Skip to comments.Apologies for the past are due Chinese descendants
Posted on 06/17/2009 6:31:42 PM PDT by artichokegrower
Assemblyman Paul Fong, D-Mountain View, wants us to remember that when the Statue of Liberty was unveiled in New York Harbor in 1886, welcoming immigrants from around the world to America, there should have been a sign posted in front that said: "Everyone except Chinese."
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They got their “sorry” in WWII and repaid our kindness and sacrifice with communism.
Apologies for what?? For how their own country treated them?? The US has every right to make its own immigration policies and no reason to apologize for them
Sh!t happens, and it has throughout the histor of the world.
Didn’t much care for Irish either. We got over it.
Get in line, Fong.
My Italian grandparents were not treated particularly well upon their arrival either.
They chose to simply shut up, learn the English language and become Americans.
If we must start getting technical, the Chinese have 4000 years of history to apologize for - think of all the people they’ve pissed off during that time!
I live in a world of emotional cripples.
Well, I want an apology from the Celts for the way they treated my Pictish ancestors.
Sorry FOR WHAT?
Japanese forces ran rampant in China for over 15 years before their loss to the USA had the effect of EJECTING them. Had US forces not done what they did, Manchuria would still be JAPAN, as would be Taiwan.
The Chinese prevailed in WW2 because ***AMERICA ENABLED IT****
He owes us a thank you.
Xie xie Mr Fong. Now STFU and get over it. Either that, or go back to China and fix the plethora of problems there so that you don’t have to endure American history.
uh. oh. How much $ ?
Thanks to Barry, the age of apologism (another form of historical revisionism and political correctness) has not only been ushered in but has become the accepted norm.
Excuse me, I need to go outside and barf.
Send this guy the old “Irish need not apply” posters.
I want an apology from the Chinese for how the Mongols treated my Ukrainian ancestors.
I want an apology for MSG.
This is ridiculous....it is not part of Chinese culture to see ourselves as victims, but conquerers...chee
Move back to ******* China if you think this country owes you an apology. When will China apologise for slaugtering what 50 million or more of its own countrymen during Mao’s reign???? Where is the apology for Chinese men and arms killing tens of thousands of US soldiers and sailors during the Korean and Vietnam war. STFU you loser.
actually, that would have been ok, the chinese were totally excluded from coming by law. they did not get the chance to be mistreated like your grandparents.
Japan invaded china. After Pearl, the US decided it would be helpful to both sides if they fought the common enemy, Japan. Before Pearl, the US did nothing to stop the Japanese attacks on China.
Perhaps you could elucidate the kindness the US supplied to China that was not self interest ?
Dumber than a box of rocks ain’t ya boy?
Beyond that specific example, the larger point is that there are numerous instances throughout history where one group of people has mistreated another.
The Chinese are as guilty as anyone.
I was in the 3rd grade and standing in the lunch line when a classmate, his name was Ron Spinner, borrowed 4 cents from me so that he could buy a small carton of milk. He promised to pay me back the next week.
What I didn’t realize at the time is that we had only 4 more days of school before summer break.
Ron Spinner, a thief, never paid me for that 4 cent loan and if I were to see him today, I would not accept an apology. I would want my 4 cents, interest for over 50 years, and then I would kick his butt all over the schoolyard.. er .. I mean, parking lot.
My point is.... nothing, but don’t ever try to screw me out of so much as a penny. ;>)
As a NATIVE American, this entire subject is overly ironic.
I just love your use of standard american english.
And you need to study WWII a lot better before using your keyboard.
Yes.I can understand how you might feel that way..
I think we should apologize the day China decides to invite tens of millions of illiterate and non-ethnic Chinese foreigners to settle there.
Does anyone have that poster of the soldier with the big cup of coffee?
And what's wrong with that? It's up to a country's citizens to decide who they want or do not want in it. If they can't decide even that, then in what sense is a country theirs? You don't see me giving China a hard time about not accepting tens of millions of African immigrants.
Ok, so you admit that the USA decided they do not want chinese, they don't like chinese and before 1960, no way in hell were they going to let chinese in (except for brides US GI's wanted to bring home as wives).
Look up Claire Lee Chennault and get back to us.
Is there anything wrong with that? Have Chinese ever wanted Africans? Will China ever admit tens of millions of Africans? By your non-answer, you've admitted that the Chinese have never wanted Africans and probably will never want them by the tens of millions.
Perhaps you could elucidate the kindness the China supplied to the U.S. that was not self-interest.
My grandparents didn't get to the United States until well until the 20th century. Do I still have to apologize?
Chinese-Americans should get their satisfaction by slowly taking control of all the high paying jobs. Wait, never mind. LOL.
“Before Pearl, the US did nothing to stop the Japanese attacks on China.”
Rubbish. Perhaps you should read more about US FedGov and civilian reactions to events like the Mukden Incident (1931, well before Pearl) and the Nanking Massacre before you chastise others for their ignorance. As every schoolboy should know, official (and some unnoficial) US military, financial, and diplomatic support to the Chinese/KMT during the so-called Showa War was the major factor that contributed to the Imperial Japanese attack at Pearl.
>>> Perhaps you could elucidate the kindness the US supplied to China that was not self interest ? <<<
Straw man. Perhaps you can explain how self-interest AND kindness/compassion cannot be attributed to the US and other countries at the time. The presence of one does not exclude the other.
You should study the history of the war during the 30s in Asia....
o.k. o.k. so solly. Now get your ass back to the wok.
Here is the deal, heads I win, tails you lose.
heads: the US aids China against Japan before Pearl.
That would mean Japan may have had a good excuse to attack Pearl and all the US indignation is misplaced.
tails: the US does not aid China until after Pearl.
That would mean the US had nothing but self interest in helping china beat japan.
You won’t win the argument.
The white people in the US have been decent enough, but in the recent past, they have been racist bigots, but not anymore than normal and maybe less than normal.
Get over it, it’s a fact.
What’s that they call white people in China? Oh, it oozes kindness to foreigners. Occidentals. Gweilo’s.
Pfft. My grandparents worked their butts of for very very little money and a shack from the coal company. Cry me a river.
Free Republic is very fair. Every ethnic group and religion is open for criticism and insult. Praise too
>>> heads: the US aids China against Japan before Pearl.
That would mean Japan may have had a good excuse to attack Pearl and all the US indignation is misplaced. <<<
It’s an indisputable historical fact that agents of the US FedGov placed restrictions on Japanese finances, gave support in men and materiel to the KMT, and supported China in many other ways BEFORE America’s entry into the Showa War. What I think of it in light of the attack at Pearl matters little. If you think there’s a case to be made for the Imperial Japanes sneak-attack, please enlighten us.
>>> tails: the US does not aid China until after Pearl. <<<
Why would any sane person who is not woefully ignorant of 20th century history make this argument? It’s simply not true. I would guess that even the most hard-core right-wing Japanese doesn’t believe this.
>>> You wont win the argument. <<<
Ummm... what argument? I don’t see an argument here — just a statement by you that you don’t want to argue.
Fair enough — but if you continue to misrepresent the historical record, I (and others) will continue to post corrections.
>>> The white people in the US have been decent enough, but in the recent past, they have been racist bigots, but not anymore than normal and maybe less than normal. <<<
“White people”? When I was in Taiwan, me and my paler US friends jokingly referred to ourselves as “honky-ren.” Don’t remember anyone there, friend or stranger, calling me a “white person.” Perhaps they aren’t as race-obsessed as you are.
As for US racism — jackass Californians and their Yellow Peril nonsense — there’s no doubt about it. However, given the long history of not just trade and diplomatic but humanitarian and missionary-based relations between the US and China, I’d claim that THAT racism was only “skin-deep.” The US willingness to support the KMT/China long before Pearl only underscores this.
Like Bruce Lee wants an apology from Jackie Chan for ever having made ‘The Tuxedo’, but he ain’t gonna get it.
Not in this life.