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WALSH: Chris can I make a point-
MATTHEWS: Sure.
WALSH: -about the DHS report too, that I think is relevant. Susan [Page] hits the high points. It also says that, you know, the single biggest danger, in their view, are lone wolves and that looks prescient today too. But what, if you look back at the way Janet Napolitano, who didn't even write it, it was commissioned by the Bush, by the Bush White House, if you look back at the way she was vilified, at Rush Limbaugh, and Michelle Malkin and that whole right wing echo chamber acting as though it was now open season on conservatives, they have this incredible capacity-
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
WALSH: -to be shrill, to polarize. And I don't know what happened to that report? It got shelved until today. Susan and I read it. You know I hadn't read it, when it came out. It's very calm.
MATTHEWS: Well let me ask you Sue, we live in a country where it's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle. It's easy! It is totally easy in this country. We believe in the First Amendment. Our Constitution is protected. The right to bear arms is an individual right, as recently reviewed by the Supreme Court. It's a fact of life. You put together the, the prevalence of guns in this country. The easiness with which someone can engage in gunplay and gun smoke, in this case, where people can be killed it doesn't surprise me. I wonder whether if in a free society violence is always gonna be part of it, if guns are available and people are allowed to walk into places like the Holocaust Museum?
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A little later in the program Matthews asks if "conservatives" need to tone down their rhetoric to which USA Today’s Susan Page more reasonably points out that she didn’t think it was fair "to conflate being a conservative with fringe groups," that engage in violence. And for her part Walsh tried to walk back her position as she said she didn’t blame "conservatives" or "mainstream Republicans" for the shooting but nevertheless went on to continue to cite their "rhetoric," as a cause for the shooting.
MATTHEWS: Susan you first. You know we've grown up in a country where there's been an extreme, generally on the right, sometimes on the left. Lee Harvey Oswald clearly was fascinated and in love with, infatuated with, with Fidel Castro when he killed Kennedy. This thing here where you have a person who claims to be or is actually anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-Catholic, I guess on the periphery, which is the big three of the KKK historically. What do we do with this? Are we gonna hear from conservatives who are gonna start saying, "Well let's stop some of this black helicopter talk. Let's stop this villainization of the government, of the establishment." Which way do you think the tone of the debate is gonna go now?
SUSAN PAGE, USA TODAY: Well I don't think it's really fair to conflate being a conservative with these fringe groups that engage in this, in this kind of violence. I mean that's, you can be a critic of the Obama administration without endorsing these, these kind of views and certainly these, these actions. But I do, yeah I do think this sparks a kind of debate and concern about, about what's happening with politics.
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WALSH: And I will say, you know, I do hope that some conservatives do stand up. I don't blame them, I don't blame mainstream Republicans by any means for this. I want to be clear. But they could help in ratcheting down some of the rhetoric. When Bill O'Reilly goes on TV every night and calls Dr. Tiller a baby-killer and a Nazi and a Mengele and shows where he works I, why do we put up with that? Why is that entertainment in our culture? Demonizing a private citizen for doing a lawful job. Why, why, why, why are people doing that? Why is that acceptable? I would like to see a debate about that.
Incidentally while Walsh slammed O’Reilly for "demonizing a private citizen," it was Matthews, earlier on Wednesday night’s show during a segment on the future of the GOP, who actually compared Newt Gingrich to the devil:
MATTHEWS: Doug it’s not too cartoonish to describe Rush Limbaugh as sort of a walrus under water. That’s what he talks like. Whu, whu, whu. He’s like a drowning walrus the way he talks. And then you’ve got Newt Gingrich who’s clearly a, well he looks like a Mephistopheles. And then this guy, well, well Cheney is a troll. So you got a troll, a walrus and the devil as your cartoon characters. Can’t you guys find more attractive figures that the right might rally too?
Many of von Brunn’s political views line up on the “left” not the “right.”
He hated both Bushes. Mocked Goldwater as a Jew. Railed against neocons. Big time 9/11 denier. Despised big business (all owned by Jews). Defender of Palestinans.
Sounds like KOS reader to me.
Assuming the geezer wasn’t in some age related dementia state of mind, I suspect the Demjanjuk case may be what sent him over the edge.
He is INNOCENT, I tell you!
Ms. Walsh, Rush Limbaugh thanks you because tomorrow millions more than usual will tune in to hear him refute your nonsense. Ms. Walsh, your and other’s misguided blame has made Rush a multi-millionaire. Keep it up.
There. I fixed it.
Correction:
There are no “journalsts” on Hardball.
Some poor quality editorialists, perhaps?
Rush Limbaugh is also responsible for climate change.
What is most absurd is that racism is far more a result of the liberal left and their views of collectivism.
Right leaning and conservatives are far more individualistic and do not feel the need to prescribe to a group and therefore racism doesn’t have a home with individualists.
All the biggest racists in the history of our world were propped up by regimes bent on promoting fascism, communism, socialism and now our very own liberalism.
Make no mistake about it the liberals are the racists in this country - after all they require for their own survival.
Today’s horrible act of violence at the holocaust museum has nothing to do with Limbaugh, Beck or Hannity, etc...
This shooter hated Jews, Christians, George Bush, Barry Goldwater, and big business, and was a 9/11 Troofer. Sounds like a typical DUmmie or KosKid. (Maybe those extremist sites should be shut down for spawning this hate-filled violence). Conservatives are the ones standing up for Israel and speaking out against radical Islam. Obama is the one promoting anti-Israel policies.
But of course, liberal pieces of garbage like Cwissy “Tingle” Matthews and Joan Walsh are desperately trying to accuse the shooter of being a conservative. If that’s not bad enough, they’re also accusing mainstream conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin of being responsible for the murder. Matthews and Walsh, the haters of Israel, are accusing conservatives, the defenders of Israel, of having blood on our hands over the shooting of a Holocaust Museum guard. Just when you think liberals can’t sink any lower, they do. And they’ll sink even lower than this. It might not seem possible, but somehow, they’ll find a way.
Make your own damn waffle and stop complaining because the illegal immigrants don't want to work for you.
Oh, and the shooter hates Jews. American Conservatives, especially Christians, are the greatest friends Israel has. The shooter is not from the American Conservative camp. Sorry, MSM.
So he gets paid for making fun of the way a deaf person talks?