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Sarah Palin Is The Future Of The GOP
Gather.com ^ | June 15, 2009 03:27 PM EDT

Posted on 06/16/2009 11:51:08 AM PDT by lewisglad

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To: lewisglad

What about Republicans, the good ole’ boys club, they are scared of her big time. Republicans aren’t as savage as the loons....if those republicans know what’s good for them they will support Sarah Palin in every way possible.


151 posted on 06/16/2009 5:11:17 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: dsc

Sorry, one speech does not do it for me.

Reagan had almost 2 decades of speeches and used it to develop his platform.

What ideas does Governor Palin bring that will use conservative principles and are 21st century solutions for America?


152 posted on 06/16/2009 5:16:06 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Melas; rwfromkansas
Not to get sidetracked, but given your high esteem of journalists, what do you think of Palin having a journalism degree? Positive, negative, neutral, anything?
Basically I think it irrelevant, at most - just as race is irrelevant except to note that it takes more character for a black to be a Republican, because all the peer pressure against it. I would think that anyone who went into journalism with idealistic stars in their eyes and taking all the claptrap seriously would either become cynical Democrats or really idealistic Republicans.

Which might be a little scary, only because George W. Bush is idealistic to a fault. A really serious fault.


153 posted on 06/16/2009 5:17:24 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: truthluva

I am with you there

I am just not ready to give anyone the “mantle” so to speak yet. We have plenty of time before the election to truly vett people

In 1998 I thought George W was amazing. So you see why I want to be careful this time


154 posted on 06/16/2009 5:18:23 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Robbin

I’m neither a Romney nor a Huckabee fan, and Palin certainly has plenty of proving to do for me. At least the first two went through the crucible of the 2007-2008 primaries and are still standing. How many debates did Palin win? What did she do to distinguish herself other than being chosen as McCain’s running mate and therefore having the opportunity to look good in comparison to him?

Sorry, I need to see a whole lot more out of her before I consider joining the ranks of the Palin-bots, and, frankly, what I’ve seen so far hasn’t been terribly impressive.


155 posted on 06/16/2009 5:21:24 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: donna

“all of us, who consider ourselves progressive, yet at the same time we can be conservative”

Is this the best you got? If you are going to label her as a political progressive, you better have something relevant.

I certainly would agree with the context of her speech that she is “progressive” in the societal sense of not being representative of a “traditional” female role, wouldn’t you?

I think your point is ridiculous and unfounded.


156 posted on 06/16/2009 5:23:10 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: warchild9

“To put it politely, Palin has no intellectual accomplishments.”

Oh, you mean she didn’t go to law school, right?


157 posted on 06/16/2009 5:27:24 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Where right the horde are out tonite and Donna sounds like Achance from Redstate. Mobys all of them. Lets see any GOPers draw 20,000 in Auburn NY. The things I know about Gov. Palin is she is uncorruptibles, common sense smart and scare the living Sh!t out of the Rats. She just slice n dice Letterman before he knew what happened. I trust Gov. Palin to make the right decision for America and always put us first. Long live the barbarians


158 posted on 06/16/2009 5:37:10 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Kroft to Obama: Are you Punch-Drunk.)
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To: Westbrook
And it is no coincidence that these Fabian Socialists, calling themselves "Progressives", rely on Darwin to justify Marx.

Interesting observation.

159 posted on 06/16/2009 5:37:23 PM PDT by GBA
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To: MadIsh32

“Sorry, one speech does not do it for me.”

One speech should be enough to allow you to tell whether a person is of spectacularly bad character (i.e. the Klintstones, Barry Soweto) or brilliantly good character (Reagan, Palin).

“What ideas does Governor Palin bring that will use conservative principles and are 21st century solutions for America?”

Hype. Human nature hasn’t changed one jot or tittle during all of history. 21st century solutions are the same as 6,000 B.C. solutions.


160 posted on 06/16/2009 5:39:40 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: MadIsh32
I, on the other hand, like those who come from the privatr sector, serve in office, and then return to the private sector instead of spending their entire carreer sucking at the public tit as a professional politician.

Inevitably they become corrupted old-boy-network scumbags.

Has Sanford ever bucked his own party? Put members of his own party in jail for corruption? Stood up to and overcome the cronyism between members of his own party and Big Oil? Because if he hasn't, he can't even carry Palin's water.

Palin has done all of the above and tons more. The last thing we need is just another entrenched GOP party hack.

;-/

161 posted on 06/16/2009 6:04:38 PM PDT by Gargantua ("If not us, when? If not now, ...where....?")
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To: RFEngineer

No, I mean she couldn’t name anything she’s read in the past year, nor could she name a single Supreme Court decision.

At all.

She went to college. I don’t know what she took away from the process. It obviously wasn’t knowledge.

And let’s note I don’t dislike the woman, and think she has potential—she’s just not ready for the Big Leagues yet.


162 posted on 06/16/2009 6:08:34 PM PDT by warchild9 (Starve the Beast: don't buy it if you don't need it)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Out here in the real world, people are still rejecting McCain as W lite. And W is looked down upon...and that’s putting it mildly. W’s administration was a catastrophe for the Republican Party.

I DO NOT DISLIKE Palin. I just don’t think she’s ready for the Big Time, yet. She needs experience handling the pressure of a major campaign.


163 posted on 06/16/2009 6:10:40 PM PDT by warchild9 (Starve the Beast: don't buy it if you don't need it)
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To: tpanther

College has nothing to do with it. What counts is breadth of experience.

For instance, W was born into a blueblood Connecticut family, and never held a real job in his life (did you know he got his first driver’s license in his twenties because he always had a “driver?”) He has no idea of what goes on in the real world, and he comes across as a dumb**s because YOU would have degrees from Yale and Harvard too if your daddy and his powerful friends picked you out for the White House when you were five years old.

Reagan, on the other hand, had all kinds of real world experience, had jobs and maintained a real household. Also, he went to a small, but good-quality college and was a trained economist. Most people don’t know what last about him.

I have five college degrees (and I could be ordained as a UMC minister today), all paid for by working—including five years as a roofer when I was a young man. I’ve been married for over twenty years, and paid for my own home. Does that make me wise? Blue-collar “expertise” means nothing, by itself. That’s my point.


164 posted on 06/16/2009 6:27:21 PM PDT by warchild9 (Starve the Beast: don't buy it if you don't need it)
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To: warchild9

165 posted on 06/16/2009 6:42:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

my point, in the long run.

you have made it.


166 posted on 06/16/2009 6:49:32 PM PDT by warchild9 (Starve the Beast: don't buy it if you don't need it)
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To: warchild9

Great point. I too worked for my (3) college degrees part time over 20+ years while I was in the Air Force.

On the other hand, Bush DID go to Harvard AND Yale and meanwhile people like Martin Sheen were bashing him and calling him stupid and when you look into Sheen’s education...well there wasn’t any to speak of...dropped out of H.S. IIRC.

Education doesn’t always equate with intelligence. And frankly, I’ll take my education over 3 continents and as many decades to Yale any day!


167 posted on 06/16/2009 6:50:00 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Props to your military service, sir. My daddy was career Marine Corps.

I was turned down because of a minor heart condition. If I had made it into the Navy, how life would have turned out different for me!


168 posted on 06/16/2009 6:54:28 PM PDT by warchild9 (Starve the Beast: don't buy it if you don't need it)
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To: MaggieCarta; donna
[donna] Palin is a Feminist and a self-proclaimed progressive.

Well, there are feminists and there are feminists. Is she a feminist like the Wyoming women who got the vote in the 19th century, or is she a sapphic, man-hating gender-fem, a "Feminazi"? </Rush>

Too, there were "progressives" in the GOP back in 1904: they supported Theodore Roosevelt for re-election. Four years later, they bolted the Party and went Bull Moose.

The "progressive" tag was picked up lying in the street by Stalinists in the 1940's, and it has meant sub-rosa, crypto-Stalinist hardcore types ever since then -- the people who nominated George McGovern and Barack Obama, f'rinstance. (And McGovern himself was a delegate to the "Progressive" convention in 1948 that nominated Henry Wallace, Stalin's man, for President. So what did that make McGovern?)

So is Palin a "progressive" in that sense? I seriously doubt it!

169 posted on 06/16/2009 7:06:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: SoCalPol

Well said Post #29!


170 posted on 06/16/2009 7:08:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: warchild9

Thanks, and thanks to your dad!


171 posted on 06/16/2009 7:09:02 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: warchild9
I DO NOT DISLIKE Palin. I just don’t think she’s ready for the Big Time, yet. She needs experience handling the pressure of a major campaign.

Yeah, she hasn't done that yet. Nor looked into the cobra's eye while taking Katie Couric's questions.

Ahem.

172 posted on 06/16/2009 7:12:01 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Melas
Problem is that Sarah isn’t as popular on the right as some might think.

Large enthusiastic crowds during and after the campaign says otherwise.

I’m certainly not voting for her. We can do better, much, much, much better.

That's your right and I respect that. However, you should keep in mind that there is virtually no other elected Republican right now calling Obama out on his policies and galvanizing the conservative base, and other than Palin or Sanford, there really isn't a strong conservative GOP Governor that can run in 2012 and capture the conservative vote. The rest are all RINOs, and I'd include Barbour with Palin and Sanford but he's too much of an insider and isn't telegenic to be POTUS. No conservative is going to nominate another Senator or Congressman.

173 posted on 06/16/2009 7:15:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: newguy357
but Palin still has proving to do.

She's held elective office since 1992. That's far more experience than the Kenyan.

What does she need to prove?

174 posted on 06/16/2009 7:18:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: MadIsh32
Governor Palin needs to do quite a bit for me to prove she is ready for prime time and can handle the media and run a well organized operation to actually win an election.

She was restricted by McCain's handlers. Now that she's her own person, she has and will continue to do much better.

Its been one side show after the other with her since she was announced as VP candidate

All orchestrated by the leftist media and the tabloids. Quit carrying water.

175 posted on 06/16/2009 7:21:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Gargantua

Sanford is a self made millionaire and was in the private sector for quite a while. And as much as I despise UVA (being a Hokie and all) he did graduate from UVA near the top of his class

He bucked the party on Capitol Hill quite a bit in Congress and has constantly been a thorn in the side of the Republican led legislature in SC

He was one of the few from the class of 1994 to actually honor his term limits commitment

Saying Sanford is another entrenched party hack is ridiculous. In fact, he is the exact type of conservative we need today


176 posted on 06/16/2009 7:24:15 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: reaganaut1

Yeah...she’s NOT as smart as Obama....that’s for sure!!!! BBAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH


177 posted on 06/16/2009 7:27:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (For lease)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Its not about the Kenyan to me

Its about her

Does she have a real platform?

New ideas? Solutions using conservative principles for 21st century problems

What people don’t seem to see what I am getting at is Reagan had a real intellectual framework for his agenda, which he espoused from 1964 until he became POTUS

Honestly, I just haven’t seen enough of Palin yet to say she is ready to become President. I won’t make the same mistake again that I made in 1999 with George W (who by all accounts, should have been a far better President with his experience as governor of a large state)


178 posted on 06/16/2009 7:28:02 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What about Fred Thompson?

Does he need to run for Goobernor of Tennessee? Senator again?

179 posted on 06/16/2009 7:32:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: warchild9

Does Obama have any “intellectual accomplishments?” Just wondering....


180 posted on 06/16/2009 7:34:34 PM PDT by goodnesswins (For lease)
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To: MadIsh32
Its not about the Kenyan to me

Oh but it is. No Republican is going to win the WH if they don't attack Obama's policies. Perhaps you've seen the news of independents and traditional Dems balking at Obama's policies? So far, Palin is the only Republican going after him.

Its about her

What about her? Like I said, she has held elective office since 1992. And since Bush and Romney pretty much killed the tradition that Governors have to serve two terms before making the leap to POTUS, then that qualifies her to as well.

Does she have a real platform?

Just plain old-fashioned, hot dogs and apple pie, your grandmother's wisdom, common-sense American conservatism. If you're looking for bullet points and attention to detail, then Mitt's your guy.

New ideas? Solutions using conservative principles for 21st century problems

Uh, she just signed a Natural Gas deal and denounced the bailouts. That 21st Century enough for you?

What people don’t seem to see what I am getting at is Reagan had a real intellectual framework for his agenda, which he espoused from 1964 until he became POTUS

Same for Palin since 1992

Honestly, I just haven’t seen enough of Palin yet to say she is ready to become President. I won’t make the same mistake again that I made in 1999 with George W (who by all accounts, should have been a far better President with his experience as governor of a large state)

First of all, Alaska's Governor is far more powerful and influential than Texas' Governor. The Governor of Texas is very weak. You say you haven't seen enough of Palin but you're just self-doubting yourself in that she doesn't stand a chance and think she should be written-off.

181 posted on 06/16/2009 7:38:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: lentulusgracchus; steve-b; McGruff; Virginia Ridgerunner; SoCalPol; RFEngineer; MaggieCarta; ...

Some information on the “Progressive Republicans” movement:

Excerpt:
Open Letter to My Fellow Republicans…

We, the Undersigned, as long-time, loyal Republicans, supporters of the Party’s candidates and its core values of smaller, more efficient government, individual liberty and personal freedom condemn in the strongest possible fashion the circumstances and actions of so-called “conservatives” who have driven Senator Arlen Specter and many of our best and brightest from our Party. We also call on every member of the Party to take action to bring our Party back from the brink of irrelevancy.

We call for the RNC leadership to take this opportunity to begin an honest, frank, open and, most importantly inclusive “soul-searching” exercise, to determine what has been driving individuals out of the Party and to create a comprehensive strategy to reverse this trend.
(snip)
Signed,
Travis G. Johnson (Reston,VA - Founder, Progressive Republicans)
(snip)
http://progressiverepublican.info/category/columns/

“Progressive Republicans” also support: amnesty, government funded birth control. Jack Kemp was interested in Progressive Republicans.


182 posted on 06/16/2009 7:45:23 PM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Facts are silly things, aren’t they!


183 posted on 06/16/2009 7:49:11 PM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: MadIsh32

self made. ha
Sanford’s father, a billionaire. Sanford grew up on a 30 acre plantation and had the benefirs of wealth to be set up


184 posted on 06/16/2009 7:50:14 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Melas
There is some truth in that. As we've seen with the left, they measure intelligence by the college/degree achieved. How many times did we hear them make fun of Palin's degree from an Idaho college?

A college degree is no longer an indicator of future success either. As I've always said, all the book learning in the world doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't have common sense. That pretty much wipes out the leftist intelligentsia, and some of the elitist snobs in the GOP as well.

185 posted on 06/16/2009 7:53:54 PM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You can tell many of these people don’t read the official Governor of Alaska site daily to see the issues, agenda,
what Gov. Palin is accomplishing.
Far more than most Govs.

There are tens of dozens of other sites daily who go
into the accomplishments, economy, energy, security, etc.

Some folks would rather read what the Left Wing and other
malcontents are bashing out as it fits their agenda.


186 posted on 06/16/2009 7:57:47 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ok, here’s my deal, and it’s bound to make some FReepers angry. I don’t want my candidate to run against Obama. I want my candidate to run for something. Rather than belittling Obama’s economic plan, I want to see a candidate propose a better one. The same for every other issue. I could care less what you’re against, I want to know what you are actually for.

That’s been a huge problem with the conservative movement in general, and it’s gotten much, much worse since 2004. Way too many so-called conservatives don’t stand for anything other than they don’t like liberals. In essence, they let liberals define who and what they are. Not only isn’t it productive, but it’s caused some reactionary types to get caught with their pants down when the broken clock moment comes and a liberal is right about something.


187 posted on 06/16/2009 8:00:39 PM PDT by Melas
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To: warchild9

Please go check out the Media Malpractice DVD http://www.howobamagotelected.com when you actually see the parts they cut out from Couric’s interview you see that she did in fact answer the court cases (Couric took them off the table Exxon-Valdez & Roe v. Wade) as well as other things. I’m not saying she’s perfect because nobody is and she def. has plenty of time to brush up and it appears she has been w/ her recent interview with Lauer and Blitzer - she is doing live ones now too - so that’s a big difference/deal.

She has plenty of time to grow and learn if she wants to (I think she is) and speaking and communicating is easier to learn and practice than having charisma and being principled.

I believe in an individual’s character more than their college degree. I, myself, am white collar and have no problem with that - but I’ve also been incredibly humbled due to other circumstances which is why principles and morals mean much more...

Take care FRiend :)


188 posted on 06/16/2009 8:01:44 PM PDT by Lilpug15 (The Forgotten Man: He works, he votes and he generally prays - but He Always Pays": Sumner)
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To: Melas
I don’t want my candidate to run against Obama.

Sorry, but you have to attack Obama's policies and point out how destructive they are. If Palin runs, she is not necessarily running against Obama. She also stands for conservatism: Free markets, no corporate and government collusion, strong defense, pro-life, pro-gun, states' rights.

Again, if you're looking for a Republican who is going to give you a laundry list of proposals and bullet points of what the government can do for you, then you might as well say hello to a 2nd Obama term. You don't understand that people are tired of Washington and want to be left alone. Palin will talk about the need to reduce government and everything else will work itself out. She doesn't need proposals or a big platform of promises.

189 posted on 06/16/2009 8:17:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Great List.

I’m really surprised that this thread is still going. Whether these are astroturfers or just sincere Republicans, I would like to offer a handful of anecdotes from Texas:

I was a reluctant McCain supporter until Palin entered the race. The same story was repeated throughout my circle of friends, here on FR and many other places I visit.

My 49 year old mother of 2 apolitical sister, donated and volunteered after listening to Sarah speak. This is the first election to my recollection where she really got involved outside of voting.

My college roommate’s wife ran as a sacrificial lamb in very blue Travis County (Austin). She lost since Austin is 2 to 1 liberals, but her support and interest skyrocketed after Palin was added to the ticket.

As a commentator wrote, Sarah has IT. She connects with the grassroots unlike anyone since Reagan. She is charismatic, sincere and more conservative than anything we have seen in years.

She may not run or may not get the nomination, but she is definitely our best hope as of this moment.

And for those suggesting she is not intelligent, please remove those freaking elitist glasses. I’ve seen all the ivy league pinheads in Washington I care to see in this lifetime. And if...uh...well...uh...hope....uh....change is considered intelligence, I’m glad Sarah doesn’t have any.


190 posted on 06/16/2009 8:18:14 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: lentulusgracchus; donna
"Well, there are feminists and there are feminists. Is she a feminist like the Wyoming women who got the vote in the 19th century, or is she a sapphic, man-hating gender-fem, a "Feminazi"? "

Susan B. Anthony and her friends hated men, hated marriage, and were followers of Charles Fourier. They were dishonest and only sought to disrupt causes that they claimed to support. They described themselves as being progressive. The word was also used to describe the Quakers she came from.


191 posted on 06/16/2009 8:18:24 PM PDT by familyop (Randian "objectivism:" it's all about me, me,...)
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To: donna

Asked who you would support for President, and you can’t give one single name? Weren’t you one of those people who favored Obama over McCain in the last election?


192 posted on 06/16/2009 8:19:40 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

Who’s running?


193 posted on 06/16/2009 8:24:42 PM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: donna

The guy you favored the last time (Obama) and somebody from the GOP. Who would you support for the GOP candidate?


194 posted on 06/16/2009 8:31:21 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

Do you think attacking me will change the facts about Sarah Palin?

I’ll say this, we need someone with military experience because Obama is going to destroy the military.


195 posted on 06/16/2009 8:40:34 PM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: donna
“Progressive Republicans” also support: amnesty, government funded birth control. Jack Kemp was interested in Progressive Republicans.

Never heard of these guys. Sounds like a Wednesday afternoon group of Beltway bozos. Or Loggies. Are they Loggies? Republican Unity Coalition refugees?

And you say Sarah Palin is one of them? Can you demonstrate that?

196 posted on 06/16/2009 8:43:35 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: donna

May 04, 2009
Rush Limbaugh defended Palin and heralded her as the “most prominent and articulate voice” for conservatism.

AS Michael Reagan said re convention night:

Wednesday night I watched the Republican National Convention on television and there, before my very eyes, I saw my Dad reborn; only this time he’s a she.

In one blockbuster of a speech, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin resurrected my Dad’s indomitable spirit


197 posted on 06/16/2009 8:49:10 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: donna; death2tyrants
Do you think attacking me will change the facts about Sarah Palin?

Stop crayfishing and answer his question.

198 posted on 06/16/2009 8:49:22 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Biggirl; MadIsh32
She shows more common sense every day of the week than the current guy in charge... compare her new AG pick to Holder... her pick is brilliant

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1910

and did you read this article today?

http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/936617849.shtml

The tax system she implemented after being elected governor and was criticized for here and other places last year is actually working very well and everyone is happy with it..

199 posted on 06/16/2009 8:53:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: reaganaut1

Then you are not paying close attention to her accomplishments up in Alaska — doing her job.


200 posted on 06/16/2009 8:54:20 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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