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Move to Repeal Presidential Term Limits
The Voice magazine ^ | June 11, 2009 | Brian Burke

Posted on 06/11/2009 2:52:11 PM PDT by truthnomatterwhat

Liberals have always covetted the return of Clinton in the Oval Office. Those were the days, if only he could run again, they dream. Can you imagine unlimited terms for any president? Nixon perhaps or Bush the second? Maybe we should bring Carter back? God forbid. Now they have Obama. What if President Barack Obama could be our President forever? Imagine that?

I know, you think this could never be in the home of the free. But Democrat Congressman José Serrano (NY) had the audicity to propose an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would allow this to happen. He introduced the House Joint Resolution 5 (HJR5) entitled: "Proposing an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President."

To give you a bit of Constitutional history, it was...

(Excerpt) Read more at thevoicemagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4kooks; hjr5; joseserrano; oldnews; presidentialterms; termlimits
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1 posted on 06/11/2009 2:52:12 PM PDT by truthnomatterwhat
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Two terms is enough for any politician.


2 posted on 06/11/2009 2:53:25 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Liberals have no intent of imposing the laws and traditions of mere men on their “god”.


3 posted on 06/11/2009 2:54:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Knew this was coming-it will be slipped into some bill in the middle of the night on a Friday-or holiday weekend.

THIS is very very BAD.


4 posted on 06/11/2009 2:55:38 PM PDT by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Farewell America, we hardly knew ye.


5 posted on 06/11/2009 2:56:58 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: homegroan

It will have to be ratified by the States.

NOT going to happen.


6 posted on 06/11/2009 2:57:07 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Who here on FR didn’t see this comming?


7 posted on 06/11/2009 2:57:31 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Tagline server crashed)
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To: homegroan

As is everything else that’s leftist-very bad!


8 posted on 06/11/2009 2:57:32 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

kooksville


9 posted on 06/11/2009 2:57:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

It still has to be ratified by 2/3 of the states. Before ACORN that might not have been possible.

Gunner


10 posted on 06/11/2009 2:59:06 PM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: clee1

Of course it’s not.


11 posted on 06/11/2009 2:59:46 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: truthnomatterwhat

I give that liberal credit for at least going through the amendment process - most of the time they are shoving filth down our throats by judicial fiat or secret midnight legislation.


12 posted on 06/11/2009 3:00:37 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: cripplecreek

‘Liberals have no intent of imposing the laws and traditions of mere men on their “god”.’

Doesn’t this need more than Congressional approval to pass? Doesn’t a supermajority of the states (2/3, or 34 states) need to vote on something like this before it can actually become law of the land?


13 posted on 06/11/2009 3:00:42 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Serrano is a radical nutbag and introduced this resolution some time ago (under Bush, IIRC). It’s been floating around for quite a while and is laughable. BUT...

Under Barry, what was once laughable becomes reality. We have to keep an eye on this.


14 posted on 06/11/2009 3:01:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: truthnomatterwhat
I seem to recall during discussions on this topic during college, that any amendment would only apply to future presidents. As I understand it, anyone elected to an office would be bound by the constitution as it was when he assumed office. Probably ways around this just as there seem to be ways around birth requirements-but that's what I remember and I'm stickin' to it!

I'd imagine, if this is correct, that any members of congress would be exempt from term limit legislation so long as they continued to hold their office. Only those elected after the amendment change would be limited to the new reg's.

15 posted on 06/11/2009 3:02:03 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: truthnomatterwhat

OF course if Palin ever gets into office and she gets Reagan’s approval numbers they will be screaming bloody murder to undo their abolition of term limits.


16 posted on 06/11/2009 3:02:11 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: joejm65

Yep but don’t worry. ACORN is busy setting the redistricting up.


17 posted on 06/11/2009 3:04:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

I guess we can’t trust the citizens to vote “correctly” after 2 terms.

Pretty cynical attitude toward democracy.


18 posted on 06/11/2009 3:04:37 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Another example of the lack of thinking going on nowadays.

Ironically, probably the best way to kill this is to ask it’s supporters “Would you still support it if a Republican got elected?”


19 posted on 06/11/2009 3:05:22 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: truthnomatterwhat
Liberals have always covetted the return of Clinton... Carter..

Why restrict it to live ones? Now that the dead have the right to vote, it would be discrimination and hateful to say that FDR couldn't serve a few more terms.

20 posted on 06/11/2009 3:05:30 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: truthnomatterwhat; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 21stCenturyFreeThinker; Alice in Wonderland; ..

OT ping.


21 posted on 06/11/2009 3:05:56 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 143 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

they are under the illusion that this would hand Presidency for Life to Barry O. Wait till his polls tank and he can’t bloviate his way out of it (even with the most expensive Teleprompter).


22 posted on 06/11/2009 3:06:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Serrano and his homey-girl Sotomayor should just go back to whatever barrio they came from (here or back in PR) and STFU. They are both embarrassments to hard-working, decent Puerto Ricans everywhere. They are evidence that Affirmative Action is a failed experiment.


23 posted on 06/11/2009 3:07:31 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: skimbell
Probably ways around this...

The liberals have an excellent way [for them] around this. Since they are the party of the American Idol president, no need to have the next clown come up the ranks... you know, like be a Sinator for 20 years, congresscritter for 30... I'm sure there are dozens or more 0bama-like Soros-puppet wannabees waiting in the wings. Its not what the president does, but its what his enablers and task masters do behind the scenes that counts. They could just bring in another clown every 4 or 8 years, and continue where they left off.

24 posted on 06/11/2009 3:09:30 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

This bill was filed by Jose Cerrano on January 6, 2009.


25 posted on 06/11/2009 3:12:19 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Serrano has proposed this every congress since 1997.


26 posted on 06/11/2009 3:14:37 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: K-oneTexas; DooDahhhh; 2ndDivisionVet; exit82; dk/coro; navyguy; Candor7; null and void; ...

One term is more than enough for these power-hungry, corrupt ego maniacs.

In an email I received today. Don’t know if it’s absoutely accurate or not, but after reading it, I don’t doubt it for a minute.

Just a few of the many reasons why our Country is in trouble.

A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of ‘why’ our country is in trouble !

1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn’t get messed up by being near the window (On an airplane!)

2. I got a call from a candidate’s staffer, who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, and then she interrupted me with, ‘’I’m not trying to make
you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts .’’
Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, ‘’Cape Cod is in Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa ‘’
Her response - click.

3. A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that’s not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, don’t lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state!’’ (OMG)

4. I got a call from a lawmaker’s wife who asked, ‘’Is it possible to see England from Canada ?’’
I said, ‘’No..’’ She said, ‘’But they look so close on the map.’’ (OMG,again!)

5. An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a 1-hour layover
in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, ‘’I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time.’’ (Aghhhh)

6. An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn’t understand the concept of time zones..
Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.

7. A New York lawmaker called and asked, ‘’Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom?’’ I said, ‘No, why do you ask?’
She replied,’’Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage That said (FAT), and I’m overweight. I think that’s very rude!’’
After putting her on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , CA is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a destination tag on her luggage.

8. A Senator’s aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii. After going over all the cost info, she asked, ‘’Would it be cheaper to fly to California , and then take the train to Hawaii ?’’

9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, ‘’How do I know which plane to Get on?’’
I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ‘’I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.’’

10. A lady Senator called and said, ‘’I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola ,Florida . Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes?’’ I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL on a commuter plane.
She said, ‘’Yeah, whatever, smarty!’’

11. A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded him that he needed a visa. ‘Oh, no I don’t. I’ve been to China many times and never had to have one of those.’’
I double checked and sure enough, his stay required a visa.
When I told him this he said, ‘’Look, I’ve been to China four times.. and every time they have accepted my American Express!’’

12.. A New Mexico Congresswoman called to make reservations, ‘’I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York. ‘’ I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ‘’Are you sure that’s the name of the town?’’ ‘
‘Yes, what flights do you have?’’ replied the lady.
After some searching, I came back with, ‘’I’m sorry, ma’am, I’ve looked up every airport code in the country and can’t find a rhino anywhere.’ ‘’The lady retorted, ‘’Oh, don’t be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check your map!’’
So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ‘’You don’t mean Buffalo , do you?’’
The reply? ‘’Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.’’

Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it’s in! Could anyone be this DUMB?


27 posted on 06/11/2009 3:14:59 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Why don’t we make this deal: we’ll vote for an ammendment for unlimited presidential terms, if they’ll vote for an ammendment that presidential candidates have to show a VALID birth certificate?


28 posted on 06/11/2009 3:17:40 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Just rewrite the Constitution. Logical next step, they aren’t complying with the present one much any more. Set up your own internal corps of enforcers, like hiring the ACORN organization, and fan out across America, spreading good cheer and the word of truthiness.

And there is ample precedent for this. The Tonton Macoutes were a Haitian paramilitary force created in 1959 and reporting directly to François ‘Papa Doc’ Duvalier until his death in 1971. ‘Papa Doc’ came to power in 1957, as a democratically elected leader on a populist platform. He had previously served as Minister of Health. He led a campaign against the widespread eye disease of yaws. After an attempted coup against him in 1958, Duvalier rewrote the Haitian constitution, making himself a ‘President for Life’. Believing the Army was planning to overthrow him (as they had previous leaders), he disbanded all law enforcement agencies in Haiti, including the army. He executed all high-ranking Generals. To keep law enforcement completely loyal to his own ruling family, he created the Tonton Macoutes, who were granted automatic amnesty through his powers for any crime they committed.

At last, a plan that comes together.


29 posted on 06/11/2009 3:18:37 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Unfrigginbelievable — but I believe you!!


30 posted on 06/11/2009 3:19:26 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: truthnomatterwhat
Told you that King Obama will be our Communists leader for life.
31 posted on 06/11/2009 3:23:23 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: clee1
It will have to be ratified by the States.

That might be your dream world but think again. Constitution is done. No one to enforce it.

32 posted on 06/11/2009 3:26:14 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: weps4ret

Actually, amendments have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.


33 posted on 06/11/2009 3:29:30 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: truthnomatterwhat

The “dictator for life” initiative


34 posted on 06/11/2009 3:29:41 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... the Anti-Reagan)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Could backfire on them!


35 posted on 06/11/2009 3:30:03 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

This comes up nearly every new administration and never gets anywhere.


36 posted on 06/11/2009 3:31:15 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: clee1

maybe he’ll appoint a STATES CZAR...anything is possible with 0


37 posted on 06/11/2009 3:34:47 PM PDT by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: JoeA
Why don’t we make this deal: we’ll vote for an amendment for unlimited presidential terms, if they’ll vote for an amendment that presidential candidates have to show a VALID birth certificate?

EXCELLENT!!!

38 posted on 06/11/2009 3:34:56 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 143 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: homegroan
Knew this was coming-it will be slipped into some bill in the middle of the night on a Friday-or holiday weekend.

The constitution would have to be suspended for this to happen.

Then there would be war.

39 posted on 06/11/2009 3:39:34 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: clamper1797

“The “dictator for life” initiative”

The “Idi Amin Dada” amendment. And if anyone dares challenge it, he will be eaten.


40 posted on 06/11/2009 3:39:57 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't blame Bush anymore)
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To: Logical me

Look at a map of the United States, and look at not the states, but the individual counties of the entire country, marked with either “red” (conservative) or “blue” (liberal) in their voting patterns.

Two highly divergent countries emerge, the nearly contiguous “red” country, which has far more land area, and is representated at least in part in nearly every state, and a badly fragmented “blue” country, which is very spotty and largely concentrated on the East Coast, the West Coast, and isolated pockets around the Great Lakes and in larger population centers sprinkled across the heartland.

Declare these as two separate nations, and let them form their own governments, one of which is willing to hold to the original wording of the Declaration of Independence and most (not all) of the wording of the US Constitution as amended. The other country may set up whatever the hell kind of third-world strongman mob rule they want, but just stay out of our hair and inside their enclaves.

Then enforce that.


41 posted on 06/11/2009 3:45:07 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
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To: clee1
It will have to be ratified by the States. NOT going to happen.

The RINO'S and RATS do not understand or care about the constitution.

42 posted on 06/11/2009 3:47:39 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: JoeA

One day seveal years ago I walked past the office of a young dolly we had recently hired. She was frowning over the road atlas on her desk. Never one to miss a chance to talk with her, I asked what the problem was.

She explained she and her fiance wanted to go skiing but she couldn’t find New England. She thought it was a state...


43 posted on 06/11/2009 3:54:16 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: truthnomatterwhat

Another red herring


44 posted on 06/11/2009 4:02:23 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder

bttt


45 posted on 06/11/2009 4:02:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: truthnomatterwhat
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/serrano/index?tab=articles
46 posted on 06/11/2009 4:05:08 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: K-oneTexas

I agree. No politician should serve more than 2 terms.


47 posted on 06/11/2009 4:06:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

Additional terms in a Federal penitentiary, beyond the customary two, however, may be mandatory....


48 posted on 06/11/2009 4:14:11 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
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To: ChuxsterS

Even better! Thanks for that.

Gunner


49 posted on 06/11/2009 4:29:36 PM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: truthnomatterwhat; All
Natural Born Citizen Act
SB. 2128 introduced February 25th 004.

http://forums.adoption.com/russia-adoption/175446-natural-born-citizen-act-sb-2128-a.html#post620043

The above amendment was introduced before Obama.
An unconstitutional Quarter RAT SNEAK.

50 posted on 06/11/2009 4:31:02 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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