter to the editor from New Enterprise Ventures, a VC firm that's moving out of Baltimore. This part is particularly rich:

Our decision was a result of the high level of crime in our neighborhood. Over the last several years, many of our cars have been broken into resulting in very expensive repairs, our employees have been robbed at gun point, drug needles and used condoms have been left on our front stoop, and psychotic homeless people have menaced our employees and threatened to kill them. We have voiced our frustrations to the local community leaders and police, but the environment has only worsened. The recent local beatings by roving teenagers during the day in this neighborhood, the raucous club in the basement of the Belvedere, and other gang violence throughout the city reinforces the appropriateness of New Enterprise Associates’ decision to move in order to protect its employees.

Yeesh!

All joking aside, it really is tragic, since on the surface there's no reason the city needed to be that bad. It's got a beautiful spot on the water, in what should be a successful Eastern Seaboard state. And unlike Detroit, it wasn't married to a single industry that got absolutely gutted over the past several years. Why do we keep losing our cities? It's an embarrassment.


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1 posted on 06/08/2009 5:08:47 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori
Why do we keep losing our cities?

Liberal infestations?

2 posted on 06/08/2009 5:13:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: FromLori

Anything run by Democrats for long is run into the ground. You think they wasted Baltimore, see what happens to the rest of the country no that they are in charge.


3 posted on 06/08/2009 5:14:21 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: FromLori

<<< ...it wasn’t married to a single industry that got absolutely gutted over the past several years. >>>

Politics. That’s the only industry I can think to tie to the city. Is there anything else there?


4 posted on 06/08/2009 5:14:28 PM PDT by Timeout (The Brits have their royal family. We have our privileged "public servant" class.)
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To: FromLori
"Why do we keep losing our cities?"

Taxes are too low and gov't is too small?

5 posted on 06/08/2009 5:14:38 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: FromLori

Ping for later.


6 posted on 06/08/2009 5:15:15 PM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Timeout

> Politics. That’s the only industry I can think to tie to the city. Is there anything else there?

Aside from crime?


7 posted on 06/08/2009 5:15:18 PM PDT by max americana
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To: FromLori
While Baltimore is a mess, downtown is not sad if you stay out of the bad areas. The food options are fun; but then I try to leave once it gets dark.
8 posted on 06/08/2009 5:17:21 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: FromLori

One answer and one answer only; The failed “War On Poverty.” The only war we have not, nor could ever win. Pure impossibility.


9 posted on 06/08/2009 5:17:52 PM PDT by IrishPennant (RLT = Radical Left Terrorism...feel it????)
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To: FromLori
the high level of crime in our neighborhood. Over the last several years, many of our cars have been broken into resulting in very expensive repairs, our employees have been robbed at gun point, drug needles and used condoms have been left on our front stoop, and psychotic homeless people have menaced our employees and threatened to kill them. We have voiced our frustrations to the local community leaders and police, but the environment has only worsened. The recent local beatings by roving teenagers during the day in this neighborhood, the raucous club in the basement of the Belvedere, and other gang violence throughout the city

Sounds like Obama voters, all right.

10 posted on 06/08/2009 5:18:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yepper, Marty O’Malley went from mayor of Baltimore to governor of the whole once-beautiful state. It is hopelessly mired in Dem politics and the urban corridor between there and DC seems to control their pitiful legislature. I’d love to see the Eastern Shore politically separated from the rest myself.


11 posted on 06/08/2009 5:19:08 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: FromLori

Baltimore is another city being led by a mayor with a bias, unfortunately, African-Americans mayor have tunnel vision towards their own race and create their agendas based on racism.


12 posted on 06/08/2009 5:19:41 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Vision

Around the Inner Harbor is kind of nice, but it really starts getting seedy a few hours before dusk, when the homeless have crawled out from under the bushes. If you park more than a few blocks from the main street (Eutaw?) it can get pretty dicey.

And then there’s the Ravens fans!!!!!


13 posted on 06/08/2009 5:20:11 PM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Vision

I was in Baltimore for four days last September for a convention and had a very good time. I was in the Inner Harbor area, which I was told is the only good part of the city.


14 posted on 06/08/2009 5:20:46 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Jeff Chandler

http://www.sodahead.com/blog/15852/democrat-run-cites-lead-the-highest-crime-and-murder-rates/


15 posted on 06/08/2009 5:21:00 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: IrishPennant

Thanks to Lyndon Johnson, riding the wave of post-Kennedy assasination sentiments. The % of illegitimate births in black families begins a dramatic upward trend at that point also.


16 posted on 06/08/2009 5:21:03 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: FromLori

Democrats.


17 posted on 06/08/2009 5:21:31 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Timeout

Medical around Johns Hopkins. The company probably took advantage of a tax break offered to companies to move near JH in a run down neighborhood. I’m sure what they found is that a tax break isn’t worth a high cost of living and high crime south west of the hospital.


18 posted on 06/08/2009 5:24:11 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: Timeout
"Politics. That’s the only industry I can think to tie to the city."

Didn't Nazi Pelosi learn politics there at her father's knee?

19 posted on 06/08/2009 5:26:03 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: FromLori
Why do we keep losing our cities?

The answer is simple. The limousine liberals impose their socialist agenda in the city such as rent control, public housing and welfare programs and then they flee to the inner suburbs where they surround themselves with gated communities, Whole Foods supermarkets and Starbucks outlets, all the while ensuring that section 8 housing, prisons and check cashing outlets never get built in their neighborhood.

Meanwhile, the conservatives get the hell away from everybody so they move out to the exurbs where they surround themselves with acres of forest, Outback restaurants and big-box stores where they can buy everything they need without having to go near the city.

20 posted on 06/08/2009 5:26:35 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 60 Days Away from Outliving David Bowie's guitarist (Mick Ronson))
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To: windcliff

What do you expect from the city that spawned Dawn Davenport?!


21 posted on 06/08/2009 5:30:36 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: SamAdams76

You know I remember in the early 1970’s when articles appeared everywhere condemning the people for fleeing from Milwaukee the newspapers all had huge headlines “White Flight” and said how horrible and racist the people were for leaving. Now over 30 years later they are still wondering why the cities are such cess pools? Same old, same old doing the same things over and over and expecting different results...Insanity Reigns in those cities. St. Paul used to be a nice city not anymore! They just kept welcoming the trash and now the city is trash.


22 posted on 06/08/2009 5:31:34 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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The problems of a one party liberal city. And there is the racial factor. Too many of the city's residents consciously embrace a dysfunctional way of life. Drugs, promiscuity, parental irresponsibility,municipal corruption, refusal to perform in school, tolerance for violent crime, blaming others for their failures. The decay happened in Detroit and Gary, Indiana. The subculture makes the south side of Chicago unlivable. No amount of money, no program of handouts, can solve this problem, which is essentially a sickness of the soul. So sad.
23 posted on 06/08/2009 5:35:46 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: FromLori

“no reason the city needed to be that bad”. really? I can think of quite a few reasons the city couldn’t escape it... TCBE’s and many of ‘em.


24 posted on 06/08/2009 5:37:37 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: perez24; LiveFree99
I spend time in Little Italy, which is nice. Caton is fun. Federal Hill and S Baltimore are good. Fells Point is a little seedy. Going north Roland Park has great areas...you'd be amazed as some of the hidden wooded neighborhoods in towson(barely out of the city)but that's about it.

You can visit areas in west Baltimore which you will think you are not in America.

25 posted on 06/08/2009 5:45:17 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: Vision

Thanks for the travel tips. I’ll try to check out those areas (cautiously) the next time I’m down there.


26 posted on 06/08/2009 5:46:31 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: FromLori
Ditto Mpls, Philadelphia, Cleveland, etc.
27 posted on 06/08/2009 5:47:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: perez24; LiveFree99
It's common for me to hear gunshots at all hours of the day where Catonsville meets west Baltimore. You can tell they're gunshots because the sound of the bolt changes the pitch of the bang, unlike fireworks.

We also get the police helicopters buzzing around with the spotlight on.

28 posted on 06/08/2009 5:48:10 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: FromLori

If it weren’t for the tremendous infusion of federal dollars into Maryland, it would probably rank near the bottom of states economically. Its proximity to DC means lots of federal workers and federal contract workers. The Gov, who was the mayor of the failed city of Baltimore, now has 4 BILLION stimulous dollars to dole out to his favored ones. It’s a state of limousine liberals and government dependants.


29 posted on 06/08/2009 6:04:46 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: FromLori

Nancy Pelosi’s daddy Thomas D’Alesandro didnt help, Her brother Thomas D’Alesandro III was worse. Martin O Mally ,better known as M.O.M. sucked and then along came Sheila Dixon.

When is her trial to start anyway?


30 posted on 06/08/2009 6:05:13 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: perez24
If you park more than a few blocks from the main street (Eutaw?) it can get pretty dicey. (after dark)

Ya know, it makes me think of starting a new reality show, After Dark with Smith and Wesson.

Sad part is, I would wind up in jail. This country is so screwed!

31 posted on 06/08/2009 6:05:16 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: maica; Freee-dame; wardaddy
ping.
What is conspicuously absent from discussion in this article?

Hmmmm.....lemmee think....

32 posted on 06/08/2009 6:05:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FromLori

And it’s not only white flight. Minorities who are productive members of society and want to live in a better area flee the cities too.

Because of political correctness, it’s hard sometimes to talk about the problems of the cities. But it’s not so much racial as it is that the cities have critical masses of people who are :

uneducated, unemployable, unable or unwilling to live in civilized society, youth gangs whose “job” is criminal activity, the homeless, many of who are mentally ill, baby mamas, poor people.

Can we ask Obama or other good Democrats about the war on poverty, and what their exit strategy is? That war was started by a good Democrat, Johnson, along with a heavily Democrat Congress. Hubert Humphrey declared we would eradicate poverty in 10 years. We’re way off that schedule, with no end in sight to the war on poverty. Poverty won the war on poverty. It’s not so much a poverty of money as a poverty of values and upbringing. Such a tragedy, such a waste of human life. And Democrats are never called on it.


33 posted on 06/08/2009 6:27:45 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: FromLori

Baltimore - Zimbabwe on the Chesapeake.


34 posted on 06/08/2009 6:37:56 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: Vision

I lived in Towson for two years in 1987 - 1989. That was enough for me and I made a beeline for Texas. What ever happened to Curt Schmoke, the mayor of Baltimore during the late 80s? Did he end up in jail?


35 posted on 06/08/2009 6:43:19 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Vision
I live in Brooklyn about 250 yards from the Balt. City/Anne Arundel Co. line - I can see the line from my front porch (the streetlights are different). Gunshots are not at all uncommon, and we call the police helicopter "The official bird of Baltimore City". You also get punks on motorbikes zipping down my one-way street the wrong way. (I once called the city police on 311 to complain about motor bikes. When I didn't see an officer in 30 minutes, I called again and informed them the next time someone calls from my street, it's going to be a 911 call after I shot the b@st@rd. The cops were there in less than three minutes!)

Once the weather gets nice, the knuckleheads starting coming out in droves. In all honesty, it's relatively safe - notwithstanding the A.A. county cop who was shot 100 yards from my home last year. However, there are parts of Baltimore that look like third-world countries - you just have to avoid them.

36 posted on 06/08/2009 6:44:49 PM PDT by Ten Beers Gone (Is it 2013 yet?)
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To: miele man

He didn’t end up in jail, but they still talk about him.


37 posted on 06/08/2009 6:52:44 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: miele man
What ever happened to Curt Schmoke, the mayor of Baltimore during the late 80s?

He has been the dean of the Howard University Law School since 2003.

I'm thinking about making a beeline to Texas myself in a couple of years. Two of my favorite things are guitars and guns, so I would probably fit right in in the Lone Star State after I lose my Bawlmer accent!

38 posted on 06/08/2009 6:55:14 PM PDT by Ten Beers Gone (Is it 2013 yet?)
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To: Ten Beers Gone
I've been through your area. Would like to move to AA near the water or Hunt Valley.
39 posted on 06/08/2009 6:55:25 PM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

I’d love to see the Eastern Shore politically separated from the rest myself.

&&&
I’d vote for that! I live in Tolchester.


40 posted on 06/08/2009 6:57:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: sionnsar

Wow—the correct answer in just one post. Well done!


41 posted on 06/08/2009 6:58:49 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: sionnsar

We keep losing our cities to barbarians because we as a country have lost our will to address the isues of crime and violence and have made it an issue of race rather than an issue of criminality.

Portland Maine a beautiful city on the water just hired a new police chief who said he wanted to help contain the gangs. CONTAIN. Why would Portland Maine want to give any sort of residence to this sort of criminal infestation is beyond my comprehension. One eradicates criminals and their behaviors. One makes them want to leave the state. In this way one protects one’s citizens. In thirty years Portland will become like all the other cities in the country...overrun with barbarians.


42 posted on 06/08/2009 7:03:23 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Ten Beers Gone

I’m a bit stunned to learn he is the Dean of a law school especially since he called for the legalization of marijuana while mayor.

I now live in Alabama but thoroughly enjoyed my time in Ft. Worth. I lived for a short time in Austin and did not like it. It was much too liberal for me.

You’ll take a ribbing over your “Bawlmer” accent but I ‘spect you’ll come to love Texas. Lots to see and do there.


43 posted on 06/08/2009 7:11:05 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Vision

Thanks. I’m not surprised he is still a topic of conversation.


44 posted on 06/08/2009 7:12:05 PM PDT by miele man
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To: FromLori

I have only been to Baltimore once and that was for a week 50 years ago. It didn’t look very good to me then, I’d hate to think how it must look now.


45 posted on 06/08/2009 7:14:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: miele man
I have met many fine folks from the great state of Alabama.

I know that Austin is very liberal. I frequent a tavern by BWI and have met many Southwest Airline flight attendants from Texas. I hear Dallas/Ft. Worth is nice and have heard good things about Amarillo and Lubbock. One of the F.A's I met is from Amarillo and she makes fun of my accent, but I don't get mad at her - she's just way too cute!

46 posted on 06/08/2009 7:24:24 PM PDT by Ten Beers Gone (Is it 2013 yet?)
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To: FromLori

Too bad...when I first went to Baltimore in 1976 the Convention Center was being patrolled by two man police teams with dogs and leaving you hotel was a scary experience. When I came back in the mid 1980s the Inner Harbor area was a show place although just outside that area was still a combat zone. Apparently the hoodlums have again taken over.


47 posted on 06/08/2009 7:32:24 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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We keep losing our cities to barbarians because we as a country have lost our will to address the isues of crime and violence and have made it an issue of race rather than an issue of criminality.

I agree criminality is the point. However as long as we can not address race this will not change. The fact that certain races commit proportionally way more crime either is addressed head on or we just sit back and continue down this path to national suicide and let the country be destroyed. Race IS an issue and not just with crime. 40-50 years of pretending it is not has brought us to today.

48 posted on 06/08/2009 7:33:44 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

My sons spent a few months at Hopkins ... incredible institution in the most unfortunate location. The hospital staff warns patients’ visitors to have an escort when leaving the premises.

We stayed at a home for family of pediatric patients, half block from the main entrance .. you could literally see the place from that entrance... but they would not let us walk it alone, always had to have a uniformed escort. Just so sad.


49 posted on 06/08/2009 7:44:48 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: FromLori; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


50 posted on 06/08/2009 8:12:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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