Skip to comments.Apologies for the past are due Chinese descendants
Posted on 06/17/2009 6:31:42 PM PDT by artichokegrower
Assemblyman Paul Fong, D-Mountain View, wants us to remember that when the Statue of Liberty was unveiled in New York Harbor in 1886, welcoming immigrants from around the world to America, there should have been a sign posted in front that said: "Everyone except Chinese."
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Chinese-Americans should get their satisfaction by slowly taking control of all the high paying jobs. Wait, never mind. LOL.
“Before Pearl, the US did nothing to stop the Japanese attacks on China.”
Rubbish. Perhaps you should read more about US FedGov and civilian reactions to events like the Mukden Incident (1931, well before Pearl) and the Nanking Massacre before you chastise others for their ignorance. As every schoolboy should know, official (and some unnoficial) US military, financial, and diplomatic support to the Chinese/KMT during the so-called Showa War was the major factor that contributed to the Imperial Japanese attack at Pearl.
>>> Perhaps you could elucidate the kindness the US supplied to China that was not self interest ? <<<
Straw man. Perhaps you can explain how self-interest AND kindness/compassion cannot be attributed to the US and other countries at the time. The presence of one does not exclude the other.
You should study the history of the war during the 30s in Asia....
o.k. o.k. so solly. Now get your ass back to the wok.
Here is the deal, heads I win, tails you lose.
heads: the US aids China against Japan before Pearl.
That would mean Japan may have had a good excuse to attack Pearl and all the US indignation is misplaced.
tails: the US does not aid China until after Pearl.
That would mean the US had nothing but self interest in helping china beat japan.
You won’t win the argument.
The white people in the US have been decent enough, but in the recent past, they have been racist bigots, but not anymore than normal and maybe less than normal.
Get over it, it’s a fact.
What’s that they call white people in China? Oh, it oozes kindness to foreigners. Occidentals. Gweilo’s.
Pfft. My grandparents worked their butts of for very very little money and a shack from the coal company. Cry me a river.
Free Republic is very fair. Every ethnic group and religion is open for criticism and insult. Praise too
>>> heads: the US aids China against Japan before Pearl.
That would mean Japan may have had a good excuse to attack Pearl and all the US indignation is misplaced. <<<
It’s an indisputable historical fact that agents of the US FedGov placed restrictions on Japanese finances, gave support in men and materiel to the KMT, and supported China in many other ways BEFORE America’s entry into the Showa War. What I think of it in light of the attack at Pearl matters little. If you think there’s a case to be made for the Imperial Japanes sneak-attack, please enlighten us.
>>> tails: the US does not aid China until after Pearl. <<<
Why would any sane person who is not woefully ignorant of 20th century history make this argument? It’s simply not true. I would guess that even the most hard-core right-wing Japanese doesn’t believe this.
>>> You wont win the argument. <<<
Ummm... what argument? I don’t see an argument here — just a statement by you that you don’t want to argue.
Fair enough — but if you continue to misrepresent the historical record, I (and others) will continue to post corrections.
>>> The white people in the US have been decent enough, but in the recent past, they have been racist bigots, but not anymore than normal and maybe less than normal. <<<
“White people”? When I was in Taiwan, me and my paler US friends jokingly referred to ourselves as “honky-ren.” Don’t remember anyone there, friend or stranger, calling me a “white person.” Perhaps they aren’t as race-obsessed as you are.
As for US racism — jackass Californians and their Yellow Peril nonsense — there’s no doubt about it. However, given the long history of not just trade and diplomatic but humanitarian and missionary-based relations between the US and China, I’d claim that THAT racism was only “skin-deep.” The US willingness to support the KMT/China long before Pearl only underscores this.
Like Bruce Lee wants an apology from Jackie Chan for ever having made ‘The Tuxedo’, but he ain’t gonna get it.
Not in this life.
Especially for the Chinese, we pulled the butts out of the fire during WWII and they repaid us by dumping Chang Kai Shek(I know the spelling is wrong but that is how it is pronounced)and installing Mao, the wonderful communist leader.
No apologies for past wrongs that were perpetrated by someone else.
>>> we pulled the butts out of the fire during WWII and they repaid us by dumping Chang Kai Shek <<<
Chiang Kai-shek. Close enough. I read somewhere that Churchill called him “Peanut” behind his back.
To be fair to “the Chinese,” Shekky and the KMT were dumped with more than a little help from the men at Foggy Bottom and their “fellow travellers.” Can you say “Owen Lattimore”?
I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n***** or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n***** from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.
From a letter to his future wife, Elizabeth (Bess) Virginia Wallace, in 1911.
I want somebody to apologize to me. Money wouldn’t hurt either.
So how do you feel about encouraging foreign immigrants anyhow? Probably opposed, I would think.
Has there ever been a nation on earth that has excelled China in racism? The Japanese were bad, but they have a shorter history.
By the way, if you folks had dealt with the Huns properly, instead of just walling them out, they wouldn’t have gone to Europe and destroyed the Roman Empire! You really owe us for that!
>>> ...if you folks had dealt with the Huns properly...”
... the Volsunga saga and the Nibelungenlied would never have been written. Thank you, Imperial China!
Oh, and the Eastern Roman Empire lasted for another ~1,000 years after Hun supremacy ended in Europe. So there! ;^)
So the Chinese gave us Wagner! (Actually I like Wagner)