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U.S. Fortifies Hawaii to Meet Threat From Korea
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 06/18/2009 6:13:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. Fortifies Hawaii to Meet Threat From Korea

By YOCHI J. DREAZEN

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. is moving ground-to-air missile defenses to Hawaii as tensions escalate between Washington and Pyongyang over North Korea's recent moves to restart its nuclear-weapon program and resume test-firing long-range missiles.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Thursday that the U.S. is concerned that Pyongyang might soon fire a missile toward Hawaii. Some senior U.S. officials expect a North Korean test by midsummer, even though most don't believe the missile would be capable of crossing the Pacific and reaching Hawaii.

Mr. Gates told reporters that the U.S. is positioning a sophisticated floating radar array in the ocean around Hawaii to track an incoming missile. The U.S. is also deploying missile-defense weapons to Hawaii that would theoretically be capable of shooting down a North Korean missile, should such an order be given, he said.

"We do have some concerns if they were to launch a missile to the west, in the direction of Hawaii," Mr. Gates said. "We are in a good position, should it become necessary, to protect American territory."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoasia; bhodod; nkorea; northkorea; tm
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1 posted on 06/18/2009 6:13:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Some senior U.S. officials expect a North Korean test by midsummer, even though most don't believe the missile would be capable of crossing the Pacific and reaching Hawaii.

People of Hawaii, do not fear. Most U.S. officials think the missile probably can't reach Hawaii. Probably.

And, if Chia Head's going to do it, now's a good time, because within the next few years we probably won't have missile defense systems capable of protecting you.

2 posted on 06/18/2009 6:19:33 PM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wonder if Hussein would consider a ballistic missile fired at Hawaii as an act of war?

Probably not.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 6:20:06 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: lonevoice

People of Hawaii, do not fear. Should the dastardly missile actually hit you, 0bama will send a strongly worded message to the UN. You have his word on that.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:20 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Hawaii he cares about.

Palin is going to be on her own if they point their ding dong at Alaska.


5 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:26 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: lonevoice

How ironic if their “native son” allowed Pearl Harbor: The Sequel.


6 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:29 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sure miss the pre-emptive Bush doctrine. I wonder if we’ll have to mirandize the Chia pet before we shoot back?


7 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:29 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) We know how to deal with Iran.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Wonder if Hussein would consider a ballistic missile fired at Hawaii as an act of war?

Of course not, especially if it is a mile short.


8 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:37 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: Sub-Driver

From the article:

“The Obama administration, meanwhile, would have to choose whether to attempt to shoot down the missile, a technically complicated procedure with no guarantee of success. An American failure would embarrass Washington, embolden Pyongyang and potentially encourage Asian allies like Japan to take stronger measures of their own against North Korea.”

So shoot several missiles! DUH !!!!
(like that will happen! We don’t want to meddle.)


9 posted on 06/18/2009 6:23:46 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: VeniVidiVici

He’s going to write a very forceful letter and have a speech in the Rose garden...

He’s reading Jimmy Carter’s memoirs for inspiration....


10 posted on 06/18/2009 6:24:05 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver
We do have some concerns if they were to launch a missile to the west, in the direction of Hawaii," Mr. Gates said.

the west ????

11 posted on 06/18/2009 6:26:42 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Obama makes us all safer"


12 posted on 06/18/2009 6:26:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sub-Driver

The superhuman Obama will deflect the missile. With “swagger”.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 6:27:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I think he would. An attack by NK would allow him to fully disengage from the middle east to fight the “real” enemy (which he will blame on Bush).

This is the moment he and his muslim brothers have been waiting for—a limited nuclear war between the infidels.


14 posted on 06/18/2009 6:27:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

What if the NORKs shoot at and miss Hawaii? Will we then give them our missile technology? This may be a foolish question, but with the present occupant of the WH anything can happen.


15 posted on 06/18/2009 6:33:31 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: jazminerose
Hawaii he cares about.
Palin is going to be on her own if they point their ding dong at Alaska.

Obama probably is hoping that Wasilla gets nuked -- Obama is probably inviting it.

16 posted on 06/18/2009 6:36:58 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: Sub-Driver

Can somebody explain WHY we’re even going to let this happen?


17 posted on 06/18/2009 6:37:22 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Sub-Driver
Some senior U.S. officials expect a North Korean test by midsummer, even though most don't believe the missile would be capable of crossing the Pacific and reaching Hawaii.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Only a dummy could assume that NK does not have the capability to even reach New York. Don't assume anything or we just might get our a@@ hurt.

18 posted on 06/18/2009 6:37:42 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Do we have any FReepers in South Korea?

I wonder what the locals there are saying?


19 posted on 06/18/2009 6:39:54 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: popdonnelly
The superhuman Obama will deflect the missile. With “swagger”. ___________________________________ Let me fix that: The superhuman subhuman Obama Marxist Odumbo will deflect the missile. With “swagger”
20 posted on 06/18/2009 6:39:54 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Here’s what I posted on Sandrat’s thread:

So let’s say this is all a ruse, on the part of Chia Head, and we’re falling for it. I predicted to some friends the other day that the Norks would send out a suspicious boat (ala Gulf of Tonkin) that will serve as a causus belli, and sure enough they did. A worst case scenario-—NK lets fly a missile, purportedly headed in the direction of Hawaii, but it explodes 100 miles up over the Sea of Japan. Ha ha, right? But this time it’s a nuke that explodes, and sends an EMP that knocks out all of the electrical grids and electronics of Japan and South Korea, not to mention our US military . Meanwhile the Norks themselves are hiding out in their tunnels, and what little gadgetry they do have exposed is vacuum tube crap from the sixties that’s largely impervious to EMP insult.

They simultaneously loft a missile in the direction of Diego Garcia, with the same result. Then they come storming out of their tunnels and march on Seoul.


21 posted on 06/18/2009 6:40:31 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: Sub-Driver

At Launch time we need to subversively transmit a Gyroscope trajectory change towards China.

End of NK problemo.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 6:40:58 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Sub-Driver

China won’t let them fire a missile at Hawaii.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 6:41:04 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t know what they are worried about. All I heard on November 5, 2008 is how much the world loved us again.

Besides if it happens it is what the voters in Hawaii voted for. !@#$%%^& them.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 6:41:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: Sub-Driver

If we still lived in America, wouldn’t we just knock the stupid thing off it’s launch pad & call it a day?


25 posted on 06/18/2009 6:41:35 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: sport
Besides if it happens it is what the voters in Hawaii voted for. !@#$%%^& them.

Yeah because we don't have ANY military establishments in Hawaii much less your regular American citizens.

Just because they voted for the Messiah doesn't mean they deserve to get nuked.
26 posted on 06/18/2009 6:43:00 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: jazminerose
If we still lived in America, wouldn’t we just knock the stupid thing off it’s launch pad & call it a day?

With what? Are we really in a position militarily right now to fight another war on the Korean peninsula?

The answer is no, we aren't. Besides an action like that would only give North Korea more attention (like it wants) than it deserves.
27 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:05 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: swmobuffalo
Can somebody explain WHY we’re even going to let this happen?

I am wondering the same thing, am also wondering why this is not the top news story on every station. Since when does the U.S allow other countries to shoot missiles at our country?
28 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:22 PM PDT by outlawjake
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To: lonevoice

Didn’t the Dems just cancel missile defense? Why isn’t an ad running in Hawaii regarding this? Doesn’t the GOP want to win in 2010?


29 posted on 06/18/2009 6:44:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: MikefromOhio

I don’t think the Hawaians are gonna get nuked. I think, just as did the last two Taepodong 2 missiles, this one’s gonna explode, but this time intentionally, and over the Sea of Japan. And it’ll have a nuke on it that goes ka-blooey.


30 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:36 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: outlawjake
Since when does the U.S allow other countries to shoot missiles at our country?

Slow down. NoKo hasn't shot anything yet.
31 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:39 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not to worry, Citizens. Your Messiah just chopped $1.4 BILLION out of our missile defense budget. Gotta buy votes with that money, even if it means leaving you defenseless against madmen with nukes and missiles.


32 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sub-Driver

I own a timeshare I have been trying to dump for about a year. I sure hope this doesn’t make it even more difficult to unload.


33 posted on 06/18/2009 6:46:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: perchprism
I don’t think the Hawaians are gonna get nuked. I think, just as did the last two Taepodong 2 missiles, this one’s gonna explode, but this time intentionally, and over the Sea of Japan. And it’ll have a nuke on it that goes ka-blooey.

It doesn't work that way. Nukes won't explode just because the delivery vehicle explodes.
34 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:24 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: perchprism
They simultaneously loft a missile in the direction of Diego Garcia, with the same result. Then they come storming out of their tunnels and march on Seoul.

Thats one way and appreciate your post. But since NK has one of the largest standing armies in the world it seems they could just take Seoul with a conventional attack if they really wanted to. Its not like they worry about things like casualties.

35 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Sub-Driver

So let’s take a poll in Hawaii and see how people feel about Ronald Reagan’s “Star Wars” program now, eh?


36 posted on 06/18/2009 6:47:49 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama says, “Go ahead. I dare you to hit that vault with my birth certificate in it! In fact, I double-dare you!!”


37 posted on 06/18/2009 6:48:43 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MikefromOhio

It works that way if it’s designed to work that way. Everyone thinks it’s headed out 4,000+ miles, but instead it is detonated over the Sea of Japan, and the resulting EMP wreaks havoc with everyone who has anything that works with electronics. That means everyone but the Norks, who don’t have any.


38 posted on 06/18/2009 6:51:49 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: jazminerose
Palin is going to be on her own if they point their ding dong at Alaska.

I suspect Kimmy knows if he tried that, Sarah would show up at his chateau with a fish knife and cut his n*ts off.

39 posted on 06/18/2009 6:53:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: VeniVidiVici
He wanted to cut some budget costs, and with Hawaii off the list, he'll get his wish.

Nothing personal in this man ~ not one thing.

40 posted on 06/18/2009 6:53:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MikefromOhio
I'm sorry, but I think they have shot quite a few missiles over the last month or so. KJI is very worried that BHO will be the one to bring down America. KJI has got to strike before health care gets approved.
41 posted on 06/18/2009 6:53:54 PM PDT by TBall
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To: alarm rider
I wonder what the locals there are saying?

"We voted for him. He won."

42 posted on 06/18/2009 6:54:21 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Sub-Driver

Cool, although I heard Obama was planning on cutting the missile defense budget and selling the hardware at a used parts auction. He’s probably invited our enemies to open the bidding.

Okay, snide comments aside, the missile defense system is derided by our enemies as an escalation, meanwhile they are busy developing and building offensive weapons. Obama thinks they’re right about our defensive platform pushing them to develop more offensive weapons capability... As if they needed an incentive to try and fulfill their dream of immolating our nation and all of our citizens in a pillar of fire.


43 posted on 06/18/2009 6:55:44 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Sub-Driver
"We do have some concerns if they were to launch a missile to the west, in the direction of Hawaii," Mr. Gates said. "We are in a good position, should it become necessary, to protect American territory."

There's a fine line between self-defense and cowering. When there's no talk of retaliation, I'd say we're cowering.

44 posted on 06/18/2009 6:56:27 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: mysterio
Although Overseas Chinese have been of great financial importance to Big China in recent decades they've also been a political thorn in the side.

The oligarchs in Big China would like nothing better than to SEND A MESSAGE to all the several hundreds of million Overseas Chinese by letting North Korea lob a missile into Hawaii, the home of the RICHEST Overseas Chinese.

A missile lobbed into Alaska will do nothing but increase the price of China's oil and coal imports.

45 posted on 06/18/2009 6:58:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver

A vaporized Pearl Harbor, will earn a strongly worded rebuke from the White House and the UN.


46 posted on 06/18/2009 6:59:31 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: perchprism
Then they come storming out of their tunnels and march on Seoul.

Just throw a few steaks on the ground and they'll be too busy fighting over them to offer any resistance.

47 posted on 06/18/2009 6:59:56 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: TBall
I'm sorry, but I think they have shot quite a few missiles over the last month or so. KJI is very worried that BHO will be the one to bring down America. KJI has got to strike before health care gets approved.

I'd respond, except I don't see how the first part of the post relates to the last part of the post.
48 posted on 06/18/2009 7:00:43 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: Sub-Driver
Are they planning to "building 7" the hospital?

That would CHA with his BC problem.

49 posted on 06/18/2009 7:02:29 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P>Oh Yeah<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: lonevoice

Indeed.


50 posted on 06/18/2009 7:03:18 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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